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The one I can think of currently is the Magic School Bus (don't blame me, I'm a parent). It's notable enough, but I'm sure it doesn't fit into any of the current categories. -- Kickstart70- T- C 02:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Like the list of ficitional spaceships this page is pointless unless there is some good reason for having a confuisng mess that is no help to anyone can someone delete it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.84.252 ( talk) 18:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
I see several notable examples wiped out in a mass deletion spree done by an editor, who back in May of last year nominated the article for deletion, that ending in Keep. That means consensus was to keep the entire article, not have 90% of it wiped out. I am restoring the mass deletion. If you believe something doesn't belong there, discuss it here, and someone familiar with that series will comment on it. Dream Focus 04:10, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
A couple of points:
Happy editing, Jack Merridew 07:40, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
What about airships, Nemo's submarine, Robur the Conqueror, rocket belts (my word, YES...Buck Rogers and company!), starships, flying carpets, broomsticks, chariots drawn by the horses of the sun, a basket carried by swans, King Arthur's barge.... -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 17:43, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Are stepping disks, transfer booths, teleporters "vehicles" for the purpose of this list? If not, why are time machines included ( they don't travel in space at all, except incidentally to not leaving the protagonist somerewhere in intersteallar space as the Earth moves)? What about astral projection? -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 19:32, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
We're excluding Gepetto's whale, Gandalf's horse, Gulliver's Yahoos and other living creatures, right? -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 19:43, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Are we excluding real vehicles that were used in fiction? For example the Nimitz was the star of The Final Countdown (film). And the Titanic made a few movies, too. -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 21:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Well? Orbiting satellites, space stations, etc. ? -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 05:37, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Christine is out but Nomad is in. Why? Would the article owner care to elaborate? And poor old Jay Jay the Jet Plane is never going to get an article separate from the discussion of the TV series, unlike the drooling fanboys of various other animation series. ( This really should be split into "List of fictional automobiles", "List of fictional airships", etc.)-- Wtshymanski ( talk) 14:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Not the ones with pinstripes...powered exoskeletons, like Starship Troopers or Forever War or about 11 billion things called "gundam" that I have no great interest in reading. Not a flying car, not an automobile, usually have some flight/cross country capability that would seem to make them vehicles. I think they need their own heading. -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 22:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Notable element of a notable film, something talked about, and they even made a toy from it. Most famous inventions of the character, what he is best known for. [ [8]] Dream Focus 21:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Featured list criteria . There are only 6: Prose, lead, comprehensiveness, structure, style and stability. Featured lists I've looked at have references, even if the entry is also a blue link - seems redundant to me. -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 19:41, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I read through this comment page and while it's always refreshing to see Wiki editors not fighting (much) and calling each other names, my biggest problem with this article is it has zero citations or references. If we follow Wiki's rules that: any information without a citation may be removed, then by definition this article won't exist. Some suggestions would be: anyone this invested with coming up with long lists of information would be equally invested in citing where they got this information (and if they're not I suppose that reflects the trivia nature of lists), or we could turn this into a category page (again, there is no actual information on this page outside of links). Or better yet, that actual information I just mentioned, a paragraph after each category justifying its existence to those who don't know much about fantasy worlds and the machines within them might be nice. Duende-Poetry ( talk) 14:15, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello! Thank you for replying. I guess where I am concerned, especially after reading how this page is currently presented, if this falls under these guidelines for Wiki or not:
Wikipedia is not a mirror or a repository of links, images, or media files 2. Mere collections of internal links, except for disambiguation pages when an article title is ambiguous, and for lists for browsing or to assist with article organization and navigation.
I understand one person's idea about organization and navigation can be confusing to another person, but not personally being a fanboy the information presented here, as it stands, doesn't explain to me why it's here. That's why I posted the This article provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject, because it all seems very arbitrary. For example, under Flying Cars you have the Spinner from Blade Runner, but not the flying taxi from Fifth Element. You have the Hoverboard from Back to the Future, but not the Hovercrafts from the original Jonny Quest series. There are mention of some random tanks, but not Tank Girl's. You have a category for Flying or moving castles (which, I suppose, could be argued could be considered a Magical vehicle too) but not Baba-Yaga's chicken-legged hut. And that's my whole point, it's random and amateurish, no one has done any work to explain why any of this is important besides someone declaring "I'm going to make a list." I can replace one arbitrary entry with another it doesn't actually effect anything. Plus, there's no citation and the categories are, in places, very vague. I mean, if Herbie is considered a Magical vehicle, why isn't Thomas the Train? Or any of the vehicles in Bob the Builder (or the billion and half other cartoons featuring talking vehicles) So my question to you is, if this is an article of value to you, how can we make this better? Duende-Poetry ( talk) 16:24, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, yes, maybe I'm not making myself clear. I can see how this is organized, but so far what I don't hear, and as an editor would like to know, is why is this list necessary? Why is the information presented in this list necessary? Wiki tries hard to avoid trivia, which is why in encyclopedia articles there is some text explaining to the reader why they should care (i.e., "this is so not trivial!") So I'm not calling for original research, but what I am asking for is to explain to me how we can make this better, so if someone asked me "justify this page, why should we keep it?" right now, as the page is, I don't think I could come up with an argument for keeping it Duende-Poetry ( talk) 17:02, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello again. I've been thinking about my approach in wanting to make this article better and I think I might have perhaps gotten off on the wrong foot. It's a good thing we have editors here who feel passionately about the work they do and I think Wiki would be far less impressive without them and what they bring to these articles. I think I was too hasty in my assessment of the value of information provided here. Sometimes when I get caught up trying to improve things I tend to be a little ... narrow in my visions. If there is anything I can do to be of assistance here, please let me know. In the meantime, thanks for the hard work. Duende-Poetry ( talk) 02:23, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
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The one I can think of currently is the Magic School Bus (don't blame me, I'm a parent). It's notable enough, but I'm sure it doesn't fit into any of the current categories. -- Kickstart70- T- C 02:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Like the list of ficitional spaceships this page is pointless unless there is some good reason for having a confuisng mess that is no help to anyone can someone delete it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.84.252 ( talk) 18:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
I see several notable examples wiped out in a mass deletion spree done by an editor, who back in May of last year nominated the article for deletion, that ending in Keep. That means consensus was to keep the entire article, not have 90% of it wiped out. I am restoring the mass deletion. If you believe something doesn't belong there, discuss it here, and someone familiar with that series will comment on it. Dream Focus 04:10, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
A couple of points:
Happy editing, Jack Merridew 07:40, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
What about airships, Nemo's submarine, Robur the Conqueror, rocket belts (my word, YES...Buck Rogers and company!), starships, flying carpets, broomsticks, chariots drawn by the horses of the sun, a basket carried by swans, King Arthur's barge.... -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 17:43, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Are stepping disks, transfer booths, teleporters "vehicles" for the purpose of this list? If not, why are time machines included ( they don't travel in space at all, except incidentally to not leaving the protagonist somerewhere in intersteallar space as the Earth moves)? What about astral projection? -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 19:32, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
We're excluding Gepetto's whale, Gandalf's horse, Gulliver's Yahoos and other living creatures, right? -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 19:43, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Are we excluding real vehicles that were used in fiction? For example the Nimitz was the star of The Final Countdown (film). And the Titanic made a few movies, too. -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 21:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Well? Orbiting satellites, space stations, etc. ? -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 05:37, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Christine is out but Nomad is in. Why? Would the article owner care to elaborate? And poor old Jay Jay the Jet Plane is never going to get an article separate from the discussion of the TV series, unlike the drooling fanboys of various other animation series. ( This really should be split into "List of fictional automobiles", "List of fictional airships", etc.)-- Wtshymanski ( talk) 14:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Not the ones with pinstripes...powered exoskeletons, like Starship Troopers or Forever War or about 11 billion things called "gundam" that I have no great interest in reading. Not a flying car, not an automobile, usually have some flight/cross country capability that would seem to make them vehicles. I think they need their own heading. -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 22:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Notable element of a notable film, something talked about, and they even made a toy from it. Most famous inventions of the character, what he is best known for. [ [8]] Dream Focus 21:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Featured list criteria . There are only 6: Prose, lead, comprehensiveness, structure, style and stability. Featured lists I've looked at have references, even if the entry is also a blue link - seems redundant to me. -- Wtshymanski ( talk) 19:41, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I read through this comment page and while it's always refreshing to see Wiki editors not fighting (much) and calling each other names, my biggest problem with this article is it has zero citations or references. If we follow Wiki's rules that: any information without a citation may be removed, then by definition this article won't exist. Some suggestions would be: anyone this invested with coming up with long lists of information would be equally invested in citing where they got this information (and if they're not I suppose that reflects the trivia nature of lists), or we could turn this into a category page (again, there is no actual information on this page outside of links). Or better yet, that actual information I just mentioned, a paragraph after each category justifying its existence to those who don't know much about fantasy worlds and the machines within them might be nice. Duende-Poetry ( talk) 14:15, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello! Thank you for replying. I guess where I am concerned, especially after reading how this page is currently presented, if this falls under these guidelines for Wiki or not:
Wikipedia is not a mirror or a repository of links, images, or media files 2. Mere collections of internal links, except for disambiguation pages when an article title is ambiguous, and for lists for browsing or to assist with article organization and navigation.
I understand one person's idea about organization and navigation can be confusing to another person, but not personally being a fanboy the information presented here, as it stands, doesn't explain to me why it's here. That's why I posted the This article provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject, because it all seems very arbitrary. For example, under Flying Cars you have the Spinner from Blade Runner, but not the flying taxi from Fifth Element. You have the Hoverboard from Back to the Future, but not the Hovercrafts from the original Jonny Quest series. There are mention of some random tanks, but not Tank Girl's. You have a category for Flying or moving castles (which, I suppose, could be argued could be considered a Magical vehicle too) but not Baba-Yaga's chicken-legged hut. And that's my whole point, it's random and amateurish, no one has done any work to explain why any of this is important besides someone declaring "I'm going to make a list." I can replace one arbitrary entry with another it doesn't actually effect anything. Plus, there's no citation and the categories are, in places, very vague. I mean, if Herbie is considered a Magical vehicle, why isn't Thomas the Train? Or any of the vehicles in Bob the Builder (or the billion and half other cartoons featuring talking vehicles) So my question to you is, if this is an article of value to you, how can we make this better? Duende-Poetry ( talk) 16:24, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, yes, maybe I'm not making myself clear. I can see how this is organized, but so far what I don't hear, and as an editor would like to know, is why is this list necessary? Why is the information presented in this list necessary? Wiki tries hard to avoid trivia, which is why in encyclopedia articles there is some text explaining to the reader why they should care (i.e., "this is so not trivial!") So I'm not calling for original research, but what I am asking for is to explain to me how we can make this better, so if someone asked me "justify this page, why should we keep it?" right now, as the page is, I don't think I could come up with an argument for keeping it Duende-Poetry ( talk) 17:02, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello again. I've been thinking about my approach in wanting to make this article better and I think I might have perhaps gotten off on the wrong foot. It's a good thing we have editors here who feel passionately about the work they do and I think Wiki would be far less impressive without them and what they bring to these articles. I think I was too hasty in my assessment of the value of information provided here. Sometimes when I get caught up trying to improve things I tend to be a little ... narrow in my visions. If there is anything I can do to be of assistance here, please let me know. In the meantime, thanks for the hard work. Duende-Poetry ( talk) 02:23, 30 November 2011 (UTC)