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Did you know... that the Keweenaw Brewing Company's most popular beer gets its "widow maker" nickname from a dangerous drill once used to mine copper?
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... that the Keweenaw Brewing Company is the largest brewery in the
Upper Peninsula of Michigan? Source: "Most craft beer drinkers have heard of Keweenaw Brewing; it's the U.P.'s largest brewery, producing more than 11,000 barrels in 2018, according to state tax data."
[1]
ALT1:... that the Keweenaw Brewing Company's most popular beer gets its "widow maker" nickname from a dangerous drill once used to mine copper? Source: Magnaghi, p. 88. Not online, but here's a quote (yes, the comma after "ale" is in the original): "Widow Maker Black Ale, refers to the one-man mining drill or "widow maker" so feared by copper miners."
Overall: All points check out, Earwig is happy, and both hooks are cited, ready to go. I think the main hook is okay, the source is dated December 2019, which is pretty recent. It says this was the largest brewery in 2018, and the second largest was some way behind. In theory, they could have changed places by now? But the source confirms the hook. In any event, ALT1 is hookier.
Moonraker (
talk) 05:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks,
Moonraker! While it's possible that they've switched positions, we wouldn't know that until the next round of tax data is released—what's in the article is the most recent data that is available. (Beyond that, but on a bit of an original research tangent, Keweenaw has a much wider distribution area outside the state of Michigan, which would widen the disparity.)
Ed[talk][majestic titan] 05:54, 19 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Ready to go, but as explained I have a firm preference for ALT1.
Moonraker (
talk) 02:47, 24 May 2020 (UTC)reply
GA Review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hello again! I am back to finish off the trilogy of breweries. 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (
💬) 17:56, 20 January 2023 (UTC)reply
That should be all! As always, please ping me once you have addressed my concerns so that I can know when to reevaluate. Thanks, 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (
💬) 18:53, 20 January 2023 (UTC)reply
@
The ed17: just making sure you are still aware of this :) 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (
💬) 02:29, 24 January 2023 (UTC)reply
@
LunaEatsTuna: I am! Sorry for the delay -- I just haven't been able to carve out a block of uninterrupted time to work through your very welcome comments. :-)
Ed[talk][majestic titan] 04:05, 24 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks for all the changes! I am now pleased to pass this article for GA status. Congrats on yet another fantastic article! 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (
💬) 17:25, 25 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Copyvio check
Earwig says good to go. No concerns from me either.
Files
The image is relevant and problem-free:
File:Keweenaw Brewing Company logo.jpg: good, valid non-free reuse rationale—displayed in low resolution.
Prose
I think the lead could be expanded slightly, maybe by adding a couple of key points in the KBC's history?
There is enough information for me to justify adding an infobox.
In the lead, the sentence starting "It is named for the detached Keweenaw Peninsula" is not mentioned in the body.
Wikilink Denver, Colorado.
"despite not serving food." – why would this not make it successful; is food often served at other breweries?
"In 2007, the brewpub" – wikilink brewpub.
The efn note: "while a news article in 2014" – I would name the publication.
"They began canning their beer in the same year," – recommend "They began canning their beer that same year,"
"the brewing company inked a deal with" – is inked correct? I personally have not heard of the word.
Could Recognition and beer be expanded upon at all? It is a fairly short section, and for a brewer of this size I wonder if there has been anymore coverage elsewhere. Relatedly;
The last major addition was added in July 2021. Have there been any updates since then?
Refs
All sources are RS. Two URLs are links to YouTube videos, however their uploaders are RS news outlets. Passes spotcheck—no concerns with refs 2, 8, 9, 12, 14 or 17.
Hello again
LunaEatsTuna! As before, I appreciate the thorough review. I've completed my responses to your points with points or exceptions noted below.
On the name, it's a bit of
WP:SKYISBLUE#Citing everything territory for me. I haven't seen a reference that pinpoints the origin of the name, unlike
Blackrocks Brewery or
Ore Dock Brewing Company, but at the same time neither of those two are named for the rather large geographic region they inhabit. (That's probably why no one's seen fit to spell it out.) I'm happy to remove this if you insist.
Re: recognition and beer, I wish! My theory—unconfirmed—is that Houghton gets a bit of a short stick when it comes to local media coverage. All the large media outlets in the Upper Peninsula are headquartered in Marquette, the largest city in the region, and that same place is a shorter drive for Lower Peninsula news outlets. And for brewery-specific coverage, Blackrocks' brews have long been more of a cult favorite.
That aside, I've added a quote from Blackrocks' founders, who credit Keweenaw with blazing a trail that they were able to follow. I've also added a list of their core beers, using an older source for the names and a so-so source to confirm that it's still true even a decade later. Every other beer review that I can find online is less reliable than that; unfortunately Keweenaw hasn't been named as an MLive "beer of the week" or similar.
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
A fact from Keweenaw Brewing Company appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 June 2020 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the Keweenaw Brewing Company's most popular beer gets its "widow maker" nickname from a dangerous drill once used to mine copper?
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Beer,
Brewery, and
Pub related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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... that the Keweenaw Brewing Company is the largest brewery in the
Upper Peninsula of Michigan? Source: "Most craft beer drinkers have heard of Keweenaw Brewing; it's the U.P.'s largest brewery, producing more than 11,000 barrels in 2018, according to state tax data."
[1]
ALT1:... that the Keweenaw Brewing Company's most popular beer gets its "widow maker" nickname from a dangerous drill once used to mine copper? Source: Magnaghi, p. 88. Not online, but here's a quote (yes, the comma after "ale" is in the original): "Widow Maker Black Ale, refers to the one-man mining drill or "widow maker" so feared by copper miners."
Overall: All points check out, Earwig is happy, and both hooks are cited, ready to go. I think the main hook is okay, the source is dated December 2019, which is pretty recent. It says this was the largest brewery in 2018, and the second largest was some way behind. In theory, they could have changed places by now? But the source confirms the hook. In any event, ALT1 is hookier.
Moonraker (
talk) 05:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Thanks,
Moonraker! While it's possible that they've switched positions, we wouldn't know that until the next round of tax data is released—what's in the article is the most recent data that is available. (Beyond that, but on a bit of an original research tangent, Keweenaw has a much wider distribution area outside the state of Michigan, which would widen the disparity.)
Ed[talk][majestic titan] 05:54, 19 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Ready to go, but as explained I have a firm preference for ALT1.
Moonraker (
talk) 02:47, 24 May 2020 (UTC)reply
GA Review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hello again! I am back to finish off the trilogy of breweries. 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (
💬) 17:56, 20 January 2023 (UTC)reply
That should be all! As always, please ping me once you have addressed my concerns so that I can know when to reevaluate. Thanks, 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (
💬) 18:53, 20 January 2023 (UTC)reply
@
The ed17: just making sure you are still aware of this :) 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (
💬) 02:29, 24 January 2023 (UTC)reply
@
LunaEatsTuna: I am! Sorry for the delay -- I just haven't been able to carve out a block of uninterrupted time to work through your very welcome comments. :-)
Ed[talk][majestic titan] 04:05, 24 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Thanks for all the changes! I am now pleased to pass this article for GA status. Congrats on yet another fantastic article! 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (
💬) 17:25, 25 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Copyvio check
Earwig says good to go. No concerns from me either.
Files
The image is relevant and problem-free:
File:Keweenaw Brewing Company logo.jpg: good, valid non-free reuse rationale—displayed in low resolution.
Prose
I think the lead could be expanded slightly, maybe by adding a couple of key points in the KBC's history?
There is enough information for me to justify adding an infobox.
In the lead, the sentence starting "It is named for the detached Keweenaw Peninsula" is not mentioned in the body.
Wikilink Denver, Colorado.
"despite not serving food." – why would this not make it successful; is food often served at other breweries?
"In 2007, the brewpub" – wikilink brewpub.
The efn note: "while a news article in 2014" – I would name the publication.
"They began canning their beer in the same year," – recommend "They began canning their beer that same year,"
"the brewing company inked a deal with" – is inked correct? I personally have not heard of the word.
Could Recognition and beer be expanded upon at all? It is a fairly short section, and for a brewer of this size I wonder if there has been anymore coverage elsewhere. Relatedly;
The last major addition was added in July 2021. Have there been any updates since then?
Refs
All sources are RS. Two URLs are links to YouTube videos, however their uploaders are RS news outlets. Passes spotcheck—no concerns with refs 2, 8, 9, 12, 14 or 17.
Hello again
LunaEatsTuna! As before, I appreciate the thorough review. I've completed my responses to your points with points or exceptions noted below.
On the name, it's a bit of
WP:SKYISBLUE#Citing everything territory for me. I haven't seen a reference that pinpoints the origin of the name, unlike
Blackrocks Brewery or
Ore Dock Brewing Company, but at the same time neither of those two are named for the rather large geographic region they inhabit. (That's probably why no one's seen fit to spell it out.) I'm happy to remove this if you insist.
Re: recognition and beer, I wish! My theory—unconfirmed—is that Houghton gets a bit of a short stick when it comes to local media coverage. All the large media outlets in the Upper Peninsula are headquartered in Marquette, the largest city in the region, and that same place is a shorter drive for Lower Peninsula news outlets. And for brewery-specific coverage, Blackrocks' brews have long been more of a cult favorite.
That aside, I've added a quote from Blackrocks' founders, who credit Keweenaw with blazing a trail that they were able to follow. I've also added a list of their core beers, using an older source for the names and a so-so source to confirm that it's still true even a decade later. Every other beer review that I can find online is less reliable than that; unfortunately Keweenaw hasn't been named as an MLive "beer of the week" or similar.
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.