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Hi, please change Kim Il-seong and Kim Seong-ju in the Revised Romanization Korean name infoboxes to Gim Il-seong and Gim Seong-ju, because ㄱ is romanized as "g" in RR. Thanks. 24.61.83.139 ( talk) 20:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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The 'Personal life' section lists his children with Kim Song-ae as Kim Yong-il, Kim Kyong-il and Kim Pyong-il, however the infobox (and Kim Song-ae's article) list Kim Kyong-jin instead of Kim Kyong-il. NK Leadership Watch list Kim Kyong-jin (although not the one linked to as they have widely differing birth years), however that webpage gives birth years for them all (Kyong-jin 1951, Pyong-il 1954, Yong-il 1955) but then contradicts two of them later (Kyong-jin 1953, Yong-il 1957). The Kim family (North Korea) article says their children are Kim Kyong-il (1951), Kim Pyong-il (1953) and Kim Yong-il (1955) with Time magazine as a source, however Kim Pyong-il's article lists his birth year as 1954. Abbyjjjj96 ( talk) 18:02, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
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I want to replace the 1950 portrait with the official portrait. Idonotwanttoleakmyipadress ( talk) 15:31, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80-00809A000600270269-4.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.25.210.75 ( talk) 07:28, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
It’s a marginal theory that the academic consensus soundly rejects. To add more than we already have here would create a WP:UNDUE issue. JArthur1984 ( talk) 19:02, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
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Should Il-Sung's picture in the infobox be changed to the posthumous portrait of him which was released after his death? TheSupremeMoron ( talk) 13:01, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
By the late 1950s and during the 1960s and 1970s, North Korea enjoyed a higher standard of living than the South, which was suffering from political chaos and economic crises. This unreferenced claim is blatantly false. Northern part of Korea was richer due to being more industrialized till 1948 yes. then after this monster launched the Korean war North Korea was always poorer. Though South Korea was indeed poor in 1950s had 24% unemployment rate. 126.151.199.191 ( talk) 11:52, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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Why does the hyperlink for "Great Leader" simply link to the page for Juche? If I want to know more about this epithet, the Juche page does not help. Ed8r ( talk) 00:46, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
This is a problem that I've noticed some time ago. His birth name is written here and in Britannica (from where the source comes from) as Kim Song Ju (김성주), although according to the North Korean romanization which is used in this article regarding him, it should actually be nevertheless written as "Kim Sung Ju", as this 성 is the same 성 as in his later name, 김일성, Kim Il Sung. What should we do with this inconsistency? And inb4 someone says that here we shouldn't stick to NK romanization, I'll remind you that not long ago the pages Kim Il-sung, Kim Jong-il and Kim Jong-un were moved to names without hyphen per NK romanization standards. @ Yue Adding you, because you're one of the frequent editors here. GreatLeader1945 ( talk) 09:18, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
The tumor in question is more likely to be a benign lipoma than calcinosis. However since neither can be confirmed due to the lack of evidence, the article should refer to the tumor in question without giving a presumptive diagnosis, and remove the relative link on the calcinosis page.
(Calcinosis of the neck) [3]
(Lipomas of the neck) [4]
The lesion fails to have any nodular elements via pictures, and according to current sources it is round and has grown considerably over years, which mimics a lipoma more so than a calcinotic lesion.
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Hi, please change Kim Il-seong and Kim Seong-ju in the Revised Romanization Korean name infoboxes to Gim Il-seong and Gim Seong-ju, because ㄱ is romanized as "g" in RR. Thanks. 24.61.83.139 ( talk) 20:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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The 'Personal life' section lists his children with Kim Song-ae as Kim Yong-il, Kim Kyong-il and Kim Pyong-il, however the infobox (and Kim Song-ae's article) list Kim Kyong-jin instead of Kim Kyong-il. NK Leadership Watch list Kim Kyong-jin (although not the one linked to as they have widely differing birth years), however that webpage gives birth years for them all (Kyong-jin 1951, Pyong-il 1954, Yong-il 1955) but then contradicts two of them later (Kyong-jin 1953, Yong-il 1957). The Kim family (North Korea) article says their children are Kim Kyong-il (1951), Kim Pyong-il (1953) and Kim Yong-il (1955) with Time magazine as a source, however Kim Pyong-il's article lists his birth year as 1954. Abbyjjjj96 ( talk) 18:02, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
It was originally scheduled on 17 Jul, but delayed till the 19th. Sources: [1] and [2] ZKang123 ( talk) 03:55, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
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I want to replace the 1950 portrait with the official portrait. Idonotwanttoleakmyipadress ( talk) 15:31, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80-00809A000600270269-4.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.25.210.75 ( talk) 07:28, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
It’s a marginal theory that the academic consensus soundly rejects. To add more than we already have here would create a WP:UNDUE issue. JArthur1984 ( talk) 19:02, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Kim Jong-un which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 17:31, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Should Il-Sung's picture in the infobox be changed to the posthumous portrait of him which was released after his death? TheSupremeMoron ( talk) 13:01, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
By the late 1950s and during the 1960s and 1970s, North Korea enjoyed a higher standard of living than the South, which was suffering from political chaos and economic crises. This unreferenced claim is blatantly false. Northern part of Korea was richer due to being more industrialized till 1948 yes. then after this monster launched the Korean war North Korea was always poorer. Though South Korea was indeed poor in 1950s had 24% unemployment rate. 126.151.199.191 ( talk) 11:52, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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Why does the hyperlink for "Great Leader" simply link to the page for Juche? If I want to know more about this epithet, the Juche page does not help. Ed8r ( talk) 00:46, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
This is a problem that I've noticed some time ago. His birth name is written here and in Britannica (from where the source comes from) as Kim Song Ju (김성주), although according to the North Korean romanization which is used in this article regarding him, it should actually be nevertheless written as "Kim Sung Ju", as this 성 is the same 성 as in his later name, 김일성, Kim Il Sung. What should we do with this inconsistency? And inb4 someone says that here we shouldn't stick to NK romanization, I'll remind you that not long ago the pages Kim Il-sung, Kim Jong-il and Kim Jong-un were moved to names without hyphen per NK romanization standards. @ Yue Adding you, because you're one of the frequent editors here. GreatLeader1945 ( talk) 09:18, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
The tumor in question is more likely to be a benign lipoma than calcinosis. However since neither can be confirmed due to the lack of evidence, the article should refer to the tumor in question without giving a presumptive diagnosis, and remove the relative link on the calcinosis page.
(Calcinosis of the neck) [3]
(Lipomas of the neck) [4]
The lesion fails to have any nodular elements via pictures, and according to current sources it is round and has grown considerably over years, which mimics a lipoma more so than a calcinotic lesion.