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Is this a press release or a biography? There is an adult actress that comes up when I search this name. Same person? {BLP noticeboard}}
Sennagod ( talk) 13:05, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
AndyTheGrump When I just had googled this photographer I saw a picture of the adult actress by the same name calling herself an American photographer. That’s the confusion if same person. Sennagod ( talk) 16:21, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Bjork toured New York City in 2015 and many people photographed her at her public appearances. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sennagod ( talk • contribs) 19:42, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
The original claim was there was a fine art photograph of Bjork and Pink. If these women were indeed photographed by this person, where is the proof? Anyone can take an unofficial photograph of a celebrity. There was also a claim this artist had a piece in the White House permanent collection. I found one link that mentioned she had a piece shown at a charity function at the White House regarding flags and Haiti. Sennagod ( talk) 01:44, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
She technically took a photo of Pink without her knowledge. [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sennagod ( talk • contribs) 14:30, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
References
Her website should be an External link rather than a ref. David notMD ( talk) 10:11, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
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The page has a Shopify link to purchase clothing uses art designs in the textiles not photography.
It appears this page exaggerated on loose connections to no less six famous people, one icon is jewelry store, a famous museum, and even The White House. There are no books on this artist unless she is the Layla Love with the sticker collection book. As far as images, I noted Wikipedia shows the picture of the adult porn actress with the same name when you Google the name.
I see nothing notable about this person and I feel the grandiose claims are placed here to sell merchandise. This is a good example of an exaggeration. [1]
Sennagod ( talk) 13:59, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Here’s an example of the gross exaggerations on this page. We see a picture she took of singer Pink talking to someone at a gathering and her bio here says she photographed Pink. [2] This is the most absurd claim here. There are other tenuous claims. Sennagod ( talk) 14:28, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Three of those five articles are written by admitted friends. Two are by the same person. She. had an art show that got some coverage. How is her work notable for a biography here? There was a claim here this artist is retired as a photographer. It seems they are just beginning if their first solo show was 2018. Sennagod ( talk) 02:42, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
There’s no rationale how this photographer is notable. Is every art school graduate who gets one solo show eligible for a Wikipedia biography. Here’s another example of an exaggeration here “Since then Love has shown with Eric Franck Fine Art in Paris Photo in 2009”. The person who wrote similar info in this entry separate those 2 organizations to sound like there were 2 separate accomplishments. That makes that the 9th bogus account in this biography. That doesn’t necessarily reflect the artist although someone is doing this on purpose. Sennagod ( talk) 02:42, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
AndyTheGrump David notMD has reverted my attempts to having this biography being judged notability. Do you feel this biography without the incorrect claims warrants an entry here? Can I revert the undoing of my notability review? Sennagod ( talk) 00:05, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
References
Is this a concept? Nonprofits need to be registered. There needs to be proof or this is another bogus claim or great exaggeration on this page.
“A nonprofit organization is a business that has been granted tax-exempt status by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) because it furthers a social cause and provides a public benefit.”
https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/ Search IRS database of tax exempt organizations
Rise of the Butterfly doesn’t come up in a database of over 1.8 million recognized charities. https://www.guidestar.org/NonprofitDirectory.aspx
L.E.A.F. Foundation doesn’t appear to exist either as a nonprofit or an organisation. Sennagod ( talk) 22:22, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Absolutely not. Your link proves Rise of the Butterfly is not a nonprofit as it uses a nonprofit to fundraiser. Gloria Steinem is not a cofounder of a nonexistent nonprofit no matter where it gets printed. Her name is being used to draw attention which is a positive thing. She is being credited with being there when the photographer had the idea. [1] Show a reference of Steinem discussing this charity or project and her capacity. Sennagod ( talk) 06:26, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
I don’t need to read that as I already demonstrated I know the difference. If Gloria Steinem cofounded a nonprofit it would be on her page. This is a bogus claim and there’s not any article that could make it true simply by printing a statement without it really existing as such. I showed the way to search to verify. A fundraiser project was not even cofounded by Gloria Steinem or the press would have covered it and likely interviewed her. Sennagod ( talk) 03:58, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Your other edits were well resourced except you are mistaken here as there is no nonprofit Gloria Steinem founded with this person. It is possible they discussed their project with Ms. Steinem but there is no evidence Gloria acknowledges even this. If Steinem was involved, where is she discussing it or anyone legitimate and unbiased? Why isn’t it in her Wikipedia biography or her website biography? I suggest you reword your edit to your belief Steinem conceived it with the photographer. Even that sounds like a stretch and a celebrity name drop. Either way, Steinem is not involved based on research. Sennagod ( talk) 15:49, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
References
I contacted Thibbs, the person who created this in 2018. Stated no PAID or COI. Although Thibbs is a current active editor, declined to participate in this discussion or improve the article. I still am of the opinion that this should go to AfD rather than by picked at here. The validity of individual refs and overall artist notability can be debated there. David notMD ( talk) 11:33, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
The following sources may provide additional coverage of the subject:
Vexations ( talk) 12:18, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
See Gloria Steinem’s biography here. There’s zero articles on Gloria Steinem talking this project and the only credible claim is she inspired it or encouraged although not involved. Sennagod ( talk) 04:21, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Moronic? If you disagree you can remain civil. I challenge you to find one legitimate article or clip of Gloria Steinem discussing confounding a nonprofit. She isn’t even a cofounder of the project so anyone who namechecks her is doing it for publicity. The support and encouragement of Steinem is helpful but calling her a cofounder is purposely misleading. There are sites that celebrities can be contacted through to help fundraise. Cite error: A <ref>
tag is missing the closing </ref>
(see the
help page).</ref> One only needs to check her website to see her projects
[1] — Preceding
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19:09, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Vexations David NotMD put it back again ignoring this discussion so I undid it. Why do you think he’s trying to put false information in this biography? Sennagod ( talk) 02:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
If there is consensus that this two refs are not reliable sources, then the co-founding mention should be removed, but that does not negate mention of Rise of the Butterfly as an organization. David notMD ( talk) 11:20, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Organizations and foundations are registered legal entities. I showed the links to search for the possibility and it’s not there. A project is what we have here. This project doesn’t involve Gloria Steinem besides her being aware of the possible inception or received an invitation. It’s another falsehood or distortion as a way to use the fame and prestige of Ms. Steinem. The biography of her namesake website has no mention of any such project. It should not say she cofounded a nonprofit or charity here. The former was the longstanding edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sennagod ( talk • contribs) 13:46, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
David notMD is using a blog to prove something which doesn’t ring true. Gloria Steinem is not interviewed anywhere about this project and it was a falsehood here she formed a nonprofit. She did neither. A simple search is enough to know plus her website biography has no mention of it. That matters. Sennagod ( talk) 19:53, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
That’s absurd to pretend I am being unreasonable here. If it’s not found online and it’s significant then the person who made this biography should not put it in or they might be perceived as having an agenda. I proved this biography had 14 items of deception which I corrected. The deception could be linked to selling clothing. I suggest you stop trying to make me the subject and focus on the article. You have offered little here in discussion but impolite comments my way. Follow the rules. Sennagod ( talk) 02:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
References
Love's website claims several books, but all but one appear to be on-line free, or perhaps limited edition self-published, rather than publisher published. David notMD ( talk) 09:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
DUGGAL Visual Solutions is not a blog, so should not be deleted as a ref for being accused of being a blog. David notMD ( talk) 02:39, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Your information is incorrect. It says “Blog” at the bottom of the page and the article is searchable on the blog section. Why are you trying to put in false information to associate the subject with a celebrity? [1] Sennagod ( talk) 03:00, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
References
The subject's accomplishments are wildly exaggerated in promotional materials. For example, https://www.amazon.com/She-God-Evolutionary-Empowerment-Exploration/dp/1947637398/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Layla+Love+She+of+God&qid=1627490733&sr=8-1 says that "Layla Love’s artwork has displayed in prestigious locations worldwide, including [...] Guggenheim Museum, Museum of Modern Art (MOMA). This is simply not true. Love has never exhibited at MoMA or the Guggenheim museum. There is frequent mention of the "MoMa sponsored AiPAD", (which is a dubious claim in itself), but that doesn't make a solo exhibition, or even group show at MoMA. Vexations ( talk) 16:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Love is a photographer whose work is being noticed by some very important people. She had pieces in a Catherine Johnson-curated show at the National Arts Club and at the Collective Hardware gallery last year. The Chelsea Arts Club has offered her a show. Tiffany's has her pieces in a show that opens May 20 in Singapore. That same show was a hit in Kyoto, Japan, this year.[10] I'm still looking currently. I also found sourcing for her having art displayed at Alex Grey's Chapel of Sacred Mirrors, which as removed from the article earlier, but the source is their journal which costs $20. She was mentioned in a facebook post by Alex Grey discussing that issue of the journal though, but that can't be used as a reference. ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 17:22, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Collective Hardware is also where her art hung with all the highly famous artists you mentioned belowNo, it isn't. Got a source? Vexations ( talk) 19:16, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
This claim has been (re)added by ScottishFinnishRadish with this diff. The cited source says: "After earning degrees in journalism and visual communication at UC Santa Cruz, and Richmond American International University in London". The problem is that UC Santa Cruz doesn't offer a degree in Design and Visual Communications or journalism, for that matter. Vexations ( talk) 17:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Although she is a college graduate, with a bachelor’s in journalism and visual communication from the University of California at Santa Cruz...[11] so it seems well sourced. Are you looking at their current programs, or programs they may have had in the past? ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 17:29, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Hanging your art in places such as the learning center Open Center is not significant for a biography. This photographer appears to showing the same pieces in many places. In the art world, it’s usually not notable to be anywhere except established galleries and museums. I don’t see a solo show in any established gallery. National Arts Club is private and has nightly events which could mean the art stays up as short as one night. Sennagod ( talk) 15:42, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
In [12] Tom LaVenture, writing for The Garden Island stated that: "Love’s work would aid the L.E.A.F. Foundation to raise money for orphans in West Africa". There are at least two foundations that call themselves Leaf Foundation; the Women’s Legal Education and Action Fund (LEAF) Foundation https://www.leaf.ca/about-leaf/leaf-foundation/, and The Leaf Foundation, INC https://leaffoundation.org. That second one wasn't established until four years after the article by LaVenture, so that's probably not what [The Garden Island is referring to, but the first one doesn't work with orphans in West Africa. What exactly is the L.E.A.F. Foundation? Vexations ( talk) 12:39, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
AfD closed on 31 July 2021, with decision Keep. David notMD ( talk) 10:19, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
Copying ScottishFinnishRadish To Welljan: My position is that the Laya Love Collection should not be added as an External link because it is promotional, i.e., selling clothing and other goods. The YouTube link should not be added as a reference because YouTube is not considered a reliable source reference. The philanthropy statement "In 2016, Love, with Gloria Steinem, conceived of Rise of the Butterfly, to provide a sustainable source of funding for grassroots organizations working to fight human trafficking and help women and girls around the world recover from being trafficked." is already verified by three references.
The question of whether the mention of her dystonia merits inclusion is a separate question that can be discussed here before deciding to include it or not. Please do not re-add or delete the disputed content before a consensus can be attempted here. Repeated reversions are considered edit warring, which can lead to a temporary block of editing.
Lastly, I am asking you to state whether or not there is a personal or paid connection to Layla Love, as either/both would need to be addressed on your User page, per WP:COI and/or WP:PAID. David notMD ( talk) 07:36, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Ignore the refs list below, as that is from earlier discussions. David notMD ( talk) 07:39, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
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Is this a press release or a biography? There is an adult actress that comes up when I search this name. Same person? {BLP noticeboard}}
Sennagod ( talk) 13:05, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
AndyTheGrump When I just had googled this photographer I saw a picture of the adult actress by the same name calling herself an American photographer. That’s the confusion if same person. Sennagod ( talk) 16:21, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Bjork toured New York City in 2015 and many people photographed her at her public appearances. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sennagod ( talk • contribs) 19:42, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
The original claim was there was a fine art photograph of Bjork and Pink. If these women were indeed photographed by this person, where is the proof? Anyone can take an unofficial photograph of a celebrity. There was also a claim this artist had a piece in the White House permanent collection. I found one link that mentioned she had a piece shown at a charity function at the White House regarding flags and Haiti. Sennagod ( talk) 01:44, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
She technically took a photo of Pink without her knowledge. [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sennagod ( talk • contribs) 14:30, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
References
Her website should be an External link rather than a ref. David notMD ( talk) 10:11, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
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Sennagod (
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13:34, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
The page has a Shopify link to purchase clothing uses art designs in the textiles not photography.
It appears this page exaggerated on loose connections to no less six famous people, one icon is jewelry store, a famous museum, and even The White House. There are no books on this artist unless she is the Layla Love with the sticker collection book. As far as images, I noted Wikipedia shows the picture of the adult porn actress with the same name when you Google the name.
I see nothing notable about this person and I feel the grandiose claims are placed here to sell merchandise. This is a good example of an exaggeration. [1]
Sennagod ( talk) 13:59, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Here’s an example of the gross exaggerations on this page. We see a picture she took of singer Pink talking to someone at a gathering and her bio here says she photographed Pink. [2] This is the most absurd claim here. There are other tenuous claims. Sennagod ( talk) 14:28, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Three of those five articles are written by admitted friends. Two are by the same person. She. had an art show that got some coverage. How is her work notable for a biography here? There was a claim here this artist is retired as a photographer. It seems they are just beginning if their first solo show was 2018. Sennagod ( talk) 02:42, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
There’s no rationale how this photographer is notable. Is every art school graduate who gets one solo show eligible for a Wikipedia biography. Here’s another example of an exaggeration here “Since then Love has shown with Eric Franck Fine Art in Paris Photo in 2009”. The person who wrote similar info in this entry separate those 2 organizations to sound like there were 2 separate accomplishments. That makes that the 9th bogus account in this biography. That doesn’t necessarily reflect the artist although someone is doing this on purpose. Sennagod ( talk) 02:42, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
AndyTheGrump David notMD has reverted my attempts to having this biography being judged notability. Do you feel this biography without the incorrect claims warrants an entry here? Can I revert the undoing of my notability review? Sennagod ( talk) 00:05, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
References
Is this a concept? Nonprofits need to be registered. There needs to be proof or this is another bogus claim or great exaggeration on this page.
“A nonprofit organization is a business that has been granted tax-exempt status by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) because it furthers a social cause and provides a public benefit.”
https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/ Search IRS database of tax exempt organizations
Rise of the Butterfly doesn’t come up in a database of over 1.8 million recognized charities. https://www.guidestar.org/NonprofitDirectory.aspx
L.E.A.F. Foundation doesn’t appear to exist either as a nonprofit or an organisation. Sennagod ( talk) 22:22, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Absolutely not. Your link proves Rise of the Butterfly is not a nonprofit as it uses a nonprofit to fundraiser. Gloria Steinem is not a cofounder of a nonexistent nonprofit no matter where it gets printed. Her name is being used to draw attention which is a positive thing. She is being credited with being there when the photographer had the idea. [1] Show a reference of Steinem discussing this charity or project and her capacity. Sennagod ( talk) 06:26, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
I don’t need to read that as I already demonstrated I know the difference. If Gloria Steinem cofounded a nonprofit it would be on her page. This is a bogus claim and there’s not any article that could make it true simply by printing a statement without it really existing as such. I showed the way to search to verify. A fundraiser project was not even cofounded by Gloria Steinem or the press would have covered it and likely interviewed her. Sennagod ( talk) 03:58, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Your other edits were well resourced except you are mistaken here as there is no nonprofit Gloria Steinem founded with this person. It is possible they discussed their project with Ms. Steinem but there is no evidence Gloria acknowledges even this. If Steinem was involved, where is she discussing it or anyone legitimate and unbiased? Why isn’t it in her Wikipedia biography or her website biography? I suggest you reword your edit to your belief Steinem conceived it with the photographer. Even that sounds like a stretch and a celebrity name drop. Either way, Steinem is not involved based on research. Sennagod ( talk) 15:49, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
References
I contacted Thibbs, the person who created this in 2018. Stated no PAID or COI. Although Thibbs is a current active editor, declined to participate in this discussion or improve the article. I still am of the opinion that this should go to AfD rather than by picked at here. The validity of individual refs and overall artist notability can be debated there. David notMD ( talk) 11:33, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
The following sources may provide additional coverage of the subject:
Vexations ( talk) 12:18, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
See Gloria Steinem’s biography here. There’s zero articles on Gloria Steinem talking this project and the only credible claim is she inspired it or encouraged although not involved. Sennagod ( talk) 04:21, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Moronic? If you disagree you can remain civil. I challenge you to find one legitimate article or clip of Gloria Steinem discussing confounding a nonprofit. She isn’t even a cofounder of the project so anyone who namechecks her is doing it for publicity. The support and encouragement of Steinem is helpful but calling her a cofounder is purposely misleading. There are sites that celebrities can be contacted through to help fundraise. Cite error: A <ref>
tag is missing the closing </ref>
(see the
help page).</ref> One only needs to check her website to see her projects
[1] — Preceding
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Sennagod (
talk •
contribs)
19:09, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Vexations David NotMD put it back again ignoring this discussion so I undid it. Why do you think he’s trying to put false information in this biography? Sennagod ( talk) 02:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
If there is consensus that this two refs are not reliable sources, then the co-founding mention should be removed, but that does not negate mention of Rise of the Butterfly as an organization. David notMD ( talk) 11:20, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Organizations and foundations are registered legal entities. I showed the links to search for the possibility and it’s not there. A project is what we have here. This project doesn’t involve Gloria Steinem besides her being aware of the possible inception or received an invitation. It’s another falsehood or distortion as a way to use the fame and prestige of Ms. Steinem. The biography of her namesake website has no mention of any such project. It should not say she cofounded a nonprofit or charity here. The former was the longstanding edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sennagod ( talk • contribs) 13:46, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
David notMD is using a blog to prove something which doesn’t ring true. Gloria Steinem is not interviewed anywhere about this project and it was a falsehood here she formed a nonprofit. She did neither. A simple search is enough to know plus her website biography has no mention of it. That matters. Sennagod ( talk) 19:53, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
That’s absurd to pretend I am being unreasonable here. If it’s not found online and it’s significant then the person who made this biography should not put it in or they might be perceived as having an agenda. I proved this biography had 14 items of deception which I corrected. The deception could be linked to selling clothing. I suggest you stop trying to make me the subject and focus on the article. You have offered little here in discussion but impolite comments my way. Follow the rules. Sennagod ( talk) 02:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
References
Love's website claims several books, but all but one appear to be on-line free, or perhaps limited edition self-published, rather than publisher published. David notMD ( talk) 09:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
DUGGAL Visual Solutions is not a blog, so should not be deleted as a ref for being accused of being a blog. David notMD ( talk) 02:39, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Your information is incorrect. It says “Blog” at the bottom of the page and the article is searchable on the blog section. Why are you trying to put in false information to associate the subject with a celebrity? [1] Sennagod ( talk) 03:00, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
References
The subject's accomplishments are wildly exaggerated in promotional materials. For example, https://www.amazon.com/She-God-Evolutionary-Empowerment-Exploration/dp/1947637398/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Layla+Love+She+of+God&qid=1627490733&sr=8-1 says that "Layla Love’s artwork has displayed in prestigious locations worldwide, including [...] Guggenheim Museum, Museum of Modern Art (MOMA). This is simply not true. Love has never exhibited at MoMA or the Guggenheim museum. There is frequent mention of the "MoMa sponsored AiPAD", (which is a dubious claim in itself), but that doesn't make a solo exhibition, or even group show at MoMA. Vexations ( talk) 16:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Love is a photographer whose work is being noticed by some very important people. She had pieces in a Catherine Johnson-curated show at the National Arts Club and at the Collective Hardware gallery last year. The Chelsea Arts Club has offered her a show. Tiffany's has her pieces in a show that opens May 20 in Singapore. That same show was a hit in Kyoto, Japan, this year.[10] I'm still looking currently. I also found sourcing for her having art displayed at Alex Grey's Chapel of Sacred Mirrors, which as removed from the article earlier, but the source is their journal which costs $20. She was mentioned in a facebook post by Alex Grey discussing that issue of the journal though, but that can't be used as a reference. ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 17:22, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Collective Hardware is also where her art hung with all the highly famous artists you mentioned belowNo, it isn't. Got a source? Vexations ( talk) 19:16, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
This claim has been (re)added by ScottishFinnishRadish with this diff. The cited source says: "After earning degrees in journalism and visual communication at UC Santa Cruz, and Richmond American International University in London". The problem is that UC Santa Cruz doesn't offer a degree in Design and Visual Communications or journalism, for that matter. Vexations ( talk) 17:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Although she is a college graduate, with a bachelor’s in journalism and visual communication from the University of California at Santa Cruz...[11] so it seems well sourced. Are you looking at their current programs, or programs they may have had in the past? ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 17:29, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Hanging your art in places such as the learning center Open Center is not significant for a biography. This photographer appears to showing the same pieces in many places. In the art world, it’s usually not notable to be anywhere except established galleries and museums. I don’t see a solo show in any established gallery. National Arts Club is private and has nightly events which could mean the art stays up as short as one night. Sennagod ( talk) 15:42, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
In [12] Tom LaVenture, writing for The Garden Island stated that: "Love’s work would aid the L.E.A.F. Foundation to raise money for orphans in West Africa". There are at least two foundations that call themselves Leaf Foundation; the Women’s Legal Education and Action Fund (LEAF) Foundation https://www.leaf.ca/about-leaf/leaf-foundation/, and The Leaf Foundation, INC https://leaffoundation.org. That second one wasn't established until four years after the article by LaVenture, so that's probably not what [The Garden Island is referring to, but the first one doesn't work with orphans in West Africa. What exactly is the L.E.A.F. Foundation? Vexations ( talk) 12:39, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
AfD closed on 31 July 2021, with decision Keep. David notMD ( talk) 10:19, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
Copying ScottishFinnishRadish To Welljan: My position is that the Laya Love Collection should not be added as an External link because it is promotional, i.e., selling clothing and other goods. The YouTube link should not be added as a reference because YouTube is not considered a reliable source reference. The philanthropy statement "In 2016, Love, with Gloria Steinem, conceived of Rise of the Butterfly, to provide a sustainable source of funding for grassroots organizations working to fight human trafficking and help women and girls around the world recover from being trafficked." is already verified by three references.
The question of whether the mention of her dystonia merits inclusion is a separate question that can be discussed here before deciding to include it or not. Please do not re-add or delete the disputed content before a consensus can be attempted here. Repeated reversions are considered edit warring, which can lead to a temporary block of editing.
Lastly, I am asking you to state whether or not there is a personal or paid connection to Layla Love, as either/both would need to be addressed on your User page, per WP:COI and/or WP:PAID. David notMD ( talk) 07:36, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Ignore the refs list below, as that is from earlier discussions. David notMD ( talk) 07:39, 12 September 2021 (UTC)