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"the War on Poverty helped millions of Americans rise above the poverty line during his administration." Taking a look at the statistics of American poverty, this is wrong. There was a sharp decline in poverty before LBJ enacted his war on poverty. During LBJs presidency, this decline leveled out and has stayed constant since then, indicating that LBJ did not benefit the US poverty level.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4ca0:2201:1:1a66:daff:fe2c:7052 ( talk) 10:24, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
The source listed for the sentence "His patrilineal descent traces back to John Johnson, born in Dumfriesshire, Scotland in 1590." is the website Geneanet, which is a website for user-generated family trees similar to Rootsweb. This seems to be a violation of WP:NOR, so the sentence should be removed unless a better source is found. 2601:184:4080:C94:FC7E:CBBE:2EF5:AE69 ( talk) 09:28, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
Be sure to add where the ideas came from. The ideas embedded in the Great Society were ideas from President Johnson's assassinated predecessor, President Kennedy When President Johnson was sworn in on Air Force One, he vowed to continued President Kennedy's the New Frontier. The New Frontier included: Medicare, federal support for education, and wilderness protection [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maybetrywumbo ( talk • contribs) 19:45, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
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In 2001 CNN ran a special on LBJ's Silver Star, going beyond the Caro biography to include newly found sources. This is the transcript, which demonstrates that LBJ's airplane got nowhere near the target on his Silver Star mission.
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0107/06/lt.06.html
Disclosure: I helped research and wrote the original article in Naval History magazine and was among those interviewed by CNN correspondent Jamie McIntyre. This year's History Channel series on presidents during WW II mostly relied on material from the 1960s.
BTillman, 26 February 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by HB Tillman ( talk • contribs) 20:50, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
It seems to me that some explanation is in order for Johnson's 'release' from active duty in 1942. The war had quite some way to go. Not saying there wasn't justification. I just think I and readers should know what it was. Toyokuni3 ( talk) 22:32, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
A photo caption has "President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Governor James Allred of Texas, and Johnson, 1937. Johnson later used an edited version of this photo, with Allred airbrushed out, in his 1941 senatorial campaign." I'd like to sound a warning about use of airbrushing photos. They may implicitly give wrong information. Stalin had at least one case of using that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.123.45.226 ( talk) 04:12, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Lady Bird Johnson's real name was Claudia Alta Taylor Johnson and her siblings were Thomas and Antonio and her children were Lynda Bird and Luci Baines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:1700:14e:d8dc:f994:e1f5:e19e ( talk) 22:43, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
I have created the page 1948 United States Senate election in Texas. I would like to get the Johnson experts on the case to give us a play-by-play, step-by-step account of exactly what happened in the primary election and runoff election. No need for sugar coating the facts- just let us know what happened according to the sources. If anyone is interested, please start working on it. I've known about the problems in this election (and the 1942 primary election) since childhood, and I am looking forward to getting the perspective of historical scholars on this election. Thanks for any help. Geographyinitiative ( talk) 10:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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It is claimed in the 1968 section that Nixon delayed peace talks until after the election but this is not true 2A02:C7D:3240:8700:E5EF:EEE8:C9FC:5641 ( talk) 16:52, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
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In the "Early years", change "The nearby small town of Johnson City, Texas, was named after LBJ's cousin, James Polk Johnson" to "The nearby small town of Johnson City, Texas, was named after LBJ's uncle, James Polk Johnson." Until this edit, the page said "LBJ's father's cousin," which while a bit clunky, is accurate. That change removed "father's," making the sentence incorrect. 74.192.164.193 ( talk) 01:04, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Done. I put back "father's", which as you say is correct if clunky. Uncle wouldn't be correct. The name for the relationship is "first cousin once removed", but this wouldn't be helpful to most.
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Upon looking through the former Presidents, I noticed that Johnson does not have a series infobox like Nixon or Clinton do. Could someone try and create that? JohnMacTavish ( talk) 23:06, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
Hey all, I am somewhat in favor of adding the name of the person who was next in line to the presidency in a note next to the word 'None' in the LBJ infobox. I don't claim that this is a piece of information that absolutely needs to be added to the page, but I do think it would be interesting information for the readers. I did this on the Andrew Jackson, LBJ, Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford pages. Geographyinitiative ( talk) 01:39, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
What about including a note hyperlinking "none" to one of the appropriate sections in United States presidential line of succession §§ Next in line, Under the 1792 succession act, Under the 1886 succession act, and Under the 1947 succession act, e.g., list them all as (none) or else use the appropriate subsection as (none) or (none) or (none)? This way, the additional details can be added to our encyclopedia in just one place. YBG ( talk) 16:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
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The article states LBJ was formerly the 37th Vice President. It should say he was formerly the 35th Vice President as his VP status preceded his presidency. Please correct. 2600:1700:4970:7A20:B4D6:C29C:158B:9778 ( talk) 03:31, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm very surprised there is so far nothing in the article about these issues though they are no doubt mentioned in some of the sources used. Here are some reliable online sources, but only one except the online forum sort of explains why he started supporting desegregation:
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lyndon-johnson-civil-rights-racism
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/04/what-the-hells-the-presidency-for/358630/
https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-lyndon-b-johnson
https://blog.chaddickerson.com/2019/02/17/was-lbj-a-racist/
https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/reckoning-structural-racism-research-lbjs-legacy-and-urbans-next-50
perhaps some sources quoted on https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/42764/why-did-lbj-a-staunch-segregationist-champion-and-sign-the-1964-civil-rights-b -- Espoo ( talk) 00:15, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
The article says nothing about his racism. The original comment provided 7 accurate and reliable sources describing him as racist. You asked what the article says, doesn’t say and should say. To answer those questions. 1. The article says nothing of his well known and well documented racism. 2. The article doesn’t say nothing about his well known and well documented racism. 3. The article should say something about his well known and well documented question. In the paragraphs directly below his header one more should be added. The man repeatedly used the n-word. The article says nothing about his racism. The original comment provided 7 accurate and reliable sources describing him as racist. You asked what the article says, doesn’t say and should say. To answer those questions. 1. The article says nothing of his well known and well documented racism. 2. The article doesn’t say nothing about his well known and well documented racism. 3. The article should say something about his well known and well documented question. In the below his header an extra paragraph or two should be added. It should read like this or something like this: LBJ was a racist very hypocritical. See it through ( talk) 07:15, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
To me, "friendly political machines" is a weird phrase. I really do not know what it means. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C8:7B08:6A00:288F:332A:51E6:31C9 ( talk) 00:26, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Second paragraph, "increbibly" should be "incredibly"
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Reference (Death and Funeral):
[His death meant that for the first time since 1933, when Calvin Coolidge died during Herbert Hoover's final months in office, there were no living former Presidents; Johnson had been the only living ex-President since December 26, 1972, following the death of Harry S. Truman.]
This is irrelevant data based in meaningless numerology and has zero relationship to Lyndon Johnson summarily amounting to mere trivia. The number of living past presidents at any point in time, the number of days, wekks, months, years, etc. (any amount of time) since the last numberical time a quantitative event has occured has nothing to do with any particular president. One could claim that, "The number of days since any other previous president was married for 17.4 years has been X days" Trivia, of the type portrayed on TV for the masses (likely the source). Please remove the line. Thanks Folks...I don't like trivia of a numerology kind mixed in with my search for facts and figures. 47.155.200.177 ( talk) 10:29, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
In the 'Entry into Politics' section, Second paragraph, third sentence. It reads: "Kleberg had little interest in performing the day-to-day duties of a Congressman, instead of delegating them to Johnson". Should read "instead delegating them to Johnson". Take the word 'of' out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcfarlin72 ( talk • contribs) 04:35, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
An editor ( Aboudaqn) added the following section/text to the article (several times, actually), insisting it be kept in order to "be nice to researchers". Others (including Binksternet) have objected to its inclusion as presented. In the spirit of WP:BRD, the original editor should have made this Talk page entry. For whatever reason, that didn't happen, so I'm doing it for him so we can start a discussion.
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Personally, I'm leaning toward agreeing that the ref is minor and should not be included (but I don't yet feel strongly about it).
Note: Aboudaqn has added many refs citing books published by this company, so I've asked the obligatory "Do you have any connection to them?" question on his Talk page. I'll post any relevant answers here (unless he beats me to it). Thanks, everyone! — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 21:14, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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Should the image in the infobox be the official black and white portrait used in the article about the 1964 US presidential election? Geminin667 ( talk) 09:35, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
The order of the offices he held is makes no sense. It should in my opinion be structured this way President then VP then Majority and Minority Leader, majority Whip and then Senator and Congressman. UpstairsSignificance ( talk) 17:22, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
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We should put a different photo of Lyndon B. Johnson on the top of this page because we have pictures of him taken after the date of the current one.
I suggest the file I attached.
We should put Johnson in 1969 for the description. Lukasl34612 ( talk) 06:43, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
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He died in Johnson Texas in his house his wife was LBJ who died in 2007 47.138.36.205 ( talk) 23:39, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Why does it say Johnson serves as Senate Majority Leader from 1955 to 1956 and then a second time from 1957 to 1961? The Dems had the Senate from 1955 to 1961? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UpstairsSignificance ( talk • contribs) 17:26, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Why aren't his quirks on this page? 2601:1C0:6D00:8D:84F3:C4CC:DC11:31F9 ( talk) 07:49, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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OPERATION TEXAS - context of use is vey misleading. This is a VERY important event in LBJs early political career and helps make sense of his apparent liberal conversion as president.
LBJ was a real-politik Texan democrat with extraordinary internal drive. But he was also driven by a deep humanity from his early religious background. He was a mass of contradictions and you can only make sense of these by including the details of what he accomplished at every point in his career. At least give a full sentence to the big things he accomplished earlier in his career.
LBJ was the most complicated president during a very complicated time. Accurately describe his history, don't create misunderstandings simply for the sake of brevity. 155.186.210.4 ( talk) 07:58, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
I think we should replace this with something like "Some historians consider LBJ's presidency to be the peak of modern liberalism." Was LBJ's presidency really the peak of modern liberalism in the United States? What does peak mean in this context? When Liberalism's goals were most fully realized? Isn't this highly subjective and untestable? Island Pelican ( talk) 19:15, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
First of all "liberalism" in the United States carries a different meaning in American political culture. While in Europe and most of the world "liberalism" refers to small government, free markets, and governments recognizing inalienable human rights, in the United States it means government intervention in the economy and social life. Political scientists call this philosophy modern liberalism to differentiate it from classical liberalism. Johnson's presidency marked the peak of modern liberalism because most of the laws and precedents in modern liberalism were established by or during the Johnson administration. Some examples of this is Johnson signing the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 or Medicare and Medicaid that same year. Furthermore the US Supreme Court undertook several landmark cases such as Gideon v. Wrainwright which can also be classified as a liberal interpretation of the Constitution. Since Johnson left office in 1969 no president or Congress has enacted so many liberal policies during their administration, especially no Democrat. All the Democratic presidents and I think this is especially mentioned in the Clinton article start out liberal but overtime become more conservative. Johnson remained consistently liberal throughout his entire presidency. So that is why the term "peak" is used. FictiousLibrarian ( talk). 15:18, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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His electoral vote margin was solid, bolstered in part by the presence of George Wallace as a protest candidate. But Nixon only won the popular vote by 0.7%. By any logical definition this is a very narrow victory, and certainly not a landslide. 2601:4A:8204:7E60:0:0:0:DEA8 ( talk) 12:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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At the bottom of the article in the political party succession box, for the first entry with senate nominees, please change the links for the year so that they link to the specific articles for the state, as shown below.
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Learn the truth about real history. 97.120.177.122 ( talk) 21:25, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
In the second paragraph of the lede, we have this sentence:
During the convention he came into conflict with the Democratic front-runner, fellow senator John F. Kennedy.
I cannot for the life of me figure out what the purpose of this sentence is. Conflict at the convention? Over what? They were competitors for the nomination, for Pete's sake. What is more of a conflict over that? Johnson had announced his candidacy weeks earlier, they had held a private debate with party leaders, so what is this talking about? Without even a link supporting the claim to help decipher its meaning, it makes no sense, and I'm going to take it out. Un sch ool 22:31, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of LBJ's penis. Jack Upland ( talk) 17:55, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
In the "Vice-presidential nomination" section, please remove "(known as Bobby)", as "Bobby" is not used again for the remainder of the section or several sections after, while "Robert" is used about 15 times. 2001:BB6:4734:5658:19A9:2869:25BA:E844 ( talk) 15:43, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
He was said to refer to it as his Bitch Mistress. https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Lyndon_Baines_Johnson Jokem ( talk) 02:19, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
I don’t have permissions to edit it myself but at the top where it says “Lyndon Johnson May also refer to the American Football player” it leads to a nonexistent link, I was wondering if it could be changed to lead to the football players wiki, or just be removed. Thank you Jason Ingtonn ( talk) 17:51, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
This is an inaccurate birthdate. Not the 27th. It is the 26th. 2600:6C5A:4C7F:E0C7:6C4B:AD0F:7A04:296B ( talk) 05:04, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Correction in bio. 2600:6C5A:4C7F:E0C7:6C4B:AD0F:7A04:296B ( talk) 05:06, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Most people remember the day that LBJ died as the day that SCOTUS handed down the landmark ruling of Roe v. Wade. That's the only reason for the section about the impact his passing had on the news of the ruling. SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070 ( talk) 18:59, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
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It states that Johnson served as Majority Leader from 1955-1956 and again from 1957 to 1961. This isn't correct. The Democrats held the majority in the U.S. Senate from 1955 to 1961. Should also say that he served as Minority Leader only once from 1953 to 1955, not twice. UpstairsSignificance ( talk) 14:08, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Most people remember the day LBJ died as the day that SCOTUS handed down the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling, legalizing abortions. The only reason there's a section about Roe v. Wade is because the passing was big news the day of the ruling. I try to make evident that the news of the passing was big news on the day of Roe v. Wade. SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070 ( talk) 17:47, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
At over 17k words of readable prose, this article is too long to read and navigate comfortably. See WP:TOOBIG. Detailed content should be condensed or moved to subarticles. Nikkimaria ( talk) 03:25, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
I re-read the entire article and identified some areas that could be trimmed without removing essential context. For example, the Six-Day War and Israel section doesn't have any analysis of Johnson's actions at all, and can be safely removed IMO. The section about the 1960 vice-presidential nomination is largely speculation by historians and it feels like that can be moved into JFK-space, perhaps maybe into John F. Kennedy 1960 presidential campaign. And there are a lot of direct quotes in all the sections which can be paraphrased without losing any accuracy or context. Thoughts? Orange Suede Sofa ( talk) 22:12, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
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https://digitalcommons.salve.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1077&context=pell_theses
https://oxfordre.com/americanhistory/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780199329175.001.0001/acrefore-9780199329175-e-632;jsessionid=0F676B216B505B8327CB5398BC293E08 2600:8805:C980:9400:7CF6:7484:BB93:9AB9 ( talk) 15:40, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
black voters began moving to the Democratic Party, which is clearly inaccurate. Since you have familiarity with the topic, my hope is that you can adjust that with more accurate language. It doesn't have to be wild; maybe something like "black voters accelerated their shift to the Democratic Party" would suffice. Orange Suede Sofa ( talk) 07:31, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
I want to be transparent about a recent change I made to the public image and legacy sections; I removed one Kent Germany quote that was largely redundant with another historian's evaluation immediately preceding, and I adjusted the summary of Germany's assessment from "poor" to "evolving" as I believe that better matches the spirit of the quote as well as better aligning with the summary of such in the lead. Orange Suede Sofa ( talk) 21:32, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
I am trying to determine what should be in the "death place" section in the infobox. This is a relatively minor matter but it actually is something I stumbled upon a while ago and I don't think has been fully resolved. The understanding of events is that Johnson had a heart attack at his ranch on January 22, 1973, and was airlifted to San Antonio where he was pronounced DOA. Right now, the IB says that he died in Johnson City, Texas, pointing to this source, which begins: "Lyndon Baines Johnson, 36th President of the United States, died today of an apparent heart attack suffered at his ranch in Johnson City, Tex."
However, I do not think this should be the correct assessment of the information based on what we know, and the claim in that source appears to conflict with a more detailed description of the area where Johnson lived. He resided at a ranch in Texas, which is part of the Lyndon B. Johnson National Historical Park. According to the National Park Service website, the ranch itself "is located 14 miles west of Johnson City near Stonewall, Texas". The Johnson City segment of the park is a geographically distinct area which covers his boyhood home and a visitors center. The ranch where he lived is not in Johnson City and not connected to that segment of the park, but rather near Stonewall, which would indicate Gillespie County, Texas as the "place" of death, as much as it is the place of birth; the Park website says that "The LBJ Ranch was where he was born, lived, died, and was buried". The article was arranged to have Gillespie County as the birth and death place for a while (I might have done this but I can't recall).
A third option would just be to list his death place as San Antonio, since this is where he was legally pronounced dead. But that is probably a bit too legalistic.
Pinging @ Omnis Scientia as the editor who set the current configuration in the IB.-- Sunshineisles2 ( talk) 16:15, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
airlifted to San Antonio where he was pronounced DOA") indicates that he was dead before reaching San Antonio; that is what DOA literally means. There are established accounts of his Secret Service detail finding him dead in his bedroom at the ranch and I'm not aware of any convincing evidence to the contrary. Orange Suede Sofa ( talk) 02:35, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
It is believed Johnson had five heart attacks, although only three are confirmed. ( Aardi18 ( talk) 19:18, 31 October 2023 (UTC))
There's only one reason that Roe v. wade should mentioned in the section on the death and funeral: most Americans remember the day that LBJ died as the day that SCOTUS handed down the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling. January 22, 1973 is mentioned almost every year as it was also the day of the ruling and the news of LBJ's passing overshadowed the ruling. No mention of Roe v. Wade (since overturned) will be mentioned until we reach a consensus. Please mention if it should be mentioned that both the passing and ruling happened on the same day. SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070 ( talk) 11:31, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
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"the War on Poverty helped millions of Americans rise above the poverty line during his administration." Taking a look at the statistics of American poverty, this is wrong. There was a sharp decline in poverty before LBJ enacted his war on poverty. During LBJs presidency, this decline leveled out and has stayed constant since then, indicating that LBJ did not benefit the US poverty level.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4ca0:2201:1:1a66:daff:fe2c:7052 ( talk) 10:24, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
The source listed for the sentence "His patrilineal descent traces back to John Johnson, born in Dumfriesshire, Scotland in 1590." is the website Geneanet, which is a website for user-generated family trees similar to Rootsweb. This seems to be a violation of WP:NOR, so the sentence should be removed unless a better source is found. 2601:184:4080:C94:FC7E:CBBE:2EF5:AE69 ( talk) 09:28, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
Be sure to add where the ideas came from. The ideas embedded in the Great Society were ideas from President Johnson's assassinated predecessor, President Kennedy When President Johnson was sworn in on Air Force One, he vowed to continued President Kennedy's the New Frontier. The New Frontier included: Medicare, federal support for education, and wilderness protection [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maybetrywumbo ( talk • contribs) 19:45, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
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In 2001 CNN ran a special on LBJ's Silver Star, going beyond the Caro biography to include newly found sources. This is the transcript, which demonstrates that LBJ's airplane got nowhere near the target on his Silver Star mission.
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0107/06/lt.06.html
Disclosure: I helped research and wrote the original article in Naval History magazine and was among those interviewed by CNN correspondent Jamie McIntyre. This year's History Channel series on presidents during WW II mostly relied on material from the 1960s.
BTillman, 26 February 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by HB Tillman ( talk • contribs) 20:50, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
It seems to me that some explanation is in order for Johnson's 'release' from active duty in 1942. The war had quite some way to go. Not saying there wasn't justification. I just think I and readers should know what it was. Toyokuni3 ( talk) 22:32, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
A photo caption has "President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Governor James Allred of Texas, and Johnson, 1937. Johnson later used an edited version of this photo, with Allred airbrushed out, in his 1941 senatorial campaign." I'd like to sound a warning about use of airbrushing photos. They may implicitly give wrong information. Stalin had at least one case of using that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.123.45.226 ( talk) 04:12, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Lady Bird Johnson's real name was Claudia Alta Taylor Johnson and her siblings were Thomas and Antonio and her children were Lynda Bird and Luci Baines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:1700:14e:d8dc:f994:e1f5:e19e ( talk) 22:43, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
I have created the page 1948 United States Senate election in Texas. I would like to get the Johnson experts on the case to give us a play-by-play, step-by-step account of exactly what happened in the primary election and runoff election. No need for sugar coating the facts- just let us know what happened according to the sources. If anyone is interested, please start working on it. I've known about the problems in this election (and the 1942 primary election) since childhood, and I am looking forward to getting the perspective of historical scholars on this election. Thanks for any help. Geographyinitiative ( talk) 10:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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It is claimed in the 1968 section that Nixon delayed peace talks until after the election but this is not true 2A02:C7D:3240:8700:E5EF:EEE8:C9FC:5641 ( talk) 16:52, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
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In the "Early years", change "The nearby small town of Johnson City, Texas, was named after LBJ's cousin, James Polk Johnson" to "The nearby small town of Johnson City, Texas, was named after LBJ's uncle, James Polk Johnson." Until this edit, the page said "LBJ's father's cousin," which while a bit clunky, is accurate. That change removed "father's," making the sentence incorrect. 74.192.164.193 ( talk) 01:04, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Done. I put back "father's", which as you say is correct if clunky. Uncle wouldn't be correct. The name for the relationship is "first cousin once removed", but this wouldn't be helpful to most.
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Upon looking through the former Presidents, I noticed that Johnson does not have a series infobox like Nixon or Clinton do. Could someone try and create that? JohnMacTavish ( talk) 23:06, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
Hey all, I am somewhat in favor of adding the name of the person who was next in line to the presidency in a note next to the word 'None' in the LBJ infobox. I don't claim that this is a piece of information that absolutely needs to be added to the page, but I do think it would be interesting information for the readers. I did this on the Andrew Jackson, LBJ, Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford pages. Geographyinitiative ( talk) 01:39, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
What about including a note hyperlinking "none" to one of the appropriate sections in United States presidential line of succession §§ Next in line, Under the 1792 succession act, Under the 1886 succession act, and Under the 1947 succession act, e.g., list them all as (none) or else use the appropriate subsection as (none) or (none) or (none)? This way, the additional details can be added to our encyclopedia in just one place. YBG ( talk) 16:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
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The article states LBJ was formerly the 37th Vice President. It should say he was formerly the 35th Vice President as his VP status preceded his presidency. Please correct. 2600:1700:4970:7A20:B4D6:C29C:158B:9778 ( talk) 03:31, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm very surprised there is so far nothing in the article about these issues though they are no doubt mentioned in some of the sources used. Here are some reliable online sources, but only one except the online forum sort of explains why he started supporting desegregation:
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/lyndon-johnson-civil-rights-racism
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/04/what-the-hells-the-presidency-for/358630/
https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-lyndon-b-johnson
https://blog.chaddickerson.com/2019/02/17/was-lbj-a-racist/
https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/reckoning-structural-racism-research-lbjs-legacy-and-urbans-next-50
perhaps some sources quoted on https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/42764/why-did-lbj-a-staunch-segregationist-champion-and-sign-the-1964-civil-rights-b -- Espoo ( talk) 00:15, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
The article says nothing about his racism. The original comment provided 7 accurate and reliable sources describing him as racist. You asked what the article says, doesn’t say and should say. To answer those questions. 1. The article says nothing of his well known and well documented racism. 2. The article doesn’t say nothing about his well known and well documented racism. 3. The article should say something about his well known and well documented question. In the paragraphs directly below his header one more should be added. The man repeatedly used the n-word. The article says nothing about his racism. The original comment provided 7 accurate and reliable sources describing him as racist. You asked what the article says, doesn’t say and should say. To answer those questions. 1. The article says nothing of his well known and well documented racism. 2. The article doesn’t say nothing about his well known and well documented racism. 3. The article should say something about his well known and well documented question. In the below his header an extra paragraph or two should be added. It should read like this or something like this: LBJ was a racist very hypocritical. See it through ( talk) 07:15, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
To me, "friendly political machines" is a weird phrase. I really do not know what it means. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C8:7B08:6A00:288F:332A:51E6:31C9 ( talk) 00:26, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Second paragraph, "increbibly" should be "incredibly"
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Reference (Death and Funeral):
[His death meant that for the first time since 1933, when Calvin Coolidge died during Herbert Hoover's final months in office, there were no living former Presidents; Johnson had been the only living ex-President since December 26, 1972, following the death of Harry S. Truman.]
This is irrelevant data based in meaningless numerology and has zero relationship to Lyndon Johnson summarily amounting to mere trivia. The number of living past presidents at any point in time, the number of days, wekks, months, years, etc. (any amount of time) since the last numberical time a quantitative event has occured has nothing to do with any particular president. One could claim that, "The number of days since any other previous president was married for 17.4 years has been X days" Trivia, of the type portrayed on TV for the masses (likely the source). Please remove the line. Thanks Folks...I don't like trivia of a numerology kind mixed in with my search for facts and figures. 47.155.200.177 ( talk) 10:29, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
In the 'Entry into Politics' section, Second paragraph, third sentence. It reads: "Kleberg had little interest in performing the day-to-day duties of a Congressman, instead of delegating them to Johnson". Should read "instead delegating them to Johnson". Take the word 'of' out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcfarlin72 ( talk • contribs) 04:35, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
An editor ( Aboudaqn) added the following section/text to the article (several times, actually), insisting it be kept in order to "be nice to researchers". Others (including Binksternet) have objected to its inclusion as presented. In the spirit of WP:BRD, the original editor should have made this Talk page entry. For whatever reason, that didn't happen, so I'm doing it for him so we can start a discussion.
Here is the text that was inserted:
Personally, I'm leaning toward agreeing that the ref is minor and should not be included (but I don't yet feel strongly about it).
Note: Aboudaqn has added many refs citing books published by this company, so I've asked the obligatory "Do you have any connection to them?" question on his Talk page. I'll post any relevant answers here (unless he beats me to it). Thanks, everyone! — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 21:14, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Binksternet (cc: UncleBubba): Here is the work you could have done, rather than take up time and energy attacking me -- please cut-and-paste into the entry:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aboudaqn ( talk • contribs) 21:29, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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Should the image in the infobox be the official black and white portrait used in the article about the 1964 US presidential election? Geminin667 ( talk) 09:35, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
The order of the offices he held is makes no sense. It should in my opinion be structured this way President then VP then Majority and Minority Leader, majority Whip and then Senator and Congressman. UpstairsSignificance ( talk) 17:22, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
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We should put a different photo of Lyndon B. Johnson on the top of this page because we have pictures of him taken after the date of the current one.
I suggest the file I attached.
We should put Johnson in 1969 for the description. Lukasl34612 ( talk) 06:43, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
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He died in Johnson Texas in his house his wife was LBJ who died in 2007 47.138.36.205 ( talk) 23:39, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Why does it say Johnson serves as Senate Majority Leader from 1955 to 1956 and then a second time from 1957 to 1961? The Dems had the Senate from 1955 to 1961? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UpstairsSignificance ( talk • contribs) 17:26, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Why aren't his quirks on this page? 2601:1C0:6D00:8D:84F3:C4CC:DC11:31F9 ( talk) 07:49, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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OPERATION TEXAS - context of use is vey misleading. This is a VERY important event in LBJs early political career and helps make sense of his apparent liberal conversion as president.
LBJ was a real-politik Texan democrat with extraordinary internal drive. But he was also driven by a deep humanity from his early religious background. He was a mass of contradictions and you can only make sense of these by including the details of what he accomplished at every point in his career. At least give a full sentence to the big things he accomplished earlier in his career.
LBJ was the most complicated president during a very complicated time. Accurately describe his history, don't create misunderstandings simply for the sake of brevity. 155.186.210.4 ( talk) 07:58, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
I think we should replace this with something like "Some historians consider LBJ's presidency to be the peak of modern liberalism." Was LBJ's presidency really the peak of modern liberalism in the United States? What does peak mean in this context? When Liberalism's goals were most fully realized? Isn't this highly subjective and untestable? Island Pelican ( talk) 19:15, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
First of all "liberalism" in the United States carries a different meaning in American political culture. While in Europe and most of the world "liberalism" refers to small government, free markets, and governments recognizing inalienable human rights, in the United States it means government intervention in the economy and social life. Political scientists call this philosophy modern liberalism to differentiate it from classical liberalism. Johnson's presidency marked the peak of modern liberalism because most of the laws and precedents in modern liberalism were established by or during the Johnson administration. Some examples of this is Johnson signing the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 or Medicare and Medicaid that same year. Furthermore the US Supreme Court undertook several landmark cases such as Gideon v. Wrainwright which can also be classified as a liberal interpretation of the Constitution. Since Johnson left office in 1969 no president or Congress has enacted so many liberal policies during their administration, especially no Democrat. All the Democratic presidents and I think this is especially mentioned in the Clinton article start out liberal but overtime become more conservative. Johnson remained consistently liberal throughout his entire presidency. So that is why the term "peak" is used. FictiousLibrarian ( talk). 15:18, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
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His electoral vote margin was solid, bolstered in part by the presence of George Wallace as a protest candidate. But Nixon only won the popular vote by 0.7%. By any logical definition this is a very narrow victory, and certainly not a landslide. 2601:4A:8204:7E60:0:0:0:DEA8 ( talk) 12:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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At the bottom of the article in the political party succession box, for the first entry with senate nominees, please change the links for the year so that they link to the specific articles for the state, as shown below.
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Learn the truth about real history. 97.120.177.122 ( talk) 21:25, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
In the second paragraph of the lede, we have this sentence:
During the convention he came into conflict with the Democratic front-runner, fellow senator John F. Kennedy.
I cannot for the life of me figure out what the purpose of this sentence is. Conflict at the convention? Over what? They were competitors for the nomination, for Pete's sake. What is more of a conflict over that? Johnson had announced his candidacy weeks earlier, they had held a private debate with party leaders, so what is this talking about? Without even a link supporting the claim to help decipher its meaning, it makes no sense, and I'm going to take it out. Un sch ool 22:31, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of LBJ's penis. Jack Upland ( talk) 17:55, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
In the "Vice-presidential nomination" section, please remove "(known as Bobby)", as "Bobby" is not used again for the remainder of the section or several sections after, while "Robert" is used about 15 times. 2001:BB6:4734:5658:19A9:2869:25BA:E844 ( talk) 15:43, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
He was said to refer to it as his Bitch Mistress. https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Lyndon_Baines_Johnson Jokem ( talk) 02:19, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
I don’t have permissions to edit it myself but at the top where it says “Lyndon Johnson May also refer to the American Football player” it leads to a nonexistent link, I was wondering if it could be changed to lead to the football players wiki, or just be removed. Thank you Jason Ingtonn ( talk) 17:51, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
This is an inaccurate birthdate. Not the 27th. It is the 26th. 2600:6C5A:4C7F:E0C7:6C4B:AD0F:7A04:296B ( talk) 05:04, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Correction in bio. 2600:6C5A:4C7F:E0C7:6C4B:AD0F:7A04:296B ( talk) 05:06, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Most people remember the day that LBJ died as the day that SCOTUS handed down the landmark ruling of Roe v. Wade. That's the only reason for the section about the impact his passing had on the news of the ruling. SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070 ( talk) 18:59, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
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It states that Johnson served as Majority Leader from 1955-1956 and again from 1957 to 1961. This isn't correct. The Democrats held the majority in the U.S. Senate from 1955 to 1961. Should also say that he served as Minority Leader only once from 1953 to 1955, not twice. UpstairsSignificance ( talk) 14:08, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Most people remember the day LBJ died as the day that SCOTUS handed down the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling, legalizing abortions. The only reason there's a section about Roe v. Wade is because the passing was big news the day of the ruling. I try to make evident that the news of the passing was big news on the day of Roe v. Wade. SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070 ( talk) 17:47, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
At over 17k words of readable prose, this article is too long to read and navigate comfortably. See WP:TOOBIG. Detailed content should be condensed or moved to subarticles. Nikkimaria ( talk) 03:25, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
I re-read the entire article and identified some areas that could be trimmed without removing essential context. For example, the Six-Day War and Israel section doesn't have any analysis of Johnson's actions at all, and can be safely removed IMO. The section about the 1960 vice-presidential nomination is largely speculation by historians and it feels like that can be moved into JFK-space, perhaps maybe into John F. Kennedy 1960 presidential campaign. And there are a lot of direct quotes in all the sections which can be paraphrased without losing any accuracy or context. Thoughts? Orange Suede Sofa ( talk) 22:12, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
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tag in that section here. I haven't run a word count check, but that chopped off 8,557 bytes from the article.
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https://digitalcommons.salve.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1077&context=pell_theses
https://oxfordre.com/americanhistory/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780199329175.001.0001/acrefore-9780199329175-e-632;jsessionid=0F676B216B505B8327CB5398BC293E08 2600:8805:C980:9400:7CF6:7484:BB93:9AB9 ( talk) 15:40, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
black voters began moving to the Democratic Party, which is clearly inaccurate. Since you have familiarity with the topic, my hope is that you can adjust that with more accurate language. It doesn't have to be wild; maybe something like "black voters accelerated their shift to the Democratic Party" would suffice. Orange Suede Sofa ( talk) 07:31, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
I want to be transparent about a recent change I made to the public image and legacy sections; I removed one Kent Germany quote that was largely redundant with another historian's evaluation immediately preceding, and I adjusted the summary of Germany's assessment from "poor" to "evolving" as I believe that better matches the spirit of the quote as well as better aligning with the summary of such in the lead. Orange Suede Sofa ( talk) 21:32, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
I am trying to determine what should be in the "death place" section in the infobox. This is a relatively minor matter but it actually is something I stumbled upon a while ago and I don't think has been fully resolved. The understanding of events is that Johnson had a heart attack at his ranch on January 22, 1973, and was airlifted to San Antonio where he was pronounced DOA. Right now, the IB says that he died in Johnson City, Texas, pointing to this source, which begins: "Lyndon Baines Johnson, 36th President of the United States, died today of an apparent heart attack suffered at his ranch in Johnson City, Tex."
However, I do not think this should be the correct assessment of the information based on what we know, and the claim in that source appears to conflict with a more detailed description of the area where Johnson lived. He resided at a ranch in Texas, which is part of the Lyndon B. Johnson National Historical Park. According to the National Park Service website, the ranch itself "is located 14 miles west of Johnson City near Stonewall, Texas". The Johnson City segment of the park is a geographically distinct area which covers his boyhood home and a visitors center. The ranch where he lived is not in Johnson City and not connected to that segment of the park, but rather near Stonewall, which would indicate Gillespie County, Texas as the "place" of death, as much as it is the place of birth; the Park website says that "The LBJ Ranch was where he was born, lived, died, and was buried". The article was arranged to have Gillespie County as the birth and death place for a while (I might have done this but I can't recall).
A third option would just be to list his death place as San Antonio, since this is where he was legally pronounced dead. But that is probably a bit too legalistic.
Pinging @ Omnis Scientia as the editor who set the current configuration in the IB.-- Sunshineisles2 ( talk) 16:15, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
airlifted to San Antonio where he was pronounced DOA") indicates that he was dead before reaching San Antonio; that is what DOA literally means. There are established accounts of his Secret Service detail finding him dead in his bedroom at the ranch and I'm not aware of any convincing evidence to the contrary. Orange Suede Sofa ( talk) 02:35, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
It is believed Johnson had five heart attacks, although only three are confirmed. ( Aardi18 ( talk) 19:18, 31 October 2023 (UTC))
There's only one reason that Roe v. wade should mentioned in the section on the death and funeral: most Americans remember the day that LBJ died as the day that SCOTUS handed down the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling. January 22, 1973 is mentioned almost every year as it was also the day of the ruling and the news of LBJ's passing overshadowed the ruling. No mention of Roe v. Wade (since overturned) will be mentioned until we reach a consensus. Please mention if it should be mentioned that both the passing and ruling happened on the same day. SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070 ( talk) 11:31, 24 November 2023 (UTC)