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This article should be integrated with Economic history of Japan. It is very poor, as it stands. cckkab (talk) 07:42, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Hell Yeah! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.88.104.202 (talk) 03:45, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
There's an edit from "07:13, 18 November 2009 174.48.153.228 (talk) (7,396 bytes) (undo)" that contains a great deal of sourceless , non-neutral analysis of the Lost Decade. It pretty obviously was created with an intent to compare it to the current economic recession and response in the US. I hesitate to eliminate this content, but its pretty clearly slanted, at times simply inaccurate and it doesn't meet citation standards. Does anyone want to save it? Original submitter only had an IP. PantsB (talk)
Upon further review, I removed the section. It was plagiarized from an Op Ed written by Fergus Hodgson [1] PantsB (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:23, 3 February 2010 (UTC).
The Myth of Japan's 'Lost Decades' Eamonn Fingleton presents a counterargument to the perception of Japn's so-called stagnation. I think he raises important points. Please take a look. -- Shinkansen Fan ( talk) 16:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Would it be possible to get some pictures such as charts or graphs on this topic? 129.120.177.8 ( talk) 01:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
"It also meant credit became very difficult to obtain, due to the beleaguered situation of the banks; even now the official interest rate is at 0.1%."
If credit is difficult to obtain, it should be expensive and not cheap. Please explain or source the first sentence. -- 183.174.206.242 ( talk) 14:35, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
There's talk of merging this with the other 2000s recession article, Japanese Recession. I think the two are separate, because the Lost Decade is very specific, and still referred to as a specific time period. Guroadrunner ( talk) 08:07, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
It's good to provide a well-argued alternative perspective, but I'd say the amount of space spent on his argument is quite out of proportion to its significance. Weygander ( talk) 01:57, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
I agree, the article spends too much time focusing on the counter-argument and doesn't go into details of the economic and social effects of the lost decade. Saying something like "However, there is serious dispute on whether or not such “lost decade” or decades actually took place," gives too much credence to a flawed fringe view. -- Asingh0208 ( talk) 09:52, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
...recently the decade from 2001 to 2010 is often included,[2] so that the whole period of the 1990s to the present is referred to
as the Lost Two Decades or the Lost 20 Years.
I don't understand this sentence. Does it encompass 1990-2010 or it continues in the present (1990-)? It's just not clear from the text. I suggest editing.
ShockD ( talk) 18:29, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Sudo has reviewed this Wikipedia page, and provided us with the following comments to improve its quality:
The bubble was caused by the excessive loan growth quotas dictated on the banks by Japan's central bank, the Bank of Japan, through a policy mechanism known as the "window guidance"
(suggestion) remove this sentence. (rationale) I do not think the above writing is consistent with the view widely held by policy makers and scholars. At the moment, there is no agreement both among policymakers and scholars regarding why bubble occurred. See for instance http://www.imes.boj.or.jp/research/papers/english/15-E-12.pdf
It is notable that there is a criticism that the delay in the Boj's action to curb banks' excessive lending was one of the causes of the bubble and bubble burst. I do not rule out the possibility that the central bank's action contributed to the bubble in this sense.
We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.
We believe Dr. Sudo has expertise on the topic of this article, since he has published relevant scholarly research:
ExpertIdeasBot ( talk) 15:15, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
I was told once that the Japanese phrase for this period translated in English to "A Long Walk in a Cold Hard Rain".... Has anyone heard this? Would anyone be able to provide a link to that phrase?
-- Patbahn ( talk) 16:04, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved, reflecting the predominant sentiment that the Japanese usage is primary. ( non-admin closure) NotReallyMoniak ( talk) 14:21, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Lost Decades → Lost Decade (Japan) – No indication that "Lost Decades" in the primary name. Move was started without comment or discussion. intforce ( talk) 09:50, 7 July 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 07:24, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Either the lead sentence should be reworked to incorporate "Lost Decades" (plural) in bold, or the article should be moved to "Lost Decade" (singular). Otherwise it just looks strange to have the lead not be consistent with the article title, and makes it appear as though there is an error. Pinging @ Intforce, who probably has more insight into this than I do. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 05:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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This article should be integrated with Economic history of Japan. It is very poor, as it stands. cckkab (talk) 07:42, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Hell Yeah! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.88.104.202 (talk) 03:45, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
There's an edit from "07:13, 18 November 2009 174.48.153.228 (talk) (7,396 bytes) (undo)" that contains a great deal of sourceless , non-neutral analysis of the Lost Decade. It pretty obviously was created with an intent to compare it to the current economic recession and response in the US. I hesitate to eliminate this content, but its pretty clearly slanted, at times simply inaccurate and it doesn't meet citation standards. Does anyone want to save it? Original submitter only had an IP. PantsB (talk)
Upon further review, I removed the section. It was plagiarized from an Op Ed written by Fergus Hodgson [1] PantsB (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:23, 3 February 2010 (UTC).
The Myth of Japan's 'Lost Decades' Eamonn Fingleton presents a counterargument to the perception of Japn's so-called stagnation. I think he raises important points. Please take a look. -- Shinkansen Fan ( talk) 16:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Would it be possible to get some pictures such as charts or graphs on this topic? 129.120.177.8 ( talk) 01:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
"It also meant credit became very difficult to obtain, due to the beleaguered situation of the banks; even now the official interest rate is at 0.1%."
If credit is difficult to obtain, it should be expensive and not cheap. Please explain or source the first sentence. -- 183.174.206.242 ( talk) 14:35, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
There's talk of merging this with the other 2000s recession article, Japanese Recession. I think the two are separate, because the Lost Decade is very specific, and still referred to as a specific time period. Guroadrunner ( talk) 08:07, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
It's good to provide a well-argued alternative perspective, but I'd say the amount of space spent on his argument is quite out of proportion to its significance. Weygander ( talk) 01:57, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
I agree, the article spends too much time focusing on the counter-argument and doesn't go into details of the economic and social effects of the lost decade. Saying something like "However, there is serious dispute on whether or not such “lost decade” or decades actually took place," gives too much credence to a flawed fringe view. -- Asingh0208 ( talk) 09:52, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
...recently the decade from 2001 to 2010 is often included,[2] so that the whole period of the 1990s to the present is referred to
as the Lost Two Decades or the Lost 20 Years.
I don't understand this sentence. Does it encompass 1990-2010 or it continues in the present (1990-)? It's just not clear from the text. I suggest editing.
ShockD ( talk) 18:29, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Sudo has reviewed this Wikipedia page, and provided us with the following comments to improve its quality:
The bubble was caused by the excessive loan growth quotas dictated on the banks by Japan's central bank, the Bank of Japan, through a policy mechanism known as the "window guidance"
(suggestion) remove this sentence. (rationale) I do not think the above writing is consistent with the view widely held by policy makers and scholars. At the moment, there is no agreement both among policymakers and scholars regarding why bubble occurred. See for instance http://www.imes.boj.or.jp/research/papers/english/15-E-12.pdf
It is notable that there is a criticism that the delay in the Boj's action to curb banks' excessive lending was one of the causes of the bubble and bubble burst. I do not rule out the possibility that the central bank's action contributed to the bubble in this sense.
We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.
We believe Dr. Sudo has expertise on the topic of this article, since he has published relevant scholarly research:
ExpertIdeasBot ( talk) 15:15, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
I was told once that the Japanese phrase for this period translated in English to "A Long Walk in a Cold Hard Rain".... Has anyone heard this? Would anyone be able to provide a link to that phrase?
-- Patbahn ( talk) 16:04, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
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The result of the move request was: not moved, reflecting the predominant sentiment that the Japanese usage is primary. ( non-admin closure) NotReallyMoniak ( talk) 14:21, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Lost Decades → Lost Decade (Japan) – No indication that "Lost Decades" in the primary name. Move was started without comment or discussion. intforce ( talk) 09:50, 7 July 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 07:24, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Either the lead sentence should be reworked to incorporate "Lost Decades" (plural) in bold, or the article should be moved to "Lost Decade" (singular). Otherwise it just looks strange to have the lead not be consistent with the article title, and makes it appear as though there is an error. Pinging @ Intforce, who probably has more insight into this than I do. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 05:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)