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As Wikipedia now has the capability to have quote marks in titles, I see someone moved the article from Joe King Oliver to Joe "King" Oliver. That seems fine... but the links and redirects were not changed with the move.
Should things be changed to go to Joe "King" Oliver? Or perhaps the simpler King Oliver (I don't believe there was anyone else commony refered to that way, and many pages already link to that name. -- Infrogmation 17:24, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Could someone source this please?
Although Oliver performed mostly on cornet, the instrument is virtually identical to the trumpet. Oliver is second on the historical list of the greatest jazz trumpet innovators: Buddy Bolden, Oliver, Armstrong, Roy Eldridge, Dizzy Gillespie, and Miles Davis.
What historical list? I didn't know there was a list. If someone doesn't source then I am going to come back and delete it later as POV hdstubbs
For the time being I moved this "Discography" section below to talk. It lists only the two sides issued by Autograph (good stuff, but some of the most obscure of his dozens of sides before the modern reissues). The external link gives a better idea of his recording career than this does. -- Infrogmation 23:48, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
We need to cover the fact that his gravestone says he died 8 April, but we say he died 10 April. Why is there a discrepancy? -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 10:59, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. Armbrust The Homunculus 12:56, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Joe "King" Oliver → King Oliver – This double titling is deprecated on Wikipedia, he is usually known as plain "King Oliver", which already redirects here. PatGallacher ( talk) 01:05, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Notable distinctions can be explained in the article, but avoid (for example) adding a nickname, or a contracted version of the original first name(s) in quotes between first and last name. For example: Bill Clinton, not William "Bill" Clinton." Also see Whitey Bulger, not James "Whitey" Bulger and ongoing RM discussion at Talk:Charles "Tex" Watson. — BarrelProof ( talk) 16:18, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Can anyone provide the paragraph which states that Max Roach was in attendance at King's burial? Max would only have been 14 at the time...
I have found a link to the full text of "KING OF JAZZ" which I believe is the same source cited, at it states:
"By 1935, Oliver could no longer play, but the touring, such as it was, continued. In 1936, his headquarters were in Savannah. He had not enough clothes, he was ill. Again, there was still some touring, but in his last year, he ran a fruit stand and later worked fifteen hours a day as janitor in a pool hall.
On Friday, 8 April 1938, Joseph 4 King' Oliver died of cerebral haemorrhage. His sister spent her rent money to have his body brought to New York. On 12th April Louis Armstrong, Clarence Williams and a loyal group of musician friends saw him buried at Woodlawn Cemetery, the Bronx, New York. There was no headstone on his grave. "
I don't know where the idea that any of the musicians listed in the article attended the funeral came from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.83.178.144 ( talk) 02:33, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
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In August 2016 there were a series of edits that changed Oliver's birthday as follows:
None of these edits was sourced. How can we know whether any of these edits was correct, or whether the original date of 11 May 1885 should be reinstated? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 05:25, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
I’ve added the missing citations Wis2fan ( talk) 16:11, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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As Wikipedia now has the capability to have quote marks in titles, I see someone moved the article from Joe King Oliver to Joe "King" Oliver. That seems fine... but the links and redirects were not changed with the move.
Should things be changed to go to Joe "King" Oliver? Or perhaps the simpler King Oliver (I don't believe there was anyone else commony refered to that way, and many pages already link to that name. -- Infrogmation 17:24, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Could someone source this please?
Although Oliver performed mostly on cornet, the instrument is virtually identical to the trumpet. Oliver is second on the historical list of the greatest jazz trumpet innovators: Buddy Bolden, Oliver, Armstrong, Roy Eldridge, Dizzy Gillespie, and Miles Davis.
What historical list? I didn't know there was a list. If someone doesn't source then I am going to come back and delete it later as POV hdstubbs
For the time being I moved this "Discography" section below to talk. It lists only the two sides issued by Autograph (good stuff, but some of the most obscure of his dozens of sides before the modern reissues). The external link gives a better idea of his recording career than this does. -- Infrogmation 23:48, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
We need to cover the fact that his gravestone says he died 8 April, but we say he died 10 April. Why is there a discrepancy? -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 10:59, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. Armbrust The Homunculus 12:56, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Joe "King" Oliver → King Oliver – This double titling is deprecated on Wikipedia, he is usually known as plain "King Oliver", which already redirects here. PatGallacher ( talk) 01:05, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Notable distinctions can be explained in the article, but avoid (for example) adding a nickname, or a contracted version of the original first name(s) in quotes between first and last name. For example: Bill Clinton, not William "Bill" Clinton." Also see Whitey Bulger, not James "Whitey" Bulger and ongoing RM discussion at Talk:Charles "Tex" Watson. — BarrelProof ( talk) 16:18, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Can anyone provide the paragraph which states that Max Roach was in attendance at King's burial? Max would only have been 14 at the time...
I have found a link to the full text of "KING OF JAZZ" which I believe is the same source cited, at it states:
"By 1935, Oliver could no longer play, but the touring, such as it was, continued. In 1936, his headquarters were in Savannah. He had not enough clothes, he was ill. Again, there was still some touring, but in his last year, he ran a fruit stand and later worked fifteen hours a day as janitor in a pool hall.
On Friday, 8 April 1938, Joseph 4 King' Oliver died of cerebral haemorrhage. His sister spent her rent money to have his body brought to New York. On 12th April Louis Armstrong, Clarence Williams and a loyal group of musician friends saw him buried at Woodlawn Cemetery, the Bronx, New York. There was no headstone on his grave. "
I don't know where the idea that any of the musicians listed in the article attended the funeral came from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.83.178.144 ( talk) 02:33, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
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In August 2016 there were a series of edits that changed Oliver's birthday as follows:
None of these edits was sourced. How can we know whether any of these edits was correct, or whether the original date of 11 May 1885 should be reinstated? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 05:25, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
I’ve added the missing citations Wis2fan ( talk) 16:11, 20 April 2024 (UTC)