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Is this list going to include only recent scientists holding a post in a recognized discipline of climate science, or would those with early theoretical contributions like Svante Arrhenius (1859-1927) and Joseph Fourier (1768-1830) be appropriate? N p holmes ( talk) 11:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Check the article "Expert credibility in climate change" just published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (available on-line) that analyzed the prominence of climate scientists. (See commentary at Science Daily and Science magazine.) In particular: after assembling a list of 1372 climate scientists, they eliminated everyone with fewer than twenty climate publications. And still had over 900 scientists. I suggest that 1) an actual "list of climate scientists" is way beyond the scope of an article, and 2) any sublist needs stringent (even drastic) and documented selection criteria. - J. Johnson (JJ) ( talk) 20:52, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
I used to do a few biogs of climate people, especially geoengineers and scientific leaders like Katherine Richardson. You mihgt wanna add my biogs to this list. I don't know how to find the articles I've created. Andrewjlockley ( talk) 03:02, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Don't have the time to do the legwork on this at the moment, but a few folks to consider adding:
Malte Meinshausen
Ben Santer
Judith Lean
Jeff Severinghaus
Gerald A. Meehl
Reto Knutti
Steve Sherwood
And hundreds of others whose name I don't have at the top of my head... This [1] might be a useful resource if you haven't seen it already. Zeke Hausfather ( talk) 22:13, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Heh Atmoz back OFF on reverting the Henrik Svensmark climate scientist addition. Cosmoclimatology theory is as relavant as AGW hypothosis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.35.137.68 ( talk) 16:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I just added a section for surnames starting with V to include David Vaughan. However, "V" does not show up in the TOC. Does anyone know why? Can anyone please fix that? Because I sure don't know how. Thanks.-- CurtisSwain ( talk) 20:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
I find the commas on both sides of the parentheses in the current format (copied from some similar list, I think) odd. Anyone mind if I go through and change "Richard Alley, (1957- ), American" to "Richard Alley (1957- ), American" and so on? N p holmes ( talk) 06:59, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Upon reading a few blurbs, they seem to show only what these people have done as relates to modern climate, and do not summarize their notability in general. Is this good? I find it misleading/uninformative as to their scientific careers, or else I wouldn't be bringing it up, Awickert ( talk) 07:50, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
I toook out a whole pile of cruft Cla added. These people have wiki links; we don't need refs here William M. Connolley ( talk) 09:04, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
If we would ever like to nominate this list for Featured List consideration - if FL requires filling the list with cruft, then lets just not bother with FL status. Or if you have a burning desire to take some list to FL, find another one William M. Connolley ( talk) 14:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm considering removing both of these. I decided against being bold, because I came here on it being used as an example in another dispute. However the list says it's for "famous or otherwise notable persons" which makes sense since we can't list every single climate scientist in the world. And it's questionable if this applies to these two people, as shown in the AFDs. There's one more red link I'll leave in as it hasn't been tested yet. BTW, please refrain from referring to these people by name if possible. I purposely formatted this comment to make it easy to blank out the names later which I feel is for the best for BLP reasons. Nil Einne ( talk) 01:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Two names that need to be added. The article has Suyotoro Manabe but his collaborator on their seminal paper in 1967 Roger Wetherald ismissing.
Also Gilbert Plass - arguably the person who set the ball rolling on calculation of the GH effect and AGW is also missing. He has his own Wiki entry, but no entry here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glenn Tamblyn ( talk • contribs) 10:50, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Delete the dead guys from the list too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:BE21:100:ADAB:DEF0:9FE3:6BBA ( talk) 03:28, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
The list is presently heavily skewed toward scientists who are politically active contrarians against the mainstream scientific community, rather than scientists who have made significant contributions to climate science. Here, for example, is a list of the 3000+ most-cited climate scientists. -- The Cunctator ( talk) 19:06, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
How about adding some sort of code (an asterisk, for example) either to all those scientists who do support the alleged consensus on anthropogenic global warming -- or adding the designation to those who don't support that position? This would make the list doubly useful. 74.95.43.249 ( talk) 20:53, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
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User:Hob Gadling has done a good job summarizing the re-emergent NPOV problem of overweighting contrarians. See 2015 discussion above. -- The Cunctator ( talk) 23:31, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
User:Handwerker has added some names to the list today, which, by some weird coincidence, are all on the List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming.
So I made a list of names which are categorized in Category:Climatologists or its subcategories (except Category:Indian meteorologists, which is the only subcat both of this and of Category:Meteorologists) but are not in this list:
On the other hand, these people are in the list but not in the cat. Some of them do not have an article, and one of them (Bard) has one in the French WP:
Hope this helps. -- Hob Gadling ( talk) 19:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
About half of the authors publishing in the field today have East Asian names. Eg.:
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A list is good, but I am tempted to think that it would be more valuable if it was parsed into a sortable table including columns such as:
I realize that there are a great many possible variables that could be used for columns, but I perhaps just a few choice columns would already add value. Comments?
Enquire (
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05:10, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
I collected some names that are not in the list, but the descriptions are still missing:
-- Hob Gadling ( talk) 12:34, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
[2] he clearly meets the basic criteria
The criteria are persons who have contributed to the study of climate science
.
Our article
Fred Singer does not mention climate in the "Career" part, except in the context of teaching. It only appeared in the "Public debates" section and in the intro.
So, @ Jonathan A Jones:, please explain how Singer has "clearly" contributed to the study of climate science. (Misinformation does not count.) Did he also "contribute to the study of oncology" by lying about the connection between smoking and cancer? -- Hob Gadling ( talk) 05:52, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
professor of environmental scienceNot a contribution to climate science.
trained asNot a contribution to climate science.
space researchNot a contribution to climate science.
involved in the development of earth observation satellitesNot a contribution to climate science.
established the National Weather Bureau's Satellite Service CenterNot a contribution to climate science.
founding deanNot a contribution to climate science.
held several government positionsNot a contribution to climate science.
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As per the previous deletion, you must add a notice that you obtained permission to reproduce this copyrighted material. (The copyright notice is prominently displayed on the source page.-- RandomHumanoid( ⇒) 17:51, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Is this list going to include only recent scientists holding a post in a recognized discipline of climate science, or would those with early theoretical contributions like Svante Arrhenius (1859-1927) and Joseph Fourier (1768-1830) be appropriate? N p holmes ( talk) 11:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Check the article "Expert credibility in climate change" just published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (available on-line) that analyzed the prominence of climate scientists. (See commentary at Science Daily and Science magazine.) In particular: after assembling a list of 1372 climate scientists, they eliminated everyone with fewer than twenty climate publications. And still had over 900 scientists. I suggest that 1) an actual "list of climate scientists" is way beyond the scope of an article, and 2) any sublist needs stringent (even drastic) and documented selection criteria. - J. Johnson (JJ) ( talk) 20:52, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
I used to do a few biogs of climate people, especially geoengineers and scientific leaders like Katherine Richardson. You mihgt wanna add my biogs to this list. I don't know how to find the articles I've created. Andrewjlockley ( talk) 03:02, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Don't have the time to do the legwork on this at the moment, but a few folks to consider adding:
Malte Meinshausen
Ben Santer
Judith Lean
Jeff Severinghaus
Gerald A. Meehl
Reto Knutti
Steve Sherwood
And hundreds of others whose name I don't have at the top of my head... This [1] might be a useful resource if you haven't seen it already. Zeke Hausfather ( talk) 22:13, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Heh Atmoz back OFF on reverting the Henrik Svensmark climate scientist addition. Cosmoclimatology theory is as relavant as AGW hypothosis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.35.137.68 ( talk) 16:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I just added a section for surnames starting with V to include David Vaughan. However, "V" does not show up in the TOC. Does anyone know why? Can anyone please fix that? Because I sure don't know how. Thanks.-- CurtisSwain ( talk) 20:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
I find the commas on both sides of the parentheses in the current format (copied from some similar list, I think) odd. Anyone mind if I go through and change "Richard Alley, (1957- ), American" to "Richard Alley (1957- ), American" and so on? N p holmes ( talk) 06:59, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Upon reading a few blurbs, they seem to show only what these people have done as relates to modern climate, and do not summarize their notability in general. Is this good? I find it misleading/uninformative as to their scientific careers, or else I wouldn't be bringing it up, Awickert ( talk) 07:50, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
I toook out a whole pile of cruft Cla added. These people have wiki links; we don't need refs here William M. Connolley ( talk) 09:04, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
If we would ever like to nominate this list for Featured List consideration - if FL requires filling the list with cruft, then lets just not bother with FL status. Or if you have a burning desire to take some list to FL, find another one William M. Connolley ( talk) 14:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm considering removing both of these. I decided against being bold, because I came here on it being used as an example in another dispute. However the list says it's for "famous or otherwise notable persons" which makes sense since we can't list every single climate scientist in the world. And it's questionable if this applies to these two people, as shown in the AFDs. There's one more red link I'll leave in as it hasn't been tested yet. BTW, please refrain from referring to these people by name if possible. I purposely formatted this comment to make it easy to blank out the names later which I feel is for the best for BLP reasons. Nil Einne ( talk) 01:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Two names that need to be added. The article has Suyotoro Manabe but his collaborator on their seminal paper in 1967 Roger Wetherald ismissing.
Also Gilbert Plass - arguably the person who set the ball rolling on calculation of the GH effect and AGW is also missing. He has his own Wiki entry, but no entry here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glenn Tamblyn ( talk • contribs) 10:50, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Delete the dead guys from the list too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:BE21:100:ADAB:DEF0:9FE3:6BBA ( talk) 03:28, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
The list is presently heavily skewed toward scientists who are politically active contrarians against the mainstream scientific community, rather than scientists who have made significant contributions to climate science. Here, for example, is a list of the 3000+ most-cited climate scientists. -- The Cunctator ( talk) 19:06, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
How about adding some sort of code (an asterisk, for example) either to all those scientists who do support the alleged consensus on anthropogenic global warming -- or adding the designation to those who don't support that position? This would make the list doubly useful. 74.95.43.249 ( talk) 20:53, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
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User:Hob Gadling has done a good job summarizing the re-emergent NPOV problem of overweighting contrarians. See 2015 discussion above. -- The Cunctator ( talk) 23:31, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
User:Handwerker has added some names to the list today, which, by some weird coincidence, are all on the List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming.
So I made a list of names which are categorized in Category:Climatologists or its subcategories (except Category:Indian meteorologists, which is the only subcat both of this and of Category:Meteorologists) but are not in this list:
On the other hand, these people are in the list but not in the cat. Some of them do not have an article, and one of them (Bard) has one in the French WP:
Hope this helps. -- Hob Gadling ( talk) 19:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
About half of the authors publishing in the field today have East Asian names. Eg.:
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A list is good, but I am tempted to think that it would be more valuable if it was parsed into a sortable table including columns such as:
I realize that there are a great many possible variables that could be used for columns, but I perhaps just a few choice columns would already add value. Comments?
Enquire (
talk)
05:10, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
I collected some names that are not in the list, but the descriptions are still missing:
-- Hob Gadling ( talk) 12:34, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
[2] he clearly meets the basic criteria
The criteria are persons who have contributed to the study of climate science
.
Our article
Fred Singer does not mention climate in the "Career" part, except in the context of teaching. It only appeared in the "Public debates" section and in the intro.
So, @ Jonathan A Jones:, please explain how Singer has "clearly" contributed to the study of climate science. (Misinformation does not count.) Did he also "contribute to the study of oncology" by lying about the connection between smoking and cancer? -- Hob Gadling ( talk) 05:52, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
professor of environmental scienceNot a contribution to climate science.
trained asNot a contribution to climate science.
space researchNot a contribution to climate science.
involved in the development of earth observation satellitesNot a contribution to climate science.
established the National Weather Bureau's Satellite Service CenterNot a contribution to climate science.
founding deanNot a contribution to climate science.
held several government positionsNot a contribution to climate science.