From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Semi-protected edit request on 25 Jul 2024

Please add Pauly Likens, 14, whom was found to be murdered and dismembered on July 11th 2024. Investigations by Pennsylvania police charged her murderer - Dashawn Watkins, 29 - of first degree murder, aggravated assault, abuse of a corpse, and and tampering with evidence. BoopK ( talk) 03:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Everything on Wikipedia needs a reliable source, so if this is to be added, we need a link to a report in a reliable news outlet. But that would not be enough – this article is a list of people killed for being transgender. There is nothing in your post which suggests that Pauly Likens was killed for being transgender, so this death would not come within the subject of this article. Sweet6970 ( talk) 12:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply
 Done - added with refs. Raladic ( talk) 17:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Raladic:, you presumably read my reply to the IP about the fact that this article is a list of people killed for being transgender. And that is, of course, plain from the title of the article. And there is an edit notice which says:
The scope of this list is only deaths of transgender people where reliable sources report that the victim being transgender was (one of) the reasons why they were killed. This is not an article to list every person who was killed and transgender, especially if the killer is unknown and no sources contain no evidence of their motive. Any additions that fail these requirements will be removed.
Yet you have added an item which has no information that the deceased was killed for being transgender.
Why? Sweet6970 ( talk) 21:33, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
The sources make it clear that the DA consider it a hate crime and said they are looking into adding the charge of "ethnic intimidation", which is what PA has right now as it has no formal hate crime statute, but they clearly consider it part of the motive or else they wouldn't consider it. And as noted by the extra sentence, the Governor is working with the legislature to improve their laws and protections, especially in the wake of the case. Raladic ( talk) 04:36, 27 July 2024 (UTC) reply
You have still not provided any information that this death was because the victim was transgender. In fact, you have now said that it may have been related to the victim’s ethnicity. Whilst the two motives are not necessarily mutually exclusive, you need to provide definite evidence that at least one of the motives for the killing was because the victim was transgender – otherwise your edit is in breach of the edit notice. Sweet6970 ( talk) 12:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Serena Angelique Velázquez and Layla Pelaez

Please re-add the deaths of Serena Angelique Velázquez and Layla Pelaez with the added source of Puerto Rico's newspaper of record, El Nuevo Día, "The evidence in the case, initially investigated by the Puerto Rican Police, includes an admission that the motive for the crime included the fact that the victims were trans women, making it the first federal case to present allegations of a hate crime in Puerto Rico." Butterscotch Beluga ( talk) 17:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thank you for providing this source. I have re-added the material, with the new reference. Sweet6970 ( talk) 20:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Semi-protected edit request on 25 Jul 2024

Please add Pauly Likens, 14, whom was found to be murdered and dismembered on July 11th 2024. Investigations by Pennsylvania police charged her murderer - Dashawn Watkins, 29 - of first degree murder, aggravated assault, abuse of a corpse, and and tampering with evidence. BoopK ( talk) 03:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Everything on Wikipedia needs a reliable source, so if this is to be added, we need a link to a report in a reliable news outlet. But that would not be enough – this article is a list of people killed for being transgender. There is nothing in your post which suggests that Pauly Likens was killed for being transgender, so this death would not come within the subject of this article. Sweet6970 ( talk) 12:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply
 Done - added with refs. Raladic ( talk) 17:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Raladic:, you presumably read my reply to the IP about the fact that this article is a list of people killed for being transgender. And that is, of course, plain from the title of the article. And there is an edit notice which says:
The scope of this list is only deaths of transgender people where reliable sources report that the victim being transgender was (one of) the reasons why they were killed. This is not an article to list every person who was killed and transgender, especially if the killer is unknown and no sources contain no evidence of their motive. Any additions that fail these requirements will be removed.
Yet you have added an item which has no information that the deceased was killed for being transgender.
Why? Sweet6970 ( talk) 21:33, 26 July 2024 (UTC) reply
The sources make it clear that the DA consider it a hate crime and said they are looking into adding the charge of "ethnic intimidation", which is what PA has right now as it has no formal hate crime statute, but they clearly consider it part of the motive or else they wouldn't consider it. And as noted by the extra sentence, the Governor is working with the legislature to improve their laws and protections, especially in the wake of the case. Raladic ( talk) 04:36, 27 July 2024 (UTC) reply
You have still not provided any information that this death was because the victim was transgender. In fact, you have now said that it may have been related to the victim’s ethnicity. Whilst the two motives are not necessarily mutually exclusive, you need to provide definite evidence that at least one of the motives for the killing was because the victim was transgender – otherwise your edit is in breach of the edit notice. Sweet6970 ( talk) 12:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Serena Angelique Velázquez and Layla Pelaez

Please re-add the deaths of Serena Angelique Velázquez and Layla Pelaez with the added source of Puerto Rico's newspaper of record, El Nuevo Día, "The evidence in the case, initially investigated by the Puerto Rican Police, includes an admission that the motive for the crime included the fact that the victims were trans women, making it the first federal case to present allegations of a hate crime in Puerto Rico." Butterscotch Beluga ( talk) 17:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Thank you for providing this source. I have re-added the material, with the new reference. Sweet6970 ( talk) 20:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Videos

Youtube | Vimeo | Bing

Websites

Google | Yahoo | Bing

Encyclopedia

Google | Yahoo | Bing

Facebook