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For the record I am counting the present Prime Minister Koizumi Junichiro as the 68th Prime Minister not the 56th. After all if it was good enough for Grover Cleveland to be counted twice as President of the United States then be good enough for Prime Ministers of Japan serving non-consecutive terms to be counted more than once as well.-- The Shadow Treasurer 04:33, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The picture of Shinzō Abe is "stupid" - the British flag in the background?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jorgusch ( talk • contribs) 18:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
The current list is riddled with mistakes and ommissions. I am currently working on a revised list. What was the source for the original list? JeroenHoek 14:14, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Here in Australia the interim Prime Ministers are counted, so therefore I do not see why the same could not also applied with the Prime Ministers of Japan. Either that or just get rid of the numbers altogether. -- The Shadow Treasurer 29 June 2005 04:52 (UTC)
The shortest serving Australian Prime Minister Frank Forde was only in the job for six days. If he can be counted for that short a period then it is not unreasonable for the interims in Japan to be counted as well.-- The Shadow Treasurer 29 June 2005 23:23 (UTC)
I am a historian with a degree in East Asian studies and I concur that the interims should not be counted.
Also, this characterization "imperial rule" for Konoe Fumimaro's governments has no basis in Japanese historiography whatsoever. His governments should also be labeled "no party."
silentcity 9 August 2005 20:19 (UTC)
Acting Prime Ministers should not be counted if he is only standing in for a Prime Minister who is absent or sick but who is still commissioned for that high office. However interim Prime Ministers should be counted because they are exactly that Prime Minister for an interim period between the departure of the previous Prime Minister and the appointment of a Prime Minister who would serve for a much more substantial period. To not count an interim Prime Minister for the brief time that he served is like saying that this period in time never existed. -- The Shadow Treasurer 03:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
"I am a historian with a degree in East Asian studies and I concur that the interims should not be counted."
As I already said I do not agree with the interims not being counted. Historical papers and official documents can say whatever they want, does not mean they are right. Therefore I do not see the relevance of your degree since when do you need a degree for simple arithmetic. -- The Shadow Treasurer 03:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Some of the PM names are incorrectly listed using the Japanese convention (Last name first) instead of Wikipedia's English-standard convention. If someone gets a chance, it would be a good idea to review the entire list for the sake of consistency. Best, J Readings 12:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
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I added this column to the article. I got the idea from List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom, which became a featured article at one point. The details on that article are impressive and useful. Hopefully, we can add similar details here. J Readings ( talk) 06:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
It's not stated anywhere as to what the background colors indicate. Although it appears that they are an indication of party affiliation, there are some differences. Anyone know for sure? CFLeon ( talk) 23:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
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I noticed that there is no definition of A# and I# in the article. As I do not know what they stand for, could someone write a line or two defining them? Svyatoslav ( talk) 17:43, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I had already edited the article before. So, I'll post here instead of editing again: I just want to point out that Ashida Hitoshi's Minshutō (Democratic Party, 1947-1950, (ja)) and Hatoyama Ichirō's Nihon Minshutō (Democratic Party of Japan, 1954-1955, (ja)) were - despite some continuity - two different parties. -- Asakura Akira ( talk) 08:53, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
WhisperToMe ( talk) 18:38, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
I have compiled list of prime ministerial election results (
User:Asakura Akira/Diet directory#Election of the Prime Minister of Japan) from the Japanese Wikipedia, and I was wondering whether there would be demand for or objection against including the results table as it is (*) in this article or if it should be transformed into a separate article of its own instead as I had originally intended. Any thoughts?
(*): Of course, except for the colours which now match the era-spanning colour scheme used in
Commons:Category:Pie charts for elections in Japan which roughly reflects pre-/post-war continuities between parties; but adapting the table to the colors used here is quickly done if it should be included here.
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12:28, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
As the entire article has been denuded of most of its material, I suggest we put it all back in order to make it more informative and interesting again. Arglebargle79 ( talk) 19:58, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
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I have noticed that on the Prime Ministers page that the files below are not photos and look over-edited and unnatural, I would rather these images be replaced with actual photos. The images are:
File:Kakuei Tanaka 19720707 2.jpg
File:Morihiro Hosokawa cropped 1 Morihiro Hosokawa 19930809.png
I will replace these images with real looking photos if I have notice. I also forgot to put that some earlier images have been deleted earlier and some have been brought back. On this page, there have been many recent notes about similar looking photos being deleted (or nominated at the time).
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I believe this should be its own page, as this is the case in several other nation's heads of state & governments, notably the United Kingdom and the United States. Anime King 🎌 ( 💬) 12:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
I agree; there's a lot of list pages like that for other countries. Axedel ( talk) 01:12, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
In fact, Japan is the only G7 nation without such a page. There should definitely be a page. Plumber ( talk) 01:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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For the record I am counting the present Prime Minister Koizumi Junichiro as the 68th Prime Minister not the 56th. After all if it was good enough for Grover Cleveland to be counted twice as President of the United States then be good enough for Prime Ministers of Japan serving non-consecutive terms to be counted more than once as well.-- The Shadow Treasurer 04:33, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The picture of Shinzō Abe is "stupid" - the British flag in the background?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jorgusch ( talk • contribs) 18:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
The current list is riddled with mistakes and ommissions. I am currently working on a revised list. What was the source for the original list? JeroenHoek 14:14, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Here in Australia the interim Prime Ministers are counted, so therefore I do not see why the same could not also applied with the Prime Ministers of Japan. Either that or just get rid of the numbers altogether. -- The Shadow Treasurer 29 June 2005 04:52 (UTC)
The shortest serving Australian Prime Minister Frank Forde was only in the job for six days. If he can be counted for that short a period then it is not unreasonable for the interims in Japan to be counted as well.-- The Shadow Treasurer 29 June 2005 23:23 (UTC)
I am a historian with a degree in East Asian studies and I concur that the interims should not be counted.
Also, this characterization "imperial rule" for Konoe Fumimaro's governments has no basis in Japanese historiography whatsoever. His governments should also be labeled "no party."
silentcity 9 August 2005 20:19 (UTC)
Acting Prime Ministers should not be counted if he is only standing in for a Prime Minister who is absent or sick but who is still commissioned for that high office. However interim Prime Ministers should be counted because they are exactly that Prime Minister for an interim period between the departure of the previous Prime Minister and the appointment of a Prime Minister who would serve for a much more substantial period. To not count an interim Prime Minister for the brief time that he served is like saying that this period in time never existed. -- The Shadow Treasurer 03:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
"I am a historian with a degree in East Asian studies and I concur that the interims should not be counted."
As I already said I do not agree with the interims not being counted. Historical papers and official documents can say whatever they want, does not mean they are right. Therefore I do not see the relevance of your degree since when do you need a degree for simple arithmetic. -- The Shadow Treasurer 03:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Some of the PM names are incorrectly listed using the Japanese convention (Last name first) instead of Wikipedia's English-standard convention. If someone gets a chance, it would be a good idea to review the entire list for the sake of consistency. Best, J Readings 12:38, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
————
This issue has recently arisen again. The following is a conversation of mine with User:WhisperToMe on the subject, following a recent edit:
I added this column to the article. I got the idea from List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom, which became a featured article at one point. The details on that article are impressive and useful. Hopefully, we can add similar details here. J Readings ( talk) 06:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
It's not stated anywhere as to what the background colors indicate. Although it appears that they are an indication of party affiliation, there are some differences. Anyone know for sure? CFLeon ( talk) 23:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
The image Image:Sosuke Uno.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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I noticed that there is no definition of A# and I# in the article. As I do not know what they stand for, could someone write a line or two defining them? Svyatoslav ( talk) 17:43, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I had already edited the article before. So, I'll post here instead of editing again: I just want to point out that Ashida Hitoshi's Minshutō (Democratic Party, 1947-1950, (ja)) and Hatoyama Ichirō's Nihon Minshutō (Democratic Party of Japan, 1954-1955, (ja)) were - despite some continuity - two different parties. -- Asakura Akira ( talk) 08:53, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
WhisperToMe ( talk) 18:38, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
I have compiled list of prime ministerial election results (
User:Asakura Akira/Diet directory#Election of the Prime Minister of Japan) from the Japanese Wikipedia, and I was wondering whether there would be demand for or objection against including the results table as it is (*) in this article or if it should be transformed into a separate article of its own instead as I had originally intended. Any thoughts?
(*): Of course, except for the colours which now match the era-spanning colour scheme used in
Commons:Category:Pie charts for elections in Japan which roughly reflects pre-/post-war continuities between parties; but adapting the table to the colors used here is quickly done if it should be included here.
--
Asakura Akira (
talk)
12:28, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
As the entire article has been denuded of most of its material, I suggest we put it all back in order to make it more informative and interesting again. Arglebargle79 ( talk) 19:58, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
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I have noticed that on the Prime Ministers page that the files below are not photos and look over-edited and unnatural, I would rather these images be replaced with actual photos. The images are:
File:Kakuei Tanaka 19720707 2.jpg
File:Morihiro Hosokawa cropped 1 Morihiro Hosokawa 19930809.png
I will replace these images with real looking photos if I have notice. I also forgot to put that some earlier images have been deleted earlier and some have been brought back. On this page, there have been many recent notes about similar looking photos being deleted (or nominated at the time).
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
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I believe this should be its own page, as this is the case in several other nation's heads of state & governments, notably the United Kingdom and the United States. Anime King 🎌 ( 💬) 12:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
I agree; there's a lot of list pages like that for other countries. Axedel ( talk) 01:12, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
In fact, Japan is the only G7 nation without such a page. There should definitely be a page. Plumber ( talk) 01:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)