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Why is Pirates...Black Pearl listed twice, one for $140 million, and another for $125 million? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.77.37 ( talk) 04:11, 14 July 2006
Number One of bthe most expensive Movies in Dollar is missing
THese movies are very expensive !!! Tranformers 2 cost them 225 million IT SHOULD BE ON THE LIST!!!
I don't think that Star Wars 7 and 9 budget is too high, Forbes clearly make a mistake. 151.28.43.200 ( talk) 11:02, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
Please note carefully that figures quoted might not include all production costs, and may only include UK based spending that has to be declared for tax breaks. USA spending and some post production might not be included in the financial records provided for UK tax credits. Also even if you take the sources at face value, it doesn't seem entirely clear to readers that figures being listed here are only the 'net cost after tax credits, not the gross total up front spend, the actual production budget that had to be put up to get the film made. I disagree entirely with the parent post, if anything Forbes (and this Wikipedia list article) are low-balling it, not stating the full costs in the accounts, and those are still not necessary the real total costs for the whole production. Hollywood accounting! -- 109.78.198.193 ( talk) 04:17, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
it depends on how you look at it". As a reader of an encyclopedia I hope things would not depend too much on interpretation and that articles would be clear and not misleading, and avoid presenting incomplete information as if it was definitive. (I believe the price paid and money spent up front is true the cost, irrespective of getting rebates cashback or tax credits later.) In most cases believe readers are better served by providing a range than by switching to a single figure without clear consensus.
According to a new Forbes article, the total budgets for TFA/TROS were actually 567.3 million and 542.4 million respectively. Numbers are from most-recent company filings, and the reason the movie's production cost has increased over time is because the various temporary production companies (Foodles, etc.) have residual costs/fees associated with having filmed in the UK. I'm not really a Wikipedia editor, I just happened to be looking at this page a couple days ago, and then came across this new article today. 2607:FEA8:E0A8:5900:1103:83D8:AA96:A870 ( talk) 15:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
An editor has implemented an edit using row spans to merge the dollar figures, and removing the precision range for Superman in the adjusted table. I will take these in turn:
I have reverted to the WP:STATUSQUO for now, and hopefully we can get a few more opinions before any more changes are made. Betty Logan ( talk) 12:04, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
An editor has repeatedly added cherry-picked examples to the lead, that do not particularly exemplify the topic of the article in any meaningful way. There is no particular reason to highlight the recent Indiana Jones or Mission Impossible films over more costly examples higher up the list. One of the films that the anonymous editor keeps adding—The Flash—does not even qualify from the list. These choices are examples of listcruft, or WP:RECENTISM, and unlike the other examples in the lead (which qualify on the basis of being the most expensive or being a previous record-holder) it is not clear why they are even being mentioned. I would remind the editor that Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS, and if you are going to highlight examples in the lead of an article there has to be clear encyclopedic reason why they are being elevated above other films on the list, otherwise it is simply editing that does not conform to WP:NPOV. Betty Logan ( talk) 21:02, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
That movie costs 288 million, right below Dead Reckoning. Shouldn’t that be on there? 2603:6080:6004:85C:DD03:DC9B:4C6E:22CB ( talk) 22:30, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
It appears that Mission Impossible 7 has a gross budget of $291 million dollars, but the net budget is $219 million dollars and the net budget of other films appear next to them instead of the gross one. So why doesn’t it happen with this film? PabloDiaz2018 ( talk) 21:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks to the most recent tax releases, Fallen Kingdom is now the most expensive film of all time. poketape ( talk) 05:15, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
Several sources here are from Forbes Senior Contributors.
WP:FORBESCON says Editors show consensus for treating Forbes.com contributor articles as self-published sources, unless the article was written by a subject-matter expert.
I'm assuming that's the case here; if so
this edit of mine was in the wrong.
70.163.220.139 (
talk) 21:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
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Why is Pirates...Black Pearl listed twice, one for $140 million, and another for $125 million? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.77.37 ( talk) 04:11, 14 July 2006
Number One of bthe most expensive Movies in Dollar is missing
THese movies are very expensive !!! Tranformers 2 cost them 225 million IT SHOULD BE ON THE LIST!!!
I don't think that Star Wars 7 and 9 budget is too high, Forbes clearly make a mistake. 151.28.43.200 ( talk) 11:02, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
Please note carefully that figures quoted might not include all production costs, and may only include UK based spending that has to be declared for tax breaks. USA spending and some post production might not be included in the financial records provided for UK tax credits. Also even if you take the sources at face value, it doesn't seem entirely clear to readers that figures being listed here are only the 'net cost after tax credits, not the gross total up front spend, the actual production budget that had to be put up to get the film made. I disagree entirely with the parent post, if anything Forbes (and this Wikipedia list article) are low-balling it, not stating the full costs in the accounts, and those are still not necessary the real total costs for the whole production. Hollywood accounting! -- 109.78.198.193 ( talk) 04:17, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
it depends on how you look at it". As a reader of an encyclopedia I hope things would not depend too much on interpretation and that articles would be clear and not misleading, and avoid presenting incomplete information as if it was definitive. (I believe the price paid and money spent up front is true the cost, irrespective of getting rebates cashback or tax credits later.) In most cases believe readers are better served by providing a range than by switching to a single figure without clear consensus.
According to a new Forbes article, the total budgets for TFA/TROS were actually 567.3 million and 542.4 million respectively. Numbers are from most-recent company filings, and the reason the movie's production cost has increased over time is because the various temporary production companies (Foodles, etc.) have residual costs/fees associated with having filmed in the UK. I'm not really a Wikipedia editor, I just happened to be looking at this page a couple days ago, and then came across this new article today. 2607:FEA8:E0A8:5900:1103:83D8:AA96:A870 ( talk) 15:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
An editor has implemented an edit using row spans to merge the dollar figures, and removing the precision range for Superman in the adjusted table. I will take these in turn:
I have reverted to the WP:STATUSQUO for now, and hopefully we can get a few more opinions before any more changes are made. Betty Logan ( talk) 12:04, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
An editor has repeatedly added cherry-picked examples to the lead, that do not particularly exemplify the topic of the article in any meaningful way. There is no particular reason to highlight the recent Indiana Jones or Mission Impossible films over more costly examples higher up the list. One of the films that the anonymous editor keeps adding—The Flash—does not even qualify from the list. These choices are examples of listcruft, or WP:RECENTISM, and unlike the other examples in the lead (which qualify on the basis of being the most expensive or being a previous record-holder) it is not clear why they are even being mentioned. I would remind the editor that Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS, and if you are going to highlight examples in the lead of an article there has to be clear encyclopedic reason why they are being elevated above other films on the list, otherwise it is simply editing that does not conform to WP:NPOV. Betty Logan ( talk) 21:02, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
That movie costs 288 million, right below Dead Reckoning. Shouldn’t that be on there? 2603:6080:6004:85C:DD03:DC9B:4C6E:22CB ( talk) 22:30, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
It appears that Mission Impossible 7 has a gross budget of $291 million dollars, but the net budget is $219 million dollars and the net budget of other films appear next to them instead of the gross one. So why doesn’t it happen with this film? PabloDiaz2018 ( talk) 21:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks to the most recent tax releases, Fallen Kingdom is now the most expensive film of all time. poketape ( talk) 05:15, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
Several sources here are from Forbes Senior Contributors.
WP:FORBESCON says Editors show consensus for treating Forbes.com contributor articles as self-published sources, unless the article was written by a subject-matter expert.
I'm assuming that's the case here; if so
this edit of mine was in the wrong.
70.163.220.139 (
talk) 21:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)