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I'm quite sure that the width of the car is wrong. It currently reads 89.17 inches, which is massive; that's the size of some lorrys! According to the Autoblog article (cited as a source) the Aventador is 1.1 inches narrower than the Murcielago, whcih would put it at 79.9 inches wide (based on the Mercielago figure on it's WIkipedia page). In the absence of any other sources I think it should should be changed, but thought I better ask first. If nobody objects I'll change in the 24 hours.
Thanks, Miles.
144.32.126.11 (
talk)
16:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
...the new engine is Lamborghini's second in-house engine, replacing the first generation Bizzarrini-designed V-12 that was in use since 1963.
This was attributed to an Autoblog article, but I have read through the article twice and have not seen any statement backing this up.
Furthermore, was the design of the V8 engine, as used in the Urraco, the Silhouette, and the Jalpa, outsourced like the original V-12, or in-house like the Gallardo? If the latter, then the Aventador engine would be the third in-house engine, not the second.
Sincerely, SamBlob ( talk) 11:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
This car is described as built "using a lightweight carbon fibre monocoque". I presume that should be built "using a lightweight carbon fibre monocoque body". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 ( talk) 23:44, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
This reference shows the Aventador in third place, but the time is quicker than the second place Veyron. Something is wrong with the reference. Should we remove the information or consider the Aventador in second place? Is there another reference that is consistent? 72Dino ( talk) 22:03, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Wasn't the Aventador called "Jota" before in development stadium? (Example: http://www.leftlanenews.com/lamborghini-jota.html ) -- Daondo ( talk) 00:25, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
nope, the jota name was nothing but internet talk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.224.190.87 ( talk) 18:54, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Is the engine block alumnium? I'm assuming it is but the article says nothing on it.-- Dana60Cummins ( talk) 18:47, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone know what happened to the sound file that was linked from below the details box on the right? If it's gone for good, perhaps it's a good idea to remove the sound box altogether Methode ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:13, 26 February 2012 (UTC).
Does anyone here actually think the Aventador is just a sports car, rather than a supercar? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.91.58.31 ( talk) 23:31, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Why is the Reventon in the related section of the infobox? I know that it can be said to be a design preview of the Aventador but they share nothing, the Reventon was just an LP640 with new body panels. Mike.BRZ ( talk) 07:27, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
To the user that's insisting on adding this; how is it relevant for the Aventador article to have information about what the tuner RENM Performances is doing with it? more so in an unrelated section of the article (Engine), shouldn't we put information about the tunes by Mansory, DMC, Prindiville, Wheelsandmore too? Mike.BRZ ( talk) 19:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
User:LatestAutos has added a couple of sentences about the spotting of an Aventador J along with a citation from a blog. This seems like trivia to me that should not be included as it does not appear to add anything to the article. Rather than revert again, I'd be interested in some discussion on why it should stay. Here is the diff of where the reference was added. Thanks, 72Dino ( talk) 22:51, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
I noticed today that an IP user removed the bit about the Mansory Carbonado. I've made this talk page section so we can choose whether to keep it or delete it.
First of all, I'm the person who added it, so I don't think my opinion counts that much...but I think it should stay, because it is a unique version of the car, and it doesn't count as trivia. About it not being a factory version...well, it isn't, but why get rid of it? It's just some useful information about a "special Variant" of the Aventador. It's probably going to be an unanimous delete, but that's my opinion anyway. --LatestAutos→ • Talk plz? 18:53, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Is not a "special variant" is a tuner and tuned versions of supercars are dime a dozen, why would this speficic tune, that does not come like that from any factory and is not even that extensive deserves to be listed here while the rest of the bunch aren't? In the wikipedia articles of other sports cars only factory offical variants are listed, I don't see why that should change here. Mike.BRZ ( talk) 22:53, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Ok, there are 3 tuner "variants" already. I will remove them tomorrow if a someone can't give a good reason for them to stay. Mike.BRZ ( talk) 02:07, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
This might be years late as I never used the talk page until recently. I would not had brought this up until recently after I created the Koenig Specials article, which you could say like some media do, the Mansory of the 80s and was one of the first tuners to modify Ferraris.
This editor said it should be included "because it is a unique version of the car", well so was the Koenig Competition, a modified Testarossa. Based on what I researched, can you imagine the response Ferruccio Lamborghini got had he being still alive to see a Mansory modified Lamborghini, would it be the same Enzo Ferrari had after he learnt of the Koenigs; famously ordered lawyers to force them to remove all badges because it is "no longer a Ferrari" and threaten publishers with lawsuits if the badge and the car mingled together in magazines. If anybody else want's to think of why aftermarket tuner variant should be included, I would like to point them out to the story of Koenig and Enzo Ferrari together. Donnie Park ( talk) 22:18, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
pls add aventador roadster Jawadreventon ( talk) 22:15, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Vandalism seems to have picked up recently on this page. Should we think about getting someone to semi-protect it?-- RacerX11 Talk to me Stalk me 21:15, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
I really thnik LB Veneno deserves its own page. It has nothing to do with the Aventador!!! -- 189.54.207.148 ( talk) 13:52, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
The Veneno has its own page now. If that is a point of disagreement, then the Lamborghini Reventón page should also be deleted. U1Quattro ( talk) 17:37, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
The article says this about the name: "However, the name of the bull or mentions of his courageous fighting can only be found in the manufacturer's promotional materials or sources directly referring to them."
I've actually found sources in Spanish having nothing to do with Lamborghini that mention this bull. For example, entry 377 from 2006 in the "Bull Encyclopedia" is about Aventador [1] It states that the bull indeed fought in Zaragoza in October, 1993, and won a prize for his bravery. So it seems to me that the insinuation that the company made up the story should be amended. Albrajen ( talk) 13:36, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Per Lamborghini.com, the Aventador uses a dry double-plate clutch, not a single clutch as the article states. Footnote #16, already cited in the current article as "proof" of the single-clutch, actually validates that it is a dual-clutch when it references two rails and the gears that are selectable on each.
I'm updating the article since I posted this for evaluation almost one month ago.
http://www.lamborghini.com/en/models/aventador-lp720-4-50-anniversario/technical-specifications/ http://www.oerlikon.com/graziano/en/media/press-releases-detail/?udtx_id=8206
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.167.90.130 ( talk) 19:21, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
How do we treat this http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3527316362 ? (Note: online translation works reasonably well). It's only a user page, which is not normally sufficient for a reference. It's also possible that the two supposed prototypes are really one car that was modified slightly over time. Stepho talk 03:29, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
I have searched around for this, and although I must admit I watch the show, there doesn't seem to be evidence of this being an actual car. Where are the sources? 156.34.208.217 ( talk) 17:49, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Original Lamborghini video --> https://youtube.com/watch?v=hTIkgyGN9eo
Get your facts straight. And I don't even know who the hell Altimagayer is. 2607:FB90:2C35:FDF7:0:25:543E:5B01 ( talk) 00:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Also, YouTube is not considered a valid source of information here at Wikipedia. So it should be you who should get your facts straight. U1Quattro ( talk) 15:50, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Lamborghini Centenario and Lamborghini Aventador#Centenario have almost identical information. I propose that we do one of the following:
I'm leaning towards option 1 myself but either would be acceptable. The current duplication of effort is definitely not acceptable. Stepho talk 03:16, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Edit: On second thought, a redirect sounds good but seriously, its kind of like what the company did to the limited edition Reventon: base it off the Mercielago and call it by a different name. My proposal: Delete and merge into a section. Winterysteppe ( talk) 06:26, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Chassis, panels, running gear is all Aventador with some modifications. TBH this is no different to what they did in the early 70's with the Miura SVJ, only then they didnt try and spin the marketing to con people it was a whole new car. Nick from Cardiff. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.195.198 ( talk) 03:31, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
My Gussie ( talk) 21:11, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
The Aventador LP700-4 and LP700-4 are replaced by the Aventador S and Aventador S roadster. The proof exists on the company's website as these models are not offered there. Furthermore, the production of the Veneno has ended in 2014 and the Centenario in 2017 respectively. These limited edition specials are not being produced anymore. Any modifications to their production years should accompany a valid source. U1Quattro ( talk) 15:53, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
The last time the Veneno was considered to be split off to its own article, it was decided to keep it here. See
Talk:Lamborghini Veneno. Therefore, it would have been prudent to put it up for discussion before doing it as a
fait accompli. If it is decide to keep it split, then the old section should at least retain a single paragraph with a {{
main}}
link to the new article.
Stepho
talk
20:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
{{
main}}
is not necessary in this case, linking the articles through the "related" section of the infobox is more appropriate.
U1Quattro (
talk)
01:44, 19 November 2018 (UTC)Separate articles were created for the Lamborghini Veneno and the Lamborghini Centenarió because:
U1Quattro ( talk) 18:44, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Should we change the main photo to "SVJ" now? KiL92 ( talk) 23:04, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
Yea I was about to ask the same question,as to whether the main pic should not be changed to the SVJ? Because I've got quite a few in Nero Aldebaran. BryanSwarvorski21 ( talk) 18:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Anyone thought of making an Aventador SVJ page? And also anyone mind adding it's price to it's small section. I'm just quite clueless about editing these articles. BryanSwarvorski21 ( talk) 18:03, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Noted. And what about adding their base prices? He svj coupe and roadster and the svj63 coupe and roadster? BryanSwarvorski21 ( talk) 04:11, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Will there be any posted soon? BryanSwarvorski21 ( talk) 06:36, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
I wasn't suggesting that I could get provide them...more as to who could and how soon BryanSwarvorski21 ( talk) 06:37, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Same here, current don't have access as well BryanSwarvorski21 ( talk) 06:33, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
There are no sources in the entire article stating that the Aventador has ended production, and yet at least twice in the article it states that it ended production in 2022. Anyone have a source for this? ― Blaze Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:12, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
please make page for mansory Carbonado Apertos 2406:3003:2000:A57:B9BE:4D48:1C07:C918 ( talk) 11:22, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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I'm quite sure that the width of the car is wrong. It currently reads 89.17 inches, which is massive; that's the size of some lorrys! According to the Autoblog article (cited as a source) the Aventador is 1.1 inches narrower than the Murcielago, whcih would put it at 79.9 inches wide (based on the Mercielago figure on it's WIkipedia page). In the absence of any other sources I think it should should be changed, but thought I better ask first. If nobody objects I'll change in the 24 hours.
Thanks, Miles.
144.32.126.11 (
talk)
16:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
...the new engine is Lamborghini's second in-house engine, replacing the first generation Bizzarrini-designed V-12 that was in use since 1963.
This was attributed to an Autoblog article, but I have read through the article twice and have not seen any statement backing this up.
Furthermore, was the design of the V8 engine, as used in the Urraco, the Silhouette, and the Jalpa, outsourced like the original V-12, or in-house like the Gallardo? If the latter, then the Aventador engine would be the third in-house engine, not the second.
Sincerely, SamBlob ( talk) 11:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
This car is described as built "using a lightweight carbon fibre monocoque". I presume that should be built "using a lightweight carbon fibre monocoque body". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 ( talk) 23:44, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
This reference shows the Aventador in third place, but the time is quicker than the second place Veyron. Something is wrong with the reference. Should we remove the information or consider the Aventador in second place? Is there another reference that is consistent? 72Dino ( talk) 22:03, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Wasn't the Aventador called "Jota" before in development stadium? (Example: http://www.leftlanenews.com/lamborghini-jota.html ) -- Daondo ( talk) 00:25, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
nope, the jota name was nothing but internet talk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.224.190.87 ( talk) 18:54, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Is the engine block alumnium? I'm assuming it is but the article says nothing on it.-- Dana60Cummins ( talk) 18:47, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone know what happened to the sound file that was linked from below the details box on the right? If it's gone for good, perhaps it's a good idea to remove the sound box altogether Methode ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:13, 26 February 2012 (UTC).
Does anyone here actually think the Aventador is just a sports car, rather than a supercar? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.91.58.31 ( talk) 23:31, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Why is the Reventon in the related section of the infobox? I know that it can be said to be a design preview of the Aventador but they share nothing, the Reventon was just an LP640 with new body panels. Mike.BRZ ( talk) 07:27, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
To the user that's insisting on adding this; how is it relevant for the Aventador article to have information about what the tuner RENM Performances is doing with it? more so in an unrelated section of the article (Engine), shouldn't we put information about the tunes by Mansory, DMC, Prindiville, Wheelsandmore too? Mike.BRZ ( talk) 19:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
User:LatestAutos has added a couple of sentences about the spotting of an Aventador J along with a citation from a blog. This seems like trivia to me that should not be included as it does not appear to add anything to the article. Rather than revert again, I'd be interested in some discussion on why it should stay. Here is the diff of where the reference was added. Thanks, 72Dino ( talk) 22:51, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
I noticed today that an IP user removed the bit about the Mansory Carbonado. I've made this talk page section so we can choose whether to keep it or delete it.
First of all, I'm the person who added it, so I don't think my opinion counts that much...but I think it should stay, because it is a unique version of the car, and it doesn't count as trivia. About it not being a factory version...well, it isn't, but why get rid of it? It's just some useful information about a "special Variant" of the Aventador. It's probably going to be an unanimous delete, but that's my opinion anyway. --LatestAutos→ • Talk plz? 18:53, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Is not a "special variant" is a tuner and tuned versions of supercars are dime a dozen, why would this speficic tune, that does not come like that from any factory and is not even that extensive deserves to be listed here while the rest of the bunch aren't? In the wikipedia articles of other sports cars only factory offical variants are listed, I don't see why that should change here. Mike.BRZ ( talk) 22:53, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Ok, there are 3 tuner "variants" already. I will remove them tomorrow if a someone can't give a good reason for them to stay. Mike.BRZ ( talk) 02:07, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
This might be years late as I never used the talk page until recently. I would not had brought this up until recently after I created the Koenig Specials article, which you could say like some media do, the Mansory of the 80s and was one of the first tuners to modify Ferraris.
This editor said it should be included "because it is a unique version of the car", well so was the Koenig Competition, a modified Testarossa. Based on what I researched, can you imagine the response Ferruccio Lamborghini got had he being still alive to see a Mansory modified Lamborghini, would it be the same Enzo Ferrari had after he learnt of the Koenigs; famously ordered lawyers to force them to remove all badges because it is "no longer a Ferrari" and threaten publishers with lawsuits if the badge and the car mingled together in magazines. If anybody else want's to think of why aftermarket tuner variant should be included, I would like to point them out to the story of Koenig and Enzo Ferrari together. Donnie Park ( talk) 22:18, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
pls add aventador roadster Jawadreventon ( talk) 22:15, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Vandalism seems to have picked up recently on this page. Should we think about getting someone to semi-protect it?-- RacerX11 Talk to me Stalk me 21:15, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
I really thnik LB Veneno deserves its own page. It has nothing to do with the Aventador!!! -- 189.54.207.148 ( talk) 13:52, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
The Veneno has its own page now. If that is a point of disagreement, then the Lamborghini Reventón page should also be deleted. U1Quattro ( talk) 17:37, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
The article says this about the name: "However, the name of the bull or mentions of his courageous fighting can only be found in the manufacturer's promotional materials or sources directly referring to them."
I've actually found sources in Spanish having nothing to do with Lamborghini that mention this bull. For example, entry 377 from 2006 in the "Bull Encyclopedia" is about Aventador [1] It states that the bull indeed fought in Zaragoza in October, 1993, and won a prize for his bravery. So it seems to me that the insinuation that the company made up the story should be amended. Albrajen ( talk) 13:36, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Per Lamborghini.com, the Aventador uses a dry double-plate clutch, not a single clutch as the article states. Footnote #16, already cited in the current article as "proof" of the single-clutch, actually validates that it is a dual-clutch when it references two rails and the gears that are selectable on each.
I'm updating the article since I posted this for evaluation almost one month ago.
http://www.lamborghini.com/en/models/aventador-lp720-4-50-anniversario/technical-specifications/ http://www.oerlikon.com/graziano/en/media/press-releases-detail/?udtx_id=8206
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.167.90.130 ( talk) 19:21, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
How do we treat this http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3527316362 ? (Note: online translation works reasonably well). It's only a user page, which is not normally sufficient for a reference. It's also possible that the two supposed prototypes are really one car that was modified slightly over time. Stepho talk 03:29, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
I have searched around for this, and although I must admit I watch the show, there doesn't seem to be evidence of this being an actual car. Where are the sources? 156.34.208.217 ( talk) 17:49, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Original Lamborghini video --> https://youtube.com/watch?v=hTIkgyGN9eo
Get your facts straight. And I don't even know who the hell Altimagayer is. 2607:FB90:2C35:FDF7:0:25:543E:5B01 ( talk) 00:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Also, YouTube is not considered a valid source of information here at Wikipedia. So it should be you who should get your facts straight. U1Quattro ( talk) 15:50, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Lamborghini Centenario and Lamborghini Aventador#Centenario have almost identical information. I propose that we do one of the following:
I'm leaning towards option 1 myself but either would be acceptable. The current duplication of effort is definitely not acceptable. Stepho talk 03:16, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Edit: On second thought, a redirect sounds good but seriously, its kind of like what the company did to the limited edition Reventon: base it off the Mercielago and call it by a different name. My proposal: Delete and merge into a section. Winterysteppe ( talk) 06:26, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Chassis, panels, running gear is all Aventador with some modifications. TBH this is no different to what they did in the early 70's with the Miura SVJ, only then they didnt try and spin the marketing to con people it was a whole new car. Nick from Cardiff. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.195.198 ( talk) 03:31, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
My Gussie ( talk) 21:11, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
The Aventador LP700-4 and LP700-4 are replaced by the Aventador S and Aventador S roadster. The proof exists on the company's website as these models are not offered there. Furthermore, the production of the Veneno has ended in 2014 and the Centenario in 2017 respectively. These limited edition specials are not being produced anymore. Any modifications to their production years should accompany a valid source. U1Quattro ( talk) 15:53, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
The last time the Veneno was considered to be split off to its own article, it was decided to keep it here. See
Talk:Lamborghini Veneno. Therefore, it would have been prudent to put it up for discussion before doing it as a
fait accompli. If it is decide to keep it split, then the old section should at least retain a single paragraph with a {{
main}}
link to the new article.
Stepho
talk
20:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
{{
main}}
is not necessary in this case, linking the articles through the "related" section of the infobox is more appropriate.
U1Quattro (
talk)
01:44, 19 November 2018 (UTC)Separate articles were created for the Lamborghini Veneno and the Lamborghini Centenarió because:
U1Quattro ( talk) 18:44, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Should we change the main photo to "SVJ" now? KiL92 ( talk) 23:04, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
Yea I was about to ask the same question,as to whether the main pic should not be changed to the SVJ? Because I've got quite a few in Nero Aldebaran. BryanSwarvorski21 ( talk) 18:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Anyone thought of making an Aventador SVJ page? And also anyone mind adding it's price to it's small section. I'm just quite clueless about editing these articles. BryanSwarvorski21 ( talk) 18:03, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Noted. And what about adding their base prices? He svj coupe and roadster and the svj63 coupe and roadster? BryanSwarvorski21 ( talk) 04:11, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Will there be any posted soon? BryanSwarvorski21 ( talk) 06:36, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
I wasn't suggesting that I could get provide them...more as to who could and how soon BryanSwarvorski21 ( talk) 06:37, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Same here, current don't have access as well BryanSwarvorski21 ( talk) 06:33, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
There are no sources in the entire article stating that the Aventador has ended production, and yet at least twice in the article it states that it ended production in 2022. Anyone have a source for this? ― Blaze Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:12, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
please make page for mansory Carbonado Apertos 2406:3003:2000:A57:B9BE:4D48:1C07:C918 ( talk) 11:22, 13 November 2023 (UTC)