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In the intro at the top of the page, it says that Visconti is best known for The Leopard and Death in Venice. What's the basis for mentioning just these two? I'm not sure how to measure the fame of films but it seems to me that Visconti is just as well known for Ossessione, Rocco and his Brothers, and Senso. Any objections if I add these? ( Simon Clarke ( talk) 04:50, 4 July 2012 (UTC))
from the article 'Notoriously gay, Visconti always preferred to have good-looking leading men, and one of his favorites was Austrian actor Helmut Berger, who played Martin in “The Damned”.'
what exactly does notoriously gay mean. the german article states that visconti never made a big deal out of his homosexuality. also berger was not just 'one of his favourites' but had a relationship with visconti. trueblood 07:01, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Robert Prummel 17:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
According to the key-novel IL SIGNORE DELLE OMBRE (The Shadows Lord) by Nantas Salvalaggio, he was notoriously bisex and possibly had a son by actress Maria Denis. He always declared that this son wasn't his, but Pietro Koch's, a famous nazi torturer. However he send a doctor for a blood examination, refused by the boy (born in 1944), who became a grey friar at 18 in a monastery in southern France. Maria Denis always declared she attended Koch just to save Visconti, then in nazi jail, which ruled because the director was released soon after. After that, Visconti broke every relation with Denis, maybe because he thought she really had a sexual relation with Koch and ignored she did for saving him. According to the same book, he had relations also with actress Clara Calamai. Valerio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.51.112.68 ( talk) 13:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I think it should be mentioned that Visconti took part in the resistence against nazi-fascism and was close to the Italian communist party. See this Italian page: http://www.luchinovisconti.net/visconti_pg/visconti_vita.htm Plch 22:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Two links were removed. WHY? Both authors are reputable authorities in their field, so I see no reason to remove these essay links.
I shall replace them, and request that the edtir who removed them justify his position HERE. Viva-Verdi 01:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Several sources , such as the Italian Wiki state that he was "Don Luchino Visconti di Modrone, Conte di Lonate Pozzolo". A count not a duke like his father. What is right?
Robert Prummel 17:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
None. Italy doesn't recognize ancient nobility titles by Costitution, only allowing the addition of lands name to the surname. So, Visconti was Mr Luchino Visconti di Modrone. Valerio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.51.112.68 ( talk) 13:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I realized you meant the "historical" title. Well, the title of Duke of Modrone was Napoleonic and followed French custom, for which cadet sons had a title lower than their parents. Luchino Visconti wasn't a direct descendant of the Dukes of Milan, in fact, but of a brother of People's Captain Matteo I, 2nd unofficial "Lord" of Milan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.51.116.250 ( talk) 15:12, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
The House of Visconti page clearly states the family line as later Dukes, as of 1813, of Vimodrone (the ancient Modrone): - Uberto il Pico (1280?–1315) Vercellino podestà of Vercelli (1317) and Novara (1318–1320). Line of the Visconti di Modrone, Marquesses (1694) and later Dukes (1813) of Vimodrone, whose members include Luchino Visconti and Eriprando Visconti. - Solidzz ( talk) 18:54, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
I will also note I found the House of Visconti page clearly indicates that Visconti of Modrone, From Uberto, brother of Matteo I, came the lateral branch of Dukes of Modrone. To this family belonged Luchino Visconti, one of the most prominent film directors of Italian neorealist cinema. Solidzz ( talk) 18:58, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
A wiki search for Visconti leads only to a disambiguation page for Giovanni Visconti, no Luchino, though he can be found by the links from his films. I'm new here and dont have time to work out how to fix this. Bruffik ( talk) 12:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I think the article would be well served if we would include some referenced info regarding how his works were received, and how he dealt with the reception.-- Abie the Fish Peddler ( talk) 19:44, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Luchino Visconti/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
:This article needs some organization (it's basically all just one big section at this point), and more information on his life, films, and views. Jun-Dai 00:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC) |
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In the intro at the top of the page, it says that Visconti is best known for The Leopard and Death in Venice. What's the basis for mentioning just these two? I'm not sure how to measure the fame of films but it seems to me that Visconti is just as well known for Ossessione, Rocco and his Brothers, and Senso. Any objections if I add these? ( Simon Clarke ( talk) 04:50, 4 July 2012 (UTC))
from the article 'Notoriously gay, Visconti always preferred to have good-looking leading men, and one of his favorites was Austrian actor Helmut Berger, who played Martin in “The Damned”.'
what exactly does notoriously gay mean. the german article states that visconti never made a big deal out of his homosexuality. also berger was not just 'one of his favourites' but had a relationship with visconti. trueblood 07:01, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Robert Prummel 17:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
According to the key-novel IL SIGNORE DELLE OMBRE (The Shadows Lord) by Nantas Salvalaggio, he was notoriously bisex and possibly had a son by actress Maria Denis. He always declared that this son wasn't his, but Pietro Koch's, a famous nazi torturer. However he send a doctor for a blood examination, refused by the boy (born in 1944), who became a grey friar at 18 in a monastery in southern France. Maria Denis always declared she attended Koch just to save Visconti, then in nazi jail, which ruled because the director was released soon after. After that, Visconti broke every relation with Denis, maybe because he thought she really had a sexual relation with Koch and ignored she did for saving him. According to the same book, he had relations also with actress Clara Calamai. Valerio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.51.112.68 ( talk) 13:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I think it should be mentioned that Visconti took part in the resistence against nazi-fascism and was close to the Italian communist party. See this Italian page: http://www.luchinovisconti.net/visconti_pg/visconti_vita.htm Plch 22:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Two links were removed. WHY? Both authors are reputable authorities in their field, so I see no reason to remove these essay links.
I shall replace them, and request that the edtir who removed them justify his position HERE. Viva-Verdi 01:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Several sources , such as the Italian Wiki state that he was "Don Luchino Visconti di Modrone, Conte di Lonate Pozzolo". A count not a duke like his father. What is right?
Robert Prummel 17:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
None. Italy doesn't recognize ancient nobility titles by Costitution, only allowing the addition of lands name to the surname. So, Visconti was Mr Luchino Visconti di Modrone. Valerio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.51.112.68 ( talk) 13:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
I realized you meant the "historical" title. Well, the title of Duke of Modrone was Napoleonic and followed French custom, for which cadet sons had a title lower than their parents. Luchino Visconti wasn't a direct descendant of the Dukes of Milan, in fact, but of a brother of People's Captain Matteo I, 2nd unofficial "Lord" of Milan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.51.116.250 ( talk) 15:12, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
The House of Visconti page clearly states the family line as later Dukes, as of 1813, of Vimodrone (the ancient Modrone): - Uberto il Pico (1280?–1315) Vercellino podestà of Vercelli (1317) and Novara (1318–1320). Line of the Visconti di Modrone, Marquesses (1694) and later Dukes (1813) of Vimodrone, whose members include Luchino Visconti and Eriprando Visconti. - Solidzz ( talk) 18:54, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
I will also note I found the House of Visconti page clearly indicates that Visconti of Modrone, From Uberto, brother of Matteo I, came the lateral branch of Dukes of Modrone. To this family belonged Luchino Visconti, one of the most prominent film directors of Italian neorealist cinema. Solidzz ( talk) 18:58, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
A wiki search for Visconti leads only to a disambiguation page for Giovanni Visconti, no Luchino, though he can be found by the links from his films. I'm new here and dont have time to work out how to fix this. Bruffik ( talk) 12:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I think the article would be well served if we would include some referenced info regarding how his works were received, and how he dealt with the reception.-- Abie the Fish Peddler ( talk) 19:44, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Luchino Visconti/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
:This article needs some organization (it's basically all just one big section at this point), and more information on his life, films, and views. Jun-Dai 00:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC) |
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