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Leadville is -- or at least was -- the highest incorporated city in the US. Incorporation being an important part of the distinction. This has been occasionally challenged by the town of Alma. The mess is so bad now that some people consider the elevation of Leadville to be 10,430 ft, which parts of it are. Interestingly, neither the benchmark at city hall nor the one at the county court house is at either 10,152 or 10,430, so which point in particular they are measuring is somewhat of a mystery. The 10,430 mark is presumably somewhere on Leadville's eastern side.
I seem to recall the city fathers claiming, during one of the more contentious arguments, that they might just "annex Mount Elbert and finish this fight once and for all!".
http://www.mesalek.com/colo/trivia/elev.html
I noticed the variation also in elevation figures. Wikipedia cites two sources 1) www.leadville.com and 2) infoplease.com. I advocate using the "official" figure of the United States Geological Survery, which I will research. T.E. Goodwin 01:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
At an elevation of 9,927' the Leadville Airport is the highest in the United States and the 3rd highest in the world. Source: www.leadvilleairport.com
LPB/ EL ALTO INTERNATIONAL/LA PAZ/BOLIVIA | 13313' |
POI/CAPITAN NICOLAS ROJAS/POTOSI/BOLIVIA | 12913' |
JUL/JULIACA/JULIACA/PERU | 12546' |
ANS/ ANDAHUAYLAS/ANDAHUAYLAS/PERU | 11300' |
CUZ/ VELAZCO/ASTETE/CUZCO/PERU | 10860' |
IXL/LEH/LEH/INDIA | 10682' |
This section reads "Many tales from Leadville found their way into H.A.W Tabor's works." I am not aware that Tabor ever wrote anything of note. Is their any substantiation for this? Did someone mistakenly write in Tabor's name instead of that of some novelist? Plazak 17:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
How is "Leadville" pronounced? I once passed through, and recall the locals pronouncing the name differently from what I expected. -- Dan ( talk) 15:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone think the article should mention Leadville's historic nickname Cloud City? Richard Myers ( talk) 06:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
A relative who is a Leadville, CO resident told me today that the claim to the title of "Parade Capital U.S.A." was completely fabricated and added to the Wikipedia entry by a high school teacher to prove a point about Wikipedia's (lack of) reliability. I will remove this claim if it is not sourced by January 15, 2011. Engender ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:55, 30 December 2010 (UTC).
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— 174.242.240.37 ( talk) 02:18, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
The famous photographer W.H. Jackson photographed Leadville in 1890. I wonder if a gallery would work here? Photos:
I lightened the Jackson image up a bit; I might be able to improve the text (the larger text) a bit if you want. If you think I'm on the right track let me know and I can fool around with it some more.Steven C. Price 21:58, 17 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steven C. Price ( talk • contribs)
I will add to this.
Gandydancer (
talk) 17:02, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I divided it into sections with headers and it was changed back. I rather liked the headers. Thoughts? Gandydancer ( talk) 16:05, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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Colorado historian bringing stories of Irish Leadville miners to life Bogger ( talk) 07:57, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
There is a tag on the article saying that it's possible that the article has a lot of non-free material.
I ran Copyvio on the article and found that there's one page with a 93.7% violation. What's strange, though, is that it's named https://loscabosmarlinfishing.com/gznmuru/hidden-mountain-resort-cabin-4081
I wonder if they copied content from the article rather than the other way around. No idea why, based upon the page url.
The second largest potential violation is https://cumulis.epa.gov/supercpad/cursites/dsp_ssppSiteData2.cfm?id=0801478#Risk at 23%, but in the article the content is in quotes. Otherwise, I am not seeing much of an issue.
What I am wondering is:
Thanks!– CaroleHenson ( talk) 01:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
The lede properly mentions the elevation, which is over 10,000 feet. Could it also please mention that it is _cold_, i.e. something like it is, on average, 20 degrees F colder than Denver, or on average 8 degrees F colder than the next highest city of its size in Colorado, or something like that. How cool it was, when visiting in the summer, was the most striking thing about it, to me. (Or how cool it feels? Maybe it feels colder than it would otherwise, due to having low humidity due in part to thin air at such a high elevation?)
I do believe there is some true statement which should be included, that it is the highest city of its size in the U.S. or in the world. (Could it possibly be that, for the world? Kathmandu, in Nepal, is larger in population but lower, at just 4,600 feet.) Or it is the highest mining town or city of its size, or something like that.
Relatedly, it must have some statistic about it being a ski town: the highest ski town of its size, or similar. -- Doncram ( talk) 18:44, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
At an elevation of approximately 10,578 feet (3,224 m), it is the highest incorporated municipality in the United States when considering only areas with permanent residents. [1] Its post office is located at the highest elevation of any in the country. [2] Alma, which is considered a town and not a city, does not take the title of "highest incorporated city" from Leadville, Colorado. Using administrative boundaries as a measure, not settled areas, in 2006 Winter Park, Colorado became the highest incorporated town due to its annexation of a ski area. [3] Beyond the official limits of Alma is a residential area which extends to 11,680 feet (3,560 m) above sea level on Mountain View Drive; this area uses Fairplay, Colorado addresses, despite being slightly closer to Alma.
References
GR3
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).I just put in "a mile or two" based on Google maps, which I opened on the point location in Oroville, Colorado article. Then measured distance from there to a point I dropped in downtown Leadville: it was 2.6 miles but the path squiggled, so call it 2 miles. And California Gulch on the edge of bowl around Leadville is only about 1 mile. That's my derivation. I don't think it needs to be explicitly sourced, unless it is challenged, as it is factual. Or i/we could compose a footnote explaining measurement in mapping software, from which point to which point, etc. What do you think? -- Doncram ( talk) 22:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
That jumps out as quite a claim, that the newspaper was first in U.S. to have a woman reporter! Small historic newspapers are notable. There is not yet a Chronicle (Leadville, Colorado) (currently a redlink, and not mentioned at Chronicle (disambiguation), will maybe start Draft:Chronicle (Leadville, Colorado)). Have recently done other historic newspapers, including Draft:St. Landry Clarion (submitted at AFC, will go to St. Landry Clarion) and found there is a big project in Louisiana at least (by LSU Libraries) to document all the historic papers (and make their complete publications available online). Surely there oughta be sources for Leadville's Chronicle, and maybe its The Reveille': check Reveille (maybe start Draft:Reveille (Leadville, Colorado)). IMHO it is important for wikipedia to cover all such newspapers and in general all or most small news sources (like Wikipedia is a "Gazetteer" about settlements), because some of our articles cite them, and the public oughta be able to check what's known about a given source. There's an essay or two about this need. Will see what sources I can find, anyhow. -- Doncram ( talk) 22:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Hello community,
Edits previously made on Sept 8 have been restored, this time with much needed citation sources. Can anyone please help me consolidate the citation instances? I thought Wikipedia would automatically detect when the same exact ref text was added beyond the first instance. It appears that the Blair (1995) and Buys (2007) books I cited show up multiple times in the References section, which is probably undesirable.
I plan to continue reviewing books from my local libraries on the subject of Leadville and enhancing this article. I also visit Leadville frequently and have a lot of original photos I can upload to enhance the article. My great grandmother was born there in 1884.
I have a major interest in postal history of Leadville. Do you all suggest I create a separate article with this content or should I begin adding it to this main article under a Postal History section? I have a collection of many letters, postcards, and envelopes (covers) related to the town.
Thank you all! Mikepascoe ( talk) 14:18, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
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Leadville is -- or at least was -- the highest incorporated city in the US. Incorporation being an important part of the distinction. This has been occasionally challenged by the town of Alma. The mess is so bad now that some people consider the elevation of Leadville to be 10,430 ft, which parts of it are. Interestingly, neither the benchmark at city hall nor the one at the county court house is at either 10,152 or 10,430, so which point in particular they are measuring is somewhat of a mystery. The 10,430 mark is presumably somewhere on Leadville's eastern side.
I seem to recall the city fathers claiming, during one of the more contentious arguments, that they might just "annex Mount Elbert and finish this fight once and for all!".
http://www.mesalek.com/colo/trivia/elev.html
I noticed the variation also in elevation figures. Wikipedia cites two sources 1) www.leadville.com and 2) infoplease.com. I advocate using the "official" figure of the United States Geological Survery, which I will research. T.E. Goodwin 01:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
At an elevation of 9,927' the Leadville Airport is the highest in the United States and the 3rd highest in the world. Source: www.leadvilleairport.com
LPB/ EL ALTO INTERNATIONAL/LA PAZ/BOLIVIA | 13313' |
POI/CAPITAN NICOLAS ROJAS/POTOSI/BOLIVIA | 12913' |
JUL/JULIACA/JULIACA/PERU | 12546' |
ANS/ ANDAHUAYLAS/ANDAHUAYLAS/PERU | 11300' |
CUZ/ VELAZCO/ASTETE/CUZCO/PERU | 10860' |
IXL/LEH/LEH/INDIA | 10682' |
This section reads "Many tales from Leadville found their way into H.A.W Tabor's works." I am not aware that Tabor ever wrote anything of note. Is their any substantiation for this? Did someone mistakenly write in Tabor's name instead of that of some novelist? Plazak 17:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
How is "Leadville" pronounced? I once passed through, and recall the locals pronouncing the name differently from what I expected. -- Dan ( talk) 15:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone think the article should mention Leadville's historic nickname Cloud City? Richard Myers ( talk) 06:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
A relative who is a Leadville, CO resident told me today that the claim to the title of "Parade Capital U.S.A." was completely fabricated and added to the Wikipedia entry by a high school teacher to prove a point about Wikipedia's (lack of) reliability. I will remove this claim if it is not sourced by January 15, 2011. Engender ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:55, 30 December 2010 (UTC).
{{geodata-check}}
The following coordinate fixes are needed for
— 174.242.240.37 ( talk) 02:18, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
The famous photographer W.H. Jackson photographed Leadville in 1890. I wonder if a gallery would work here? Photos:
I lightened the Jackson image up a bit; I might be able to improve the text (the larger text) a bit if you want. If you think I'm on the right track let me know and I can fool around with it some more.Steven C. Price 21:58, 17 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steven C. Price ( talk • contribs)
I will add to this.
Gandydancer (
talk) 17:02, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I divided it into sections with headers and it was changed back. I rather liked the headers. Thoughts? Gandydancer ( talk) 16:05, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
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Colorado historian bringing stories of Irish Leadville miners to life Bogger ( talk) 07:57, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
There is a tag on the article saying that it's possible that the article has a lot of non-free material.
I ran Copyvio on the article and found that there's one page with a 93.7% violation. What's strange, though, is that it's named https://loscabosmarlinfishing.com/gznmuru/hidden-mountain-resort-cabin-4081
I wonder if they copied content from the article rather than the other way around. No idea why, based upon the page url.
The second largest potential violation is https://cumulis.epa.gov/supercpad/cursites/dsp_ssppSiteData2.cfm?id=0801478#Risk at 23%, but in the article the content is in quotes. Otherwise, I am not seeing much of an issue.
What I am wondering is:
Thanks!– CaroleHenson ( talk) 01:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
The lede properly mentions the elevation, which is over 10,000 feet. Could it also please mention that it is _cold_, i.e. something like it is, on average, 20 degrees F colder than Denver, or on average 8 degrees F colder than the next highest city of its size in Colorado, or something like that. How cool it was, when visiting in the summer, was the most striking thing about it, to me. (Or how cool it feels? Maybe it feels colder than it would otherwise, due to having low humidity due in part to thin air at such a high elevation?)
I do believe there is some true statement which should be included, that it is the highest city of its size in the U.S. or in the world. (Could it possibly be that, for the world? Kathmandu, in Nepal, is larger in population but lower, at just 4,600 feet.) Or it is the highest mining town or city of its size, or something like that.
Relatedly, it must have some statistic about it being a ski town: the highest ski town of its size, or similar. -- Doncram ( talk) 18:44, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
At an elevation of approximately 10,578 feet (3,224 m), it is the highest incorporated municipality in the United States when considering only areas with permanent residents. [1] Its post office is located at the highest elevation of any in the country. [2] Alma, which is considered a town and not a city, does not take the title of "highest incorporated city" from Leadville, Colorado. Using administrative boundaries as a measure, not settled areas, in 2006 Winter Park, Colorado became the highest incorporated town due to its annexation of a ski area. [3] Beyond the official limits of Alma is a residential area which extends to 11,680 feet (3,560 m) above sea level on Mountain View Drive; this area uses Fairplay, Colorado addresses, despite being slightly closer to Alma.
References
GR3
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).I just put in "a mile or two" based on Google maps, which I opened on the point location in Oroville, Colorado article. Then measured distance from there to a point I dropped in downtown Leadville: it was 2.6 miles but the path squiggled, so call it 2 miles. And California Gulch on the edge of bowl around Leadville is only about 1 mile. That's my derivation. I don't think it needs to be explicitly sourced, unless it is challenged, as it is factual. Or i/we could compose a footnote explaining measurement in mapping software, from which point to which point, etc. What do you think? -- Doncram ( talk) 22:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
That jumps out as quite a claim, that the newspaper was first in U.S. to have a woman reporter! Small historic newspapers are notable. There is not yet a Chronicle (Leadville, Colorado) (currently a redlink, and not mentioned at Chronicle (disambiguation), will maybe start Draft:Chronicle (Leadville, Colorado)). Have recently done other historic newspapers, including Draft:St. Landry Clarion (submitted at AFC, will go to St. Landry Clarion) and found there is a big project in Louisiana at least (by LSU Libraries) to document all the historic papers (and make their complete publications available online). Surely there oughta be sources for Leadville's Chronicle, and maybe its The Reveille': check Reveille (maybe start Draft:Reveille (Leadville, Colorado)). IMHO it is important for wikipedia to cover all such newspapers and in general all or most small news sources (like Wikipedia is a "Gazetteer" about settlements), because some of our articles cite them, and the public oughta be able to check what's known about a given source. There's an essay or two about this need. Will see what sources I can find, anyhow. -- Doncram ( talk) 22:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Hello community,
Edits previously made on Sept 8 have been restored, this time with much needed citation sources. Can anyone please help me consolidate the citation instances? I thought Wikipedia would automatically detect when the same exact ref text was added beyond the first instance. It appears that the Blair (1995) and Buys (2007) books I cited show up multiple times in the References section, which is probably undesirable.
I plan to continue reviewing books from my local libraries on the subject of Leadville and enhancing this article. I also visit Leadville frequently and have a lot of original photos I can upload to enhance the article. My great grandmother was born there in 1884.
I have a major interest in postal history of Leadville. Do you all suggest I create a separate article with this content or should I begin adding it to this main article under a Postal History section? I have a collection of many letters, postcards, and envelopes (covers) related to the town.
Thank you all! Mikepascoe ( talk) 14:18, 11 September 2023 (UTC)