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All the links are broken. I don't know how to fix them —Preceding unsigned comment added by WardenUSA ( talk • contribs) 19:17, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Still waiting for the indicators of which cast is featured in each show, as discussed at the FLC. Tvoz/ talk 03:31, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
alt=
fields in {{
episode list}}, but inserting "Goren, Eames" and "Logan, Falaaci" squishes the table somewhat. A third though was to have an extra column again, and putting the indicators in that column, with a Key to show what each indicator means. My final idea was to use [nb 1]-style footnotes, either by each episode title or in a column; this is my preferred solution.
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Still waiting for the indicators of which cast is featured in each show. How about replacing the Production Code column with character indicators? Prod code is sufficient on individual episode page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandylouise ( talk • contribs) 18:31, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Um, so the lead paragraph is like a lead article. It's huge. Can we pare it down to something smaller and concise as per WP:LEAD and move the rest of the information... elsewhere? -- Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 23:55, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Is there a particular reason that there are over 100 different references, each with a unique reference number, for specific episodes coming from the same parent website? It doesn't really make any sense to reference each individual episode's website when they are all coming from nbc.com, it seems. Just wondering... I'll be glad to start cleaning that up if it's agreed that it's a problem. -- Alan daniel ( talk) 01:02, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey Matthew - how's the reinstatement of which cast is in which ep coming along? Tvoz/ talk 1:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
File:Law & Order CI Season 8.jpg is used here but there is no non-free content rationale on the image page which addresses the use in this article as explained at Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. Either a rationale should be written or the image should be removed from this article. Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:53, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
There is a claim that season nine will be a split season. But season eight was not. And they both started in April. ??
-- MathMan64 ( talk) 06:36, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
This page has gone from something informative, professional looking and of encyclopedic value, to a disgusting mess of poorly collected fan "info". Under what train of thinking did User:Mgfan222 ever think that laying out the page like this was ever a good idea? If I'd have been editing Wikipedia at the time, I would have immediately reverted the edit. Instead, I'll do it now and follow the WP:BRD method.
Looking at the current revision, there are many things wrong with this page that can in no way be described as a " clean up" Mgfan222 urges other editors to "Please, let's keep LOCI episodes clean." Ironic, then, that the page went from a neatly presented article to a complete and utter mess.
For a long time, the page's Lede section had vital information regarding the episodes that followed the guidelines at WP:LEDE. So why was it all deleted in favour of two extremely badly constructed paragraphs? (Well, one really, and a para-sentence).
The following is an episode list for the American television series Law & Order: Criminal Intent. The series premiered on September 30, 2001 on NBC and completed 6 seasons on the network. Starting October 4, 2007 the series moved to USA where it has completed two seasons so far. CI began its ninth season on March 30, 2010.
As of {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}, 172 episodes of Law & Order: Criminal Intent have aired.
Articles do not start with "The following is an article about..." Go check any article. Dog, Hudson River, table, Walmart. None of them begin "This is an article about dogs/the Hudson River/tables/Walmart." Lists should not begin with "The following is an episode list". Any reader with half a brain knows that it's an episode list because the page title tells them. What sort of morons does Mgfan222 think read this page that they need help to figure that out?
How is that an improvement? WP:LEDE offers clear guidelines about how the Lede of a page should be constructed. It was obviously ignored because the lede did not:
All it did is tell us what day and time in the East and in the middle the new episodes aired. East and middle of where? "The series moved to USA". Big move. What country was it in before? Please, explain here how the article lets the people in India, Nigeria, The Falklands, South Africa, and Jersey know what NBC is.
Why was it using "{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}"? The page is alway incorrect because it doesn't reflect the date of the most recently broadcast episode or the most recently updated revision of the article. There's been numerous discussions at WP:FLC about using this, and it has never been acceptable. If for whatever reason no-one edited the article again for 2 years, the reader would falsely think it was up to date. See here, here, here, etc etc. In fact, this article was wrong, because on 6 April, when a new episode did in fact air, it was still saying "172", not "173".
The page violated the rules of WP:COLOR, which clearly state:
Here, it made the article look like Skittlepedia rather than Wikipedia. The colours served no real purpose, were not used to convey information, and were a contrasting nightmare. They should not be used as an attempt to make an article look Pretty.
There are five, FIVE, shades of blue, and all those blue links get lost in them because they don't stand out. The red links don't stand out against the red-shaded table. WP:Redlinks are there to inspire readers to create new articles. They ain't gonna do that if they can't find them.
Mgfan222 stated that "No other info has been added/deleted." when he/she removed 38010 bytes of information from the page, including episode numbers and replaced them with nonsense such as "07 - 73", including writers and directors of each episode THAT WERE ALL SOURCED. Mgfan222, can you explain this blatant lie that was used in your edit summary so that the page watchers did not notice your edit? Well, I guess it wasn't exactly a lie, because it wasn't until your next edit that you added an image that fails to meet WP:NFCC#8 for this page, and then proceeded to make ten more edits where you added UNSOURCED Who's Who lists of guest actors for every single episode. I recommend you read the WP:MOS, WP:LEDE, WP:COLOR, MOS:TV, WP:WAF, WP:IINFO, WP:LIST, and every other policy, guideline and essay before editing any episode list article ever again if this is what you call a cleanup.
This is the worse example of IMPROVING an article in the entire time I've been at Wikipedia, and it's an absolute horror that the page has been like this for over three months. Matthewedwards : Chat 20:44, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
What do I really need to say other than: List of Burn Notice episodes, List of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit episodes, List of House episodes, List of The Good Wife episodes, and List of NCIS episodes?
The episodes on this page should have been transcluded long ago (and I thank user:SVU4671) for doing so. Why?
What is the real difference on whether an actual table should physically be on this page or not, someone please tell me. And it better be something viable.-- 172.129.244.136 ( talk) 17:57, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
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Formal request has been received to merge the articles The Good Doctor (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Suite Sorrow, Happy Family (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Graansha, Stress Position (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), 30 (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Amends (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Seeds (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Untethered (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Senseless (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Purgatory (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Contract (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Assassin (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Last Rites (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Rock Star (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Faithfully (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), The Glory That Was... (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Family Values (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Major Case (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Revolution (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), and Loyalty (Law & Order: Criminal Intent) into List of Law & Order: Criminal Intent episodes. Proposer's rationale: These episode articles are just plot and trivia and have no reliable references indicating notability. Discuss here. Richard3120 ( talk) 20:26, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
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Did you know?" column on
March 14, 2009. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the DVD
boxsets of the
first three seasons of
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order to encourage viewers to watch season 4? |
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All the links are broken. I don't know how to fix them —Preceding unsigned comment added by WardenUSA ( talk • contribs) 19:17, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Still waiting for the indicators of which cast is featured in each show, as discussed at the FLC. Tvoz/ talk 03:31, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
alt=
fields in {{
episode list}}, but inserting "Goren, Eames" and "Logan, Falaaci" squishes the table somewhat. A third though was to have an extra column again, and putting the indicators in that column, with a Key to show what each indicator means. My final idea was to use [nb 1]-style footnotes, either by each episode title or in a column; this is my preferred solution.
Matthewedwards (
talk •
contribs •
email)
06:43, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Still waiting for the indicators of which cast is featured in each show. How about replacing the Production Code column with character indicators? Prod code is sufficient on individual episode page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandylouise ( talk • contribs) 18:31, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Um, so the lead paragraph is like a lead article. It's huge. Can we pare it down to something smaller and concise as per WP:LEAD and move the rest of the information... elsewhere? -- Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 23:55, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Is there a particular reason that there are over 100 different references, each with a unique reference number, for specific episodes coming from the same parent website? It doesn't really make any sense to reference each individual episode's website when they are all coming from nbc.com, it seems. Just wondering... I'll be glad to start cleaning that up if it's agreed that it's a problem. -- Alan daniel ( talk) 01:02, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey Matthew - how's the reinstatement of which cast is in which ep coming along? Tvoz/ talk 1:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
File:Law & Order CI Season 8.jpg is used here but there is no non-free content rationale on the image page which addresses the use in this article as explained at Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. Either a rationale should be written or the image should be removed from this article. Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:53, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
There is a claim that season nine will be a split season. But season eight was not. And they both started in April. ??
-- MathMan64 ( talk) 06:36, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
This page has gone from something informative, professional looking and of encyclopedic value, to a disgusting mess of poorly collected fan "info". Under what train of thinking did User:Mgfan222 ever think that laying out the page like this was ever a good idea? If I'd have been editing Wikipedia at the time, I would have immediately reverted the edit. Instead, I'll do it now and follow the WP:BRD method.
Looking at the current revision, there are many things wrong with this page that can in no way be described as a " clean up" Mgfan222 urges other editors to "Please, let's keep LOCI episodes clean." Ironic, then, that the page went from a neatly presented article to a complete and utter mess.
For a long time, the page's Lede section had vital information regarding the episodes that followed the guidelines at WP:LEDE. So why was it all deleted in favour of two extremely badly constructed paragraphs? (Well, one really, and a para-sentence).
The following is an episode list for the American television series Law & Order: Criminal Intent. The series premiered on September 30, 2001 on NBC and completed 6 seasons on the network. Starting October 4, 2007 the series moved to USA where it has completed two seasons so far. CI began its ninth season on March 30, 2010.
As of {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}, 172 episodes of Law & Order: Criminal Intent have aired.
Articles do not start with "The following is an article about..." Go check any article. Dog, Hudson River, table, Walmart. None of them begin "This is an article about dogs/the Hudson River/tables/Walmart." Lists should not begin with "The following is an episode list". Any reader with half a brain knows that it's an episode list because the page title tells them. What sort of morons does Mgfan222 think read this page that they need help to figure that out?
How is that an improvement? WP:LEDE offers clear guidelines about how the Lede of a page should be constructed. It was obviously ignored because the lede did not:
All it did is tell us what day and time in the East and in the middle the new episodes aired. East and middle of where? "The series moved to USA". Big move. What country was it in before? Please, explain here how the article lets the people in India, Nigeria, The Falklands, South Africa, and Jersey know what NBC is.
Why was it using "{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}"? The page is alway incorrect because it doesn't reflect the date of the most recently broadcast episode or the most recently updated revision of the article. There's been numerous discussions at WP:FLC about using this, and it has never been acceptable. If for whatever reason no-one edited the article again for 2 years, the reader would falsely think it was up to date. See here, here, here, etc etc. In fact, this article was wrong, because on 6 April, when a new episode did in fact air, it was still saying "172", not "173".
The page violated the rules of WP:COLOR, which clearly state:
Here, it made the article look like Skittlepedia rather than Wikipedia. The colours served no real purpose, were not used to convey information, and were a contrasting nightmare. They should not be used as an attempt to make an article look Pretty.
There are five, FIVE, shades of blue, and all those blue links get lost in them because they don't stand out. The red links don't stand out against the red-shaded table. WP:Redlinks are there to inspire readers to create new articles. They ain't gonna do that if they can't find them.
Mgfan222 stated that "No other info has been added/deleted." when he/she removed 38010 bytes of information from the page, including episode numbers and replaced them with nonsense such as "07 - 73", including writers and directors of each episode THAT WERE ALL SOURCED. Mgfan222, can you explain this blatant lie that was used in your edit summary so that the page watchers did not notice your edit? Well, I guess it wasn't exactly a lie, because it wasn't until your next edit that you added an image that fails to meet WP:NFCC#8 for this page, and then proceeded to make ten more edits where you added UNSOURCED Who's Who lists of guest actors for every single episode. I recommend you read the WP:MOS, WP:LEDE, WP:COLOR, MOS:TV, WP:WAF, WP:IINFO, WP:LIST, and every other policy, guideline and essay before editing any episode list article ever again if this is what you call a cleanup.
This is the worse example of IMPROVING an article in the entire time I've been at Wikipedia, and it's an absolute horror that the page has been like this for over three months. Matthewedwards : Chat 20:44, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
What do I really need to say other than: List of Burn Notice episodes, List of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit episodes, List of House episodes, List of The Good Wife episodes, and List of NCIS episodes?
The episodes on this page should have been transcluded long ago (and I thank user:SVU4671) for doing so. Why?
What is the real difference on whether an actual table should physically be on this page or not, someone please tell me. And it better be something viable.-- 172.129.244.136 ( talk) 17:57, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
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Formal request has been received to merge the articles The Good Doctor (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Suite Sorrow, Happy Family (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Graansha, Stress Position (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), 30 (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Amends (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Seeds (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Untethered (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Senseless (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Purgatory (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Contract (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Assassin (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Last Rites (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Rock Star (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Faithfully (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), The Glory That Was... (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Family Values (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Major Case (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), Revolution (Law & Order: Criminal Intent), and Loyalty (Law & Order: Criminal Intent) into List of Law & Order: Criminal Intent episodes. Proposer's rationale: These episode articles are just plot and trivia and have no reliable references indicating notability. Discuss here. Richard3120 ( talk) 20:26, 25 September 2018 (UTC)