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As I remember, Ken Dodd did several TV series in the 1970s - if anyone has any details about them, they'd certainly be worth adding to the article, please! New Thought 20:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
One was definitely called "Funny You Should Say That !" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.198.251.30 ( talk) 21:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I'll say it just once - Billy Crystal plays the gravedigger. Ken Dodd plays Yorick in silent flashback. This is confirmed by the film credits as well as the director's commentary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.150.143.180 ( talk) 16:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
IMDB lists Ken Dodd as playing Yorick, not either of the two grave diggers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.177.3 ( talk) 23:08, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't Ken Dodd have some sort of project to perform at every theatre in the UK or something? Worth a mention. Cutler 11:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
And at nearly eighty the finest stand-up in the country
Sir Ken Dodd still tours the Uk to different theatres which are always filled every night. If you get the chance.. go see him. Amazingly funny!! Adam Kiel Moore ( talk) 12:41, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
There are a few qoutes that are not cited, and some of it reads like an autobiography, hence the cleanup tag.
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I don't feel that the image of Ken Dodd on this page is a true representation of what he looks like.
It shocked me at first, I saw him last year and I'm sure he hasnt aged this much.
Does anybody else share the same opinion? Matty2002 ( talk) 21:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
The link to the 'didtheydie' page is completly unnecassary and does not contribute to the article. Therefore, I am removing it. 86.20.115.233 ( talk) 15:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Is there really a Ken Dodd single called "Ken Dodd's dad's dogs dead"? I think there's a band of that name. Can we have a reference? -- Frumpo ( talk) 13:45, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
I saw Ken in Blackpool 07/11/2011 and accordingly this article needs updating to show he is active at the end of 2011. He came on at about 19:15 and fininshed at 01:00 the next morning. He had three breaks during the show and seemed to have more as much energy when he finished as when he started. 94.5.82.107 ( talk) 12:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
I agree. He thrives on simply making people laugh and enjoys it so much it seems to take away the years and you see him seem to grow on stage and the energy flow into him. At 89 and still doing the shows i think everytime i see him its almost unbelievable. I've now seen him 3times and he is like a tonic for life and such a priveledge to see. Long may he go on. Adam Kiel Moore ( talk) 12:49, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
This statistic seems unlikely given that his best-selling song sold only c.1 million copies, and it seems likely that few other songs of his sold anything like this given that they were much further down the charts. The source is an obscure local paper. Also note Dodd is not listed anywhere in List of best-selling music artists. Ben Finn ( talk) 11:56, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Around 1960, I remember seeing Ken Dodd on TV a number of times and in a separate part of the screen on his right, so our left, were tiny cartoon men (black and white, as the show itself was) who spoke in squeaky voices. They were his Diddy Men, Diddy I suppose meaning small, and he talked to and interacted with them. ( 178.236.117.122 ( talk) 08:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC))
Not sure how many assertions in this article are wrong, but this one is for sure:
In the 1960s his fame was such that he rivalled <sic> the Beatles as a household name.[1]
I suspect some of the record sales statements are incorrect as well. Not a lot of harm in these errors, but it is a little confounding (a little like reading an assertion that the sky is red when it is easy to verify it is not red, and no citation is needed). Few in North America, South America, or Europe had not heard of the Beatles. Lennon's faux pas that they were more popular than Jesus was reflective of their reach even if it was politically incorrect to say it publicly. Perhaps Dodd's popularity rivaled the Beatles in parts of England, Scotland and Wales? N0w8st8s ( talk) 17:40, 2 June 2014 (UTC)n0w8st8s
This article says that "Tears" was the third best-selling single of the 1960s, but I am sure that I heard on the radio tonight (February 11 2018) that it was the fifth best-selling single, after numbers that were all Beatles songs. Vorbee ( talk) 18:43, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
He did not perform in 2018. ( 86.133.85.74 ( talk) 12:30, 12 March 2018 (UTC))
I dont have time atm, but the below has been removed as lacking explicit sourcing. If anyone can quickly source it, replace it back in an appropriate section.
The shows that Dodd has starred in included:
The Ken Dodd Show (1959–1966), Doddy's Music Box (1967), Ken Dodd and the Diddymen (1969–1973), The Ken Dodd Show (1969), Ken Dodd in Funny You Should Say That (1972), Ken Dodd says Stand By Your Beds, Ken Dodd's World of Laughter (1974), The Ken Dodd New Year's Eve Special (1975), The Ken Dodd Show (1978), The Ken Dodd Laughter Show (1979), Dodd on his Todd (1981), Doddy! (1982), Ken Dodd's Showbiz (1982), Ken Dodd at the London Palladium (1990), An Audience with Ken Dodd (1994), Another Audience with Ken Dodd (2002), Ken Dodd's Happiness (2007), Ken Dodd: In His Own Words (2017).
Ken has also guest in many other series including Doctor Who, My Favourite Joke, Dawn French's Boys Who Do Comedy, Fern Britton Meets..., and The Good Old Days.
Only in death does duty end ( talk) 13:21, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Does wiki still have section on people pages to ref books about them?
Ken Dodd: The Biography By Stephen Griffin
I've added a mention of his longterm relationship with Anita Boutin (24 years, until her death in 1977) into the "Early life" section. It seems misplaced though there is no other obvious place to put it. Should there be a "Personal life" section? And, if so, should the tax case and discussion of his attitude to money fall within it, rather than a separate section? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 13:29, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure about this edit. At least in his earlier career, he certainly made play of his physical appearance, including his hair and teeth, but I'm sure he wasn't "best known" for that - nor am I sure that he was "best known" for his tickling stick or catch phrases. He was "best known", if anything, for his unique style of rapid-fire and often surreal jokes, and the length and quantity of his stage (and TV, to an extent) appearances over a long career. We need to say something in the opening paragraph about his most defining characteristics, and in deciding that we should be guided, in my view, by what obituaries in reliable sources say about him. What are people's thoughts about what that should be? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 09:26, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
There is an apocryphal story which says that Kenn Dodd once insured his teeth for £25,000 ... provided that he didn't eat any seaside rock sticks! [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.244.210.117 ( talk) 09:31, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
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The first sentence in this article refers to him as "Sir Kenneth Arthur Dodd". It could also state that he was generally known by his stage name, Ken Dodd. Vorbee ( talk) 16:31, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
If one goes to the end of the categories, one can see "Ken Dodd". If one clicks on this category, we can see that the only article in it is this one. This makes one wonder whether we really need this category. Vorbee ( talk) 20:05, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Why does the article not mention that Dodd was a Conservative who publicly supported Margaret Thatcher? ( 86.132.155.150 ( talk) 01:13, 28 April 2020 (UTC))
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As I remember, Ken Dodd did several TV series in the 1970s - if anyone has any details about them, they'd certainly be worth adding to the article, please! New Thought 20:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
One was definitely called "Funny You Should Say That !" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.198.251.30 ( talk) 21:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I'll say it just once - Billy Crystal plays the gravedigger. Ken Dodd plays Yorick in silent flashback. This is confirmed by the film credits as well as the director's commentary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.150.143.180 ( talk) 16:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
IMDB lists Ken Dodd as playing Yorick, not either of the two grave diggers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.177.3 ( talk) 23:08, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't Ken Dodd have some sort of project to perform at every theatre in the UK or something? Worth a mention. Cutler 11:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
And at nearly eighty the finest stand-up in the country
Sir Ken Dodd still tours the Uk to different theatres which are always filled every night. If you get the chance.. go see him. Amazingly funny!! Adam Kiel Moore ( talk) 12:41, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
There are a few qoutes that are not cited, and some of it reads like an autobiography, hence the cleanup tag.
Image:KDHS1.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot 04:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't feel that the image of Ken Dodd on this page is a true representation of what he looks like.
It shocked me at first, I saw him last year and I'm sure he hasnt aged this much.
Does anybody else share the same opinion? Matty2002 ( talk) 21:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
The link to the 'didtheydie' page is completly unnecassary and does not contribute to the article. Therefore, I am removing it. 86.20.115.233 ( talk) 15:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Is there really a Ken Dodd single called "Ken Dodd's dad's dogs dead"? I think there's a band of that name. Can we have a reference? -- Frumpo ( talk) 13:45, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
I saw Ken in Blackpool 07/11/2011 and accordingly this article needs updating to show he is active at the end of 2011. He came on at about 19:15 and fininshed at 01:00 the next morning. He had three breaks during the show and seemed to have more as much energy when he finished as when he started. 94.5.82.107 ( talk) 12:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
I agree. He thrives on simply making people laugh and enjoys it so much it seems to take away the years and you see him seem to grow on stage and the energy flow into him. At 89 and still doing the shows i think everytime i see him its almost unbelievable. I've now seen him 3times and he is like a tonic for life and such a priveledge to see. Long may he go on. Adam Kiel Moore ( talk) 12:49, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
This statistic seems unlikely given that his best-selling song sold only c.1 million copies, and it seems likely that few other songs of his sold anything like this given that they were much further down the charts. The source is an obscure local paper. Also note Dodd is not listed anywhere in List of best-selling music artists. Ben Finn ( talk) 11:56, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Around 1960, I remember seeing Ken Dodd on TV a number of times and in a separate part of the screen on his right, so our left, were tiny cartoon men (black and white, as the show itself was) who spoke in squeaky voices. They were his Diddy Men, Diddy I suppose meaning small, and he talked to and interacted with them. ( 178.236.117.122 ( talk) 08:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC))
Not sure how many assertions in this article are wrong, but this one is for sure:
In the 1960s his fame was such that he rivalled <sic> the Beatles as a household name.[1]
I suspect some of the record sales statements are incorrect as well. Not a lot of harm in these errors, but it is a little confounding (a little like reading an assertion that the sky is red when it is easy to verify it is not red, and no citation is needed). Few in North America, South America, or Europe had not heard of the Beatles. Lennon's faux pas that they were more popular than Jesus was reflective of their reach even if it was politically incorrect to say it publicly. Perhaps Dodd's popularity rivaled the Beatles in parts of England, Scotland and Wales? N0w8st8s ( talk) 17:40, 2 June 2014 (UTC)n0w8st8s
This article says that "Tears" was the third best-selling single of the 1960s, but I am sure that I heard on the radio tonight (February 11 2018) that it was the fifth best-selling single, after numbers that were all Beatles songs. Vorbee ( talk) 18:43, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
He did not perform in 2018. ( 86.133.85.74 ( talk) 12:30, 12 March 2018 (UTC))
I dont have time atm, but the below has been removed as lacking explicit sourcing. If anyone can quickly source it, replace it back in an appropriate section.
The shows that Dodd has starred in included:
The Ken Dodd Show (1959–1966), Doddy's Music Box (1967), Ken Dodd and the Diddymen (1969–1973), The Ken Dodd Show (1969), Ken Dodd in Funny You Should Say That (1972), Ken Dodd says Stand By Your Beds, Ken Dodd's World of Laughter (1974), The Ken Dodd New Year's Eve Special (1975), The Ken Dodd Show (1978), The Ken Dodd Laughter Show (1979), Dodd on his Todd (1981), Doddy! (1982), Ken Dodd's Showbiz (1982), Ken Dodd at the London Palladium (1990), An Audience with Ken Dodd (1994), Another Audience with Ken Dodd (2002), Ken Dodd's Happiness (2007), Ken Dodd: In His Own Words (2017).
Ken has also guest in many other series including Doctor Who, My Favourite Joke, Dawn French's Boys Who Do Comedy, Fern Britton Meets..., and The Good Old Days.
Only in death does duty end ( talk) 13:21, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Does wiki still have section on people pages to ref books about them?
Ken Dodd: The Biography By Stephen Griffin
I've added a mention of his longterm relationship with Anita Boutin (24 years, until her death in 1977) into the "Early life" section. It seems misplaced though there is no other obvious place to put it. Should there be a "Personal life" section? And, if so, should the tax case and discussion of his attitude to money fall within it, rather than a separate section? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 13:29, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure about this edit. At least in his earlier career, he certainly made play of his physical appearance, including his hair and teeth, but I'm sure he wasn't "best known" for that - nor am I sure that he was "best known" for his tickling stick or catch phrases. He was "best known", if anything, for his unique style of rapid-fire and often surreal jokes, and the length and quantity of his stage (and TV, to an extent) appearances over a long career. We need to say something in the opening paragraph about his most defining characteristics, and in deciding that we should be guided, in my view, by what obituaries in reliable sources say about him. What are people's thoughts about what that should be? Ghmyrtle ( talk) 09:26, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
There is an apocryphal story which says that Kenn Dodd once insured his teeth for £25,000 ... provided that he didn't eat any seaside rock sticks! [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.244.210.117 ( talk) 09:31, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
References
The first sentence in this article refers to him as "Sir Kenneth Arthur Dodd". It could also state that he was generally known by his stage name, Ken Dodd. Vorbee ( talk) 16:31, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
If one goes to the end of the categories, one can see "Ken Dodd". If one clicks on this category, we can see that the only article in it is this one. This makes one wonder whether we really need this category. Vorbee ( talk) 20:05, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Why does the article not mention that Dodd was a Conservative who publicly supported Margaret Thatcher? ( 86.132.155.150 ( talk) 01:13, 28 April 2020 (UTC))
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