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Prod
This unsourced list should be prodded. We don't need to perpetuate black legends in mainspace. In most cases, a monarch was declared "mad" by one of his successors purely for political gain. There is no reasonable criterion to assess madness of ancient monarchs, given the dearth of reliable contemporary sources. Was
Cambyses as mad as he was represented by Darius? The question will always be open. --
Ghirla-трёп- 10:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Of course the question will be open. The purpose of this list is not to close it, merely to categorise the many instances where chroniclers have thought fit to declare a monarch mad. It doesn't make judgement. Whereas by contrast there are countless Wikipedia articles on individuals that see fit to assess a monarch's reign. I'm afraid I view your assertion that all "mad" monarchs were declared as such by their successors for political gain an overgeneralisation.
Slacspeak up! 21:14, 9 July 2007 (UTC)reply
The title of the list clearly makes a judgement. Almost all leaders are called crazy by someone. Oddly, leaders like Nero and George III who were very rarely called crazy are on this list. I strongly vote for deletion. This is plain misinformation
Hoshidoshi 04:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)reply
George III was forcibly incarcerated for several months of his reign due to insanity. Check out this
BBC news article.
Cardamon 09:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Commodus?
Should Commodus be added under Roman Emperors? The man thought he was Hercules reincarnate, for crying out loud. But I wanted to get some feedback before I added him.
68.116.143.113 21:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)reply
I would also add Ferdinand I, emperor of Austria (1835-1848). Not mad, but usually regarded as mentally retarded. If Fedor I of Russia is included on these grounds, then so should Ferdinand. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
79.75.39.74 (
talk) 20:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)reply
Ferdinand I is a much weaker case for inclusion than a number of these other rulers. Though he was seriously ill i don't see evidence of significant mental impairment. Though he was ridiculed in public, his diary seems cogent. [BTW i resorted the list of European monarchs by date of ascendance to the throne, and removed the mini article about Charles II which honestly has no place in a list setting.
LordFenix (
talk) 07:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)reply
The predecessor of Emperor Hirohito
The predecessor of Emperor
Hirohito of Japan was OFFICIALLY declared mentally ill, and his duties were officially taken over by
Crown Prince Hirohito as the official
Prince Regent. Source: Any good biography of Hirohito, such as the one that I read years ago. Hence, Hirohito had a very long reign after his father's death, but even that was extended by his previous service as the Prince Regent. Hirohito was only the third Emperor since the
Meiji Restoration, following Emperor Meiji, of course, then his father, and then himself. His son Emperor
Akihito is only the fourth emperor since the Restoration. Note that he his an emperor without an empire, since the
Japanese Empire was formally abolished in
1947.
47.215.211.115 (
talk) 05:03, 15 January 2017 (UTC)reply
You mean
Emperor Taishō (1879-1926, reigned 1912-1926)? He suffered from lifelong neurological problems, starting with contracting
meningitis shortly after his birth. His health deteriorated and by 1919, he was unable to undertake any official duties. In 1926, he was suffering from
pneumonia. He died due to a heart attack. He was 47-years-old.
Dimadick (
talk) 20:34, 17 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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Prod
This unsourced list should be prodded. We don't need to perpetuate black legends in mainspace. In most cases, a monarch was declared "mad" by one of his successors purely for political gain. There is no reasonable criterion to assess madness of ancient monarchs, given the dearth of reliable contemporary sources. Was
Cambyses as mad as he was represented by Darius? The question will always be open. --
Ghirla-трёп- 10:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Of course the question will be open. The purpose of this list is not to close it, merely to categorise the many instances where chroniclers have thought fit to declare a monarch mad. It doesn't make judgement. Whereas by contrast there are countless Wikipedia articles on individuals that see fit to assess a monarch's reign. I'm afraid I view your assertion that all "mad" monarchs were declared as such by their successors for political gain an overgeneralisation.
Slacspeak up! 21:14, 9 July 2007 (UTC)reply
The title of the list clearly makes a judgement. Almost all leaders are called crazy by someone. Oddly, leaders like Nero and George III who were very rarely called crazy are on this list. I strongly vote for deletion. This is plain misinformation
Hoshidoshi 04:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)reply
George III was forcibly incarcerated for several months of his reign due to insanity. Check out this
BBC news article.
Cardamon 09:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)reply
Commodus?
Should Commodus be added under Roman Emperors? The man thought he was Hercules reincarnate, for crying out loud. But I wanted to get some feedback before I added him.
68.116.143.113 21:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)reply
I would also add Ferdinand I, emperor of Austria (1835-1848). Not mad, but usually regarded as mentally retarded. If Fedor I of Russia is included on these grounds, then so should Ferdinand. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
79.75.39.74 (
talk) 20:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)reply
Ferdinand I is a much weaker case for inclusion than a number of these other rulers. Though he was seriously ill i don't see evidence of significant mental impairment. Though he was ridiculed in public, his diary seems cogent. [BTW i resorted the list of European monarchs by date of ascendance to the throne, and removed the mini article about Charles II which honestly has no place in a list setting.
LordFenix (
talk) 07:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)reply
The predecessor of Emperor Hirohito
The predecessor of Emperor
Hirohito of Japan was OFFICIALLY declared mentally ill, and his duties were officially taken over by
Crown Prince Hirohito as the official
Prince Regent. Source: Any good biography of Hirohito, such as the one that I read years ago. Hence, Hirohito had a very long reign after his father's death, but even that was extended by his previous service as the Prince Regent. Hirohito was only the third Emperor since the
Meiji Restoration, following Emperor Meiji, of course, then his father, and then himself. His son Emperor
Akihito is only the fourth emperor since the Restoration. Note that he his an emperor without an empire, since the
Japanese Empire was formally abolished in
1947.
47.215.211.115 (
talk) 05:03, 15 January 2017 (UTC)reply
You mean
Emperor Taishō (1879-1926, reigned 1912-1926)? He suffered from lifelong neurological problems, starting with contracting
meningitis shortly after his birth. His health deteriorated and by 1919, he was unable to undertake any official duties. In 1926, he was suffering from
pneumonia. He died due to a heart attack. He was 47-years-old.
Dimadick (
talk) 20:34, 17 January 2017 (UTC)reply