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Change the name of Bruce Jenner to Caitlyn Jenner because that's her name. 96.28.104.1 ( talk) 02:30, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
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Change the name of her former spouse “Bruce Jenner” to “Caitylin Jenner.” Bruce is Caitlyn’s deadname, and it is considered disrespectful to refer to a transgender person by their deadname, she also is more commonly know by her current name 2601:403:100:8B00:5C73:A7C:D01F:30DD ( talk) 03:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
Kris has 12 grandchildren. Kourtney has Mason Dash Disick, Penelope Scotland Disick, Reign Aston Disick. Kim has North West, Saint West, Chicago West, Psalm West. Khloe has True Thompson and T Thompson. Robert has Dream Kardashian. Kylie has Stormi Webster and Aire Webster. 77.100.172.38 ( talk) 22:03, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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Kris Jenner has 11 grandchildren not 10. Request this to be changed 2A0C:B381:43D:8A00:3DA2:D925:2A05:1E57 ( talk) 12:53, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
I changed the info box to represent that she married Caitlyn Jenner as that is her ex-spouse’s name. This is in accordance with the MOS/Gender identity guidelines and is the correct thing to do. Many people have made this change over the years and one user (Geraldo Perez) keeps unilaterally reverting it with no good reason. We need to do the correct thing here. Nfdgoisn ( talk) 12:51, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
I liked Bruce. He was a good person. He did a lot in his life. Oh, ‘he didn’t even exist’. Yes he did exist! He worked his butt off. He won the [Olympic] Games. He raised amazing kids. He did a lot of very, very good things and it’s not like I just want to throw that away." Geraldo Perez ( talk) 14:45, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
unless they prefer their former name be used for past events, which is evident from how Caitlyn Jenner speaks about her past self, as noted above. Crossroads -talk- 01:10, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
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Caitlyn Jenner is dead-named numerous times in this article. Fireferret012 ( talk) 19:40, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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By her mother's marriage to Harry, she gained a half-brother, Steven "Steve" Shannon.[5]
This should be changed to gained a step-brother rather than half-brother as half-brother implies blood relations sharing one biological parent. 4.36.58.88 ( talk) 22:09, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Under the section "Personal Life", there is a sentence that reads, "As of 2023, Jenner has twelve grandchildren". This should be updated to reflect that Ms. Jenner now has 13 grandchildren as of the birth of Kourtney and Travis' baby in 2024. Sconsolato88 ( talk) 23:59, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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It states Kris has 12 grandchildren, this is incorrect. She has 13. 195.213.52.126 ( talk) 21:28, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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change "has twelve grandchildren as of 2023" to "has thirteen grandchildren as of 2023" (Mason, Penelope, Reign, North, Saint, Chicago, Psalm, Dream, True, Tatum, Stormi, Aire, Rocky)
She also has three step-grandchildren 184.145.123.24 ( talk) 21:30, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
It's pretty silly the article doesn't mention her connection to the production of her daughter's pornographic film. It's the main reason for their enduring fame and multiple sources (Ray J and Ian Halperin) have indicated that she was involved in both the production and release. 73.189.18.236 ( talk) 18:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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Change the name of Bruce Jenner to Caitlyn Jenner because that's her name. 96.28.104.1 ( talk) 02:30, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
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Change the name of her former spouse “Bruce Jenner” to “Caitylin Jenner.” Bruce is Caitlyn’s deadname, and it is considered disrespectful to refer to a transgender person by their deadname, she also is more commonly know by her current name 2601:403:100:8B00:5C73:A7C:D01F:30DD ( talk) 03:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
Kris has 12 grandchildren. Kourtney has Mason Dash Disick, Penelope Scotland Disick, Reign Aston Disick. Kim has North West, Saint West, Chicago West, Psalm West. Khloe has True Thompson and T Thompson. Robert has Dream Kardashian. Kylie has Stormi Webster and Aire Webster. 77.100.172.38 ( talk) 22:03, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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Kris Jenner has 11 grandchildren not 10. Request this to be changed 2A0C:B381:43D:8A00:3DA2:D925:2A05:1E57 ( talk) 12:53, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
I changed the info box to represent that she married Caitlyn Jenner as that is her ex-spouse’s name. This is in accordance with the MOS/Gender identity guidelines and is the correct thing to do. Many people have made this change over the years and one user (Geraldo Perez) keeps unilaterally reverting it with no good reason. We need to do the correct thing here. Nfdgoisn ( talk) 12:51, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
I liked Bruce. He was a good person. He did a lot in his life. Oh, ‘he didn’t even exist’. Yes he did exist! He worked his butt off. He won the [Olympic] Games. He raised amazing kids. He did a lot of very, very good things and it’s not like I just want to throw that away." Geraldo Perez ( talk) 14:45, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
unless they prefer their former name be used for past events, which is evident from how Caitlyn Jenner speaks about her past self, as noted above. Crossroads -talk- 01:10, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
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Caitlyn Jenner is dead-named numerous times in this article. Fireferret012 ( talk) 19:40, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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By her mother's marriage to Harry, she gained a half-brother, Steven "Steve" Shannon.[5]
This should be changed to gained a step-brother rather than half-brother as half-brother implies blood relations sharing one biological parent. 4.36.58.88 ( talk) 22:09, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Under the section "Personal Life", there is a sentence that reads, "As of 2023, Jenner has twelve grandchildren". This should be updated to reflect that Ms. Jenner now has 13 grandchildren as of the birth of Kourtney and Travis' baby in 2024. Sconsolato88 ( talk) 23:59, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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It states Kris has 12 grandchildren, this is incorrect. She has 13. 195.213.52.126 ( talk) 21:28, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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change "has twelve grandchildren as of 2023" to "has thirteen grandchildren as of 2023" (Mason, Penelope, Reign, North, Saint, Chicago, Psalm, Dream, True, Tatum, Stormi, Aire, Rocky)
She also has three step-grandchildren 184.145.123.24 ( talk) 21:30, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
It's pretty silly the article doesn't mention her connection to the production of her daughter's pornographic film. It's the main reason for their enduring fame and multiple sources (Ray J and Ian Halperin) have indicated that she was involved in both the production and release. 73.189.18.236 ( talk) 18:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)