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Grammar: end of line three the phrase is "ESPECIALLY Canda" and not "specially Canada" Sani Dhlomo ( talk) 10:15, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
The article lead was extremely lengthy to be of any use and article had a tag highlighting the same. After several edits, I have moved the irrelevant details into the article subsections and summarized the content in 2 paragraphs. I have also added an update as of 2018. I would request the future editors, not to add too much material into the lead. thanks. -- DBig Xray 19:37, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
To Those Whom It May Concern,
I personally believe that this article is very highly biased in telling the true story of khalistan period. According to what I know, the khalistanis were hardcore terrorist killers of innocents and they massacred entire families of innocents in their time and much of the innocent victims of these terrorists were from their own religion, Sikhism! So I personally believe that this article here is highly biased in telling the true story of the dark days of khalistani struggle. Atleast the website admin. needs to take a look at this article. I wanted to note down my opinion about this article so after knowing the true reality of khalistani terrorists, innocent people may stay away from such bad people. That's all. Thank you. User:Wjkk20 February 15, 2018. —Preceding undated comment added 08:43, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi Elephanthunter, Can you please explain me to where do the source that you included mention that the movement is being "downplayed" in India or even hint at it. This is WP:OR and WP:SYNTH on your path. Plus the other content you added is being given too much WP:WEIGHT to be in the lede. It can be included in the article in the appropriate section. We can discuss the wording of that here before inclusion. Thanks. Adamgerber80 ( talk) 06:13, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
In early 2018, some militant groups were arrested by police in Punjab. [1] Chief Minister of Punjab Amarinder Singh claimed the recent extremism is backed by Pakistan's ISI and "Khalistani sympathisers" in Canada, Italy, and the UK. [2] There is some support from fringe groups abroad, especially in Canada but the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has declared that his country would not support the revival of the separatist movement. [3]
— [[User:DBigXray added with dif [4] and supports this version ]]
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The statement of Canada PM is added in lead as it is an important declaration of the National Policy and Canada's view point of this movement. please check WP:WEIGHT and WP:LEAD. That fact that it is there in the article body below is not enough justification to remove it from the Lead which is a short summary of the article. -- DBig Xray 09:17, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
@ Elephanthunter: Thanks for re-reading the WP:LEAD and WP:UNDUE again on my WP:Civil request. we will descuss the disputes in order. please respond immediately after the subthreads to prevent confusion.
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In early 2018, some militant groups were arrested by police in Punjab. [1] Chief Minister of Punjab Amarinder Singh claimed the recent extremism is backed by Pakistan's ISI and "Khalistani sympathisers" in Canada, Italy, and the UK. [2] There is some support from fringe groups abroad, especially in Canada but the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has declared that his country would not support the revival of the separatist movement. [3]
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Support recently surfaced in early 2018, with some pro-Khalistan groups arrested by police in Punjab. [1] Chief Minister of Punjab Amarinder Singh claims the revival is backed by a "foreign hand" of Pakistan's ISI, as well as "Khalistani sympathisers" in Canada, Italy, and the UK. [2]
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As I can see your reply above. It is clear that you consider the word "MILITANT" and "EXTREMIST" as non neutral. Please share your source supporting this claim (with link to exact policy and Reliable source). If you really are familiar with Wiki Policies this should never have arisen in the first place. Armed murderers and shooters cannot be mentioned in the article as mere Supporters. WP:NPOV does not mean Facts will be watered down in a motivated effort to make them appear more palatable. You should immediately go and read before responding Wikipedia:NPOV means neutral editors, not neutral content -- DBig Xray 07:03, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
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If you have really read the WP:LEAD as you say, can you explain (with link to exact policy and Reliable source) why you feel that CANADA PM statement about DENYING SUPPORT to revival of KHALISTAN does not deserve to be in LEAD ? -- DBig Xray 07:03, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
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During the Partition Punjab was split. Do Khalistan also seek the Punjab territory which is in Pakistan? Or just he portion in India.
Can the article be updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.168.219.54 ( talk) 13:02, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
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on what basis do you regard the sources i provided as "biased" or "unreliable"? why don't you remove the countless indian sources which are hardly reputable and should not be used as the basis for validation of any claims. so tell me, why are indian sources completely fine but others you disregard as blogs when they clearly are not — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs) 2018 June 23 (UTC)
alright that one was clearly biased and i shouldn't have used that but the express tribune article is not biased so the information i derived from that source should stay on the khalistan movement page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs) 21:08, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
@Kautilya3 on what basis is it not reliable? for that matter, on what basis are the hindustan times and india today reliable especially given the context of the article which has to be taken into account as per reliable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs) 21:39, 24 June 2018 (UTC) also, there is nothing to suggest that the tribune india or sbs australia are unreliable sources, so the removal of the edits i cited with articles from the respective websites of these two sources should be reverted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs) 08:13, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
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The article Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization mentions that Khalistan was suspended from the organization in 1995, and I'm checking around online but not finding any proof of that, nor explanation as to why that is, so if someone comes across such information, that would be good to add. Interestingly enough, Khalistan isn't even listen in the "former members" section of the UNPO's website, but I found one single .pdf on their site that appears to mention them as a member: http://www.unpo.org/downloads/Self-determination%20conference%201993.pdf
Just one interesting facet that it would be good to clear up. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 03:15, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
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Good Morning Elephanthunter, Before I respond to your above comment I need clarity on your position, so need this confirmation from you. Kindly answer.
Kindly understand that I am trying to build consensus here, so Clarify in Y/N. If in doubt feel free to refer the source and then make up your mind and get back. Based on your above answer, it looks like #1 is MAY BE and #2 Is NO, Is this correct inference of your reply? Please respond. It is easier to discuss, when I know your position clearly. You may have your opinions on what happened and what not, but ultimately, what goes into the article is what Reliable sources say, and not what you "think". The Statement that "Khalistan Movement petered out" is not what I have synthesized but based on multiple neutral sources neither related to India or Khalistan. [1] [2] -- DBig Xray 20:33, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
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Kindly stay focussed on the topic of the discussion, whenever you are in doubt about the topic of the discussion, kindly refer to the subheading and then reply to the point on the 3 subheadings. I will ignore anything not to the topic of this sub heading. For Q1. I cannot move ahead with a MAYBE. it has to be a Y or N. Your response is amusing to me. that the Movement has petered out in 1990s This is either a fact or it is not. There is no such grey area. I have already shared my sources claiming it to be a fact which you seem to be opposing, if you are claiming that the movement did not petered out and continued as it is , I would need Neutral reliable sources saying that. none of the sources you shared above say what I am asking here. -- DBig Xray 08:40, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
We have clear disagreements on several points. and I would like to resolve them step by step. The settlement of the summary will obviously be the final step of this discussion. We are stalled here, because I asked a Question Do you agree that the Movement has petered out in 1990s. (Y/N). I have shared my sources. You refuse to say Yes and agree to it, and yet you are unable to present any verifiable WP:RS to back up your claims that says otherwise. How can we resolve this dispute without a source backing up your claims ? You should be well aware of Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth -- DBig Xray 19:55, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
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The Khalistan movement is a
Sikh separatist movement, which seeks to create a separate country called Khalistān (
Punjabi: ਖ਼ਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ, "The
Land of the
Pure") in the
Punjab region of
South Asia to serve as a homeland for Sikhs flourishing in the Indian
state of Punjab, which has a
Sikh-majority population and has been the traditional homeland of the Sikh religion.
Please change to
The Khalistan movement is a
Sikh separatist movement, which seeks to create a separate country called Khalistān (
Punjabi: ਖ਼ਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ, "The
Land of the
Pure") in the
Punjab region of
South Asia to serve as a homeland for Sikhs.
Kindly remove the text from the first few lines in the LEAD that says, "flourishing in the Indian state of Punjab, which has a Sikh-majority population and has been the traditional homeland of the Sikh religion, This text was added by this edit [1] . requesting the removal as this is incorrect and source misrepresentation of the ref wrongly added by the new editor. DBig Xray 18:35, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
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The percentage of Sikh population in Punjab has registered a decline from 59.9% to 57.69%, even though the total population of the community has gone up.
The Khalistan movement is a Sikh separatist movement, which seeks to create a separate country called Khalistān ( Punjabi: ਖ਼ਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ, "The Land of the Pure") in the Punjab region of South Asia to serve as a homeland for Sikhs. Punjab has a Sikh-majority population [1] and was at one point part of the Sikh Empire.
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The percentage of Sikh population in Punjab has registered a decline from 59.9% to 57.69%, even though the total population of the community has gone up.
No, I disagree. What is your logic for adding the extra parts. in your version above ?
The proposed Khalistan is purported to be a homeland for Sikhs all over the world and not just Indian Punjab. Indian Punjab having a sikh majority is an irrelevant trivia and being added unnecessarily here. Khalistan includes Punjab kingdom which is a much larger area than the current Indian punjab. you here are supporting addition of unnecessary texts that does not acurately represent Khalistan. The below version free of the addition is quite accurate.
The Khalistan movement is a
Sikh separatist movement, which seeks to create a separate country called Khalistān (
Punjabi: ਖ਼ਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ, "The
Land of the
Pure") in the
Punjab region of
South Asia to serve as a homeland for Sikhs.
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Xray
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Undue weight can be given in several ways, including but not limited to depth of detail, quantity of text, prominence of placement, and juxtaposition of statements. So, to introduce a factoid of Indian Punjab, you need to state how it is relevant to the topic. Moreover, in a LEAD, that relevance should be obvious to the reader. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 01:00, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
By adding this UNDUE trivia Punjab has a Sikh-majority population and was at one point part of the Sikh Empire you are only confusing the reader with factually incorrect statement. Punjab (as far as Khalistan is concerned ) means Punjab Kingdom, You are trying to falsely imply that Punjab Kingdom has a sikh Majority population, which is factually wrong. I would have agreed with your reason above if Punjab of Khalistan meant Punjab (india) but it is not hence your arguement is moot. -- DBig Xray 08:10, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
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Grammar: end of line three the phrase is "ESPECIALLY Canda" and not "specially Canada" Sani Dhlomo ( talk) 10:15, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
The article lead was extremely lengthy to be of any use and article had a tag highlighting the same. After several edits, I have moved the irrelevant details into the article subsections and summarized the content in 2 paragraphs. I have also added an update as of 2018. I would request the future editors, not to add too much material into the lead. thanks. -- DBig Xray 19:37, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
To Those Whom It May Concern,
I personally believe that this article is very highly biased in telling the true story of khalistan period. According to what I know, the khalistanis were hardcore terrorist killers of innocents and they massacred entire families of innocents in their time and much of the innocent victims of these terrorists were from their own religion, Sikhism! So I personally believe that this article here is highly biased in telling the true story of the dark days of khalistani struggle. Atleast the website admin. needs to take a look at this article. I wanted to note down my opinion about this article so after knowing the true reality of khalistani terrorists, innocent people may stay away from such bad people. That's all. Thank you. User:Wjkk20 February 15, 2018. —Preceding undated comment added 08:43, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi Elephanthunter, Can you please explain me to where do the source that you included mention that the movement is being "downplayed" in India or even hint at it. This is WP:OR and WP:SYNTH on your path. Plus the other content you added is being given too much WP:WEIGHT to be in the lede. It can be included in the article in the appropriate section. We can discuss the wording of that here before inclusion. Thanks. Adamgerber80 ( talk) 06:13, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
In early 2018, some militant groups were arrested by police in Punjab. [1] Chief Minister of Punjab Amarinder Singh claimed the recent extremism is backed by Pakistan's ISI and "Khalistani sympathisers" in Canada, Italy, and the UK. [2] There is some support from fringe groups abroad, especially in Canada but the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has declared that his country would not support the revival of the separatist movement. [3]
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The statement of Canada PM is added in lead as it is an important declaration of the National Policy and Canada's view point of this movement. please check WP:WEIGHT and WP:LEAD. That fact that it is there in the article body below is not enough justification to remove it from the Lead which is a short summary of the article. -- DBig Xray 09:17, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
@ Elephanthunter: Thanks for re-reading the WP:LEAD and WP:UNDUE again on my WP:Civil request. we will descuss the disputes in order. please respond immediately after the subthreads to prevent confusion.
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In early 2018, some militant groups were arrested by police in Punjab. [1] Chief Minister of Punjab Amarinder Singh claimed the recent extremism is backed by Pakistan's ISI and "Khalistani sympathisers" in Canada, Italy, and the UK. [2] There is some support from fringe groups abroad, especially in Canada but the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has declared that his country would not support the revival of the separatist movement. [3]
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Support recently surfaced in early 2018, with some pro-Khalistan groups arrested by police in Punjab. [1] Chief Minister of Punjab Amarinder Singh claims the revival is backed by a "foreign hand" of Pakistan's ISI, as well as "Khalistani sympathisers" in Canada, Italy, and the UK. [2]
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As I can see your reply above. It is clear that you consider the word "MILITANT" and "EXTREMIST" as non neutral. Please share your source supporting this claim (with link to exact policy and Reliable source). If you really are familiar with Wiki Policies this should never have arisen in the first place. Armed murderers and shooters cannot be mentioned in the article as mere Supporters. WP:NPOV does not mean Facts will be watered down in a motivated effort to make them appear more palatable. You should immediately go and read before responding Wikipedia:NPOV means neutral editors, not neutral content -- DBig Xray 07:03, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
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If you have really read the WP:LEAD as you say, can you explain (with link to exact policy and Reliable source) why you feel that CANADA PM statement about DENYING SUPPORT to revival of KHALISTAN does not deserve to be in LEAD ? -- DBig Xray 07:03, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
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During the Partition Punjab was split. Do Khalistan also seek the Punjab territory which is in Pakistan? Or just he portion in India.
Can the article be updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.168.219.54 ( talk) 13:02, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
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on what basis do you regard the sources i provided as "biased" or "unreliable"? why don't you remove the countless indian sources which are hardly reputable and should not be used as the basis for validation of any claims. so tell me, why are indian sources completely fine but others you disregard as blogs when they clearly are not — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs) 2018 June 23 (UTC)
alright that one was clearly biased and i shouldn't have used that but the express tribune article is not biased so the information i derived from that source should stay on the khalistan movement page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs) 21:08, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
@Kautilya3 on what basis is it not reliable? for that matter, on what basis are the hindustan times and india today reliable especially given the context of the article which has to be taken into account as per reliable source? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs) 21:39, 24 June 2018 (UTC) also, there is nothing to suggest that the tribune india or sbs australia are unreliable sources, so the removal of the edits i cited with articles from the respective websites of these two sources should be reverted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gangadesh721 ( talk • contribs) 08:13, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
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The article Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization mentions that Khalistan was suspended from the organization in 1995, and I'm checking around online but not finding any proof of that, nor explanation as to why that is, so if someone comes across such information, that would be good to add. Interestingly enough, Khalistan isn't even listen in the "former members" section of the UNPO's website, but I found one single .pdf on their site that appears to mention them as a member: http://www.unpo.org/downloads/Self-determination%20conference%201993.pdf
Just one interesting facet that it would be good to clear up. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 03:15, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
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-- Elephanthunter ( talk) 17:20, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Good Morning Elephanthunter, Before I respond to your above comment I need clarity on your position, so need this confirmation from you. Kindly answer.
Kindly understand that I am trying to build consensus here, so Clarify in Y/N. If in doubt feel free to refer the source and then make up your mind and get back. Based on your above answer, it looks like #1 is MAY BE and #2 Is NO, Is this correct inference of your reply? Please respond. It is easier to discuss, when I know your position clearly. You may have your opinions on what happened and what not, but ultimately, what goes into the article is what Reliable sources say, and not what you "think". The Statement that "Khalistan Movement petered out" is not what I have synthesized but based on multiple neutral sources neither related to India or Khalistan. [1] [2] -- DBig Xray 20:33, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
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Kindly stay focussed on the topic of the discussion, whenever you are in doubt about the topic of the discussion, kindly refer to the subheading and then reply to the point on the 3 subheadings. I will ignore anything not to the topic of this sub heading. For Q1. I cannot move ahead with a MAYBE. it has to be a Y or N. Your response is amusing to me. that the Movement has petered out in 1990s This is either a fact or it is not. There is no such grey area. I have already shared my sources claiming it to be a fact which you seem to be opposing, if you are claiming that the movement did not petered out and continued as it is , I would need Neutral reliable sources saying that. none of the sources you shared above say what I am asking here. -- DBig Xray 08:40, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
We have clear disagreements on several points. and I would like to resolve them step by step. The settlement of the summary will obviously be the final step of this discussion. We are stalled here, because I asked a Question Do you agree that the Movement has petered out in 1990s. (Y/N). I have shared my sources. You refuse to say Yes and agree to it, and yet you are unable to present any verifiable WP:RS to back up your claims that says otherwise. How can we resolve this dispute without a source backing up your claims ? You should be well aware of Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth -- DBig Xray 19:55, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
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The Khalistan movement is a
Sikh separatist movement, which seeks to create a separate country called Khalistān (
Punjabi: ਖ਼ਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ, "The
Land of the
Pure") in the
Punjab region of
South Asia to serve as a homeland for Sikhs flourishing in the Indian
state of Punjab, which has a
Sikh-majority population and has been the traditional homeland of the Sikh religion.
Please change to
The Khalistan movement is a
Sikh separatist movement, which seeks to create a separate country called Khalistān (
Punjabi: ਖ਼ਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ, "The
Land of the
Pure") in the
Punjab region of
South Asia to serve as a homeland for Sikhs.
Kindly remove the text from the first few lines in the LEAD that says, "flourishing in the Indian state of Punjab, which has a Sikh-majority population and has been the traditional homeland of the Sikh religion, This text was added by this edit [1] . requesting the removal as this is incorrect and source misrepresentation of the ref wrongly added by the new editor. DBig Xray 18:35, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
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The percentage of Sikh population in Punjab has registered a decline from 59.9% to 57.69%, even though the total population of the community has gone up.
The Khalistan movement is a Sikh separatist movement, which seeks to create a separate country called Khalistān ( Punjabi: ਖ਼ਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ, "The Land of the Pure") in the Punjab region of South Asia to serve as a homeland for Sikhs. Punjab has a Sikh-majority population [1] and was at one point part of the Sikh Empire.
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The percentage of Sikh population in Punjab has registered a decline from 59.9% to 57.69%, even though the total population of the community has gone up.
No, I disagree. What is your logic for adding the extra parts. in your version above ?
The proposed Khalistan is purported to be a homeland for Sikhs all over the world and not just Indian Punjab. Indian Punjab having a sikh majority is an irrelevant trivia and being added unnecessarily here. Khalistan includes Punjab kingdom which is a much larger area than the current Indian punjab. you here are supporting addition of unnecessary texts that does not acurately represent Khalistan. The below version free of the addition is quite accurate.
The Khalistan movement is a
Sikh separatist movement, which seeks to create a separate country called Khalistān (
Punjabi: ਖ਼ਾਲਿਸਤਾਨ, "The
Land of the
Pure") in the
Punjab region of
South Asia to serve as a homeland for Sikhs.
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Xray
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Undue weight can be given in several ways, including but not limited to depth of detail, quantity of text, prominence of placement, and juxtaposition of statements. So, to introduce a factoid of Indian Punjab, you need to state how it is relevant to the topic. Moreover, in a LEAD, that relevance should be obvious to the reader. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 01:00, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
By adding this UNDUE trivia Punjab has a Sikh-majority population and was at one point part of the Sikh Empire you are only confusing the reader with factually incorrect statement. Punjab (as far as Khalistan is concerned ) means Punjab Kingdom, You are trying to falsely imply that Punjab Kingdom has a sikh Majority population, which is factually wrong. I would have agreed with your reason above if Punjab of Khalistan meant Punjab (india) but it is not hence your arguement is moot. -- DBig Xray 08:10, 5 July 2018 (UTC)