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Shouldn't there be some statement in the article about Kelly firing her guitarist? It's all over the [gossip] news lately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.194.41 ( talk) 19:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Kelly Clarkson plans to create a fifth album in Fall of 2010. She stated that it would be music unlike all of her other albums...being rock and pop. She still hasn't announced who the editor is going to be, though.
Sounds a bit English to me Clarkson son of Clark, what do you recon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.3.245 ( talk) 03:57, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
She is of Irish decent on her paternal side as her dad last name is Clarkson, Yes Clarkson is of English origins, though it must be said that her Irish Ancestry maybe her dads parents maybe mother or father. On her Maternal side of the family same again maybe of ancestry through her parents-parents because she is of Greek heritage. ( talk)
She is off Irish and Greek ethnicity. This is obtained from an interview of Kelly Clarkson where she discusses this. I am not sure how to reference it on wikipedia, as I am a new user. She discusses her ethnicity around the 1.50 minute mark. The source is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D18UsuIZ8hI ( talk)
Kelly Clarkson tracks Greek heritage American songstress has tracked her Greek ancestry in the show Who Do You Think You Are?
Singer Kelly Clarkson. Photo: Dario Cantatore/Invision/AP.
8 Jul 2013 American songstress Kelly Clarkson has tracked her Greek ancestry in the TLC show, Who Do You Think You Are?. Clarkson's mother's side is Greek, while she is also of German and Irish decent. Clarkson has been vocal about her Greek ancestry, saying despite her multicultural heritage, she considers herself mostly Greek and can speak the language fluently. During one interview, she attributed her body type to her Greek roots: "I like my waist because it's the smallest part of me! I love my figure but I'm part Greek which means I'm curvy."
Source: Greek Reporter Hollywood 58.169.191.7 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:18, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
I don't know the exact term for it but the picture used in the info bar at the top of the page should be updated. It looks like it's from the American Idol or Thankful eras. An AIEW era pic should be used. She looks different now. Fan4me ( talk) 17:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes thank you for doing that! Fan4me ( talk) 13:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
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Her popularity skyrocketed in 2009 & 2010. 124.182.51.171 ( talk) 14:39, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
why should only 1 go there? Britney Spears' page has 2 websites listed. Fan4me ( talk) 18:37, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
what do you mean it's fixed? there's still only kellyofficial.com listed. Fan4me ( talk) 18:37, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
umm i dont exactly know what you mean by that so I'll say this: I mean the links should be in the info box at the top of the page next to "Website". Only kellyofficial.com is listed there. I know they're both listed at the bottom under "External Links" but it should be up there too. Fan4me ( talk) 01:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
She is of Greek, Welsh, and Irish descent. She is bi-lingual and speaks the Greek language fluently. This is very well documented in numerous places (which a simple Google search will reveal). -- Nikoz78 ( talk) 23:32, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
OMG i didnt know she could speak greek! Fan4me ( talk) 18:19, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
No she cannot speak fluent Greek its just her ancestry that she has greek. stayg86 ( talk) 17:26, 23 September 2010 (GMT) Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D18UsuIZ8hI on here she states that she doesnt speak greek.
hmm well then that person 4 messages above mine needs to fix their shtuff. Fan4me ( talk) 01:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Kelly Clarkson officially announced June 22nd 2010 on her twitter account that she has finished recording her 1st song for her 5th studio album. The song is also confirmed to be a duet with a unannounced artist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdealornodeal ( talk • contribs) 20:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
I think that SHOULD be added to the article, that she has confirmed to have recorded a duet for the next album. It IS confirmed and IS news. Fan4me ( talk) 19:38, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Kelly confirmed on Twitter that the album will most likely be pushed back until early 2011 however she feels the first single off the album will be released before the end of the year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdealornodeal ( talk • contribs) 01:03, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
social networks are not a reliable source under wikipedia guidelines. Very often a celebrity says something will happen, then it doesn't happen when they claim, or something totally different happens. Nothing is for certain until an official release is out from management or label (with a few exceptions. This includes thigns Kelly says (has has mentioned songs on albums in the past that never happened, singles that were never released because they were switched last minute, among other things). Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of verifiable facts of the present and past, not the future Alan - talk 04:59, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
I know there have been age-long debates in this talk page in years past when I was previous editor of this article under a different name, but can we please change the picture in the main article. It's terrible and worth considering. I move to change it to this
from the American Idol 1 page.
I'll leave this out there incase anyone has any better suggestions. Ball00naticFan ( talk) 11:15, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Agreed. There are so many other better pictures of her out there. Surely there must be something in public use that we can use. B4theword ( talk) 20:34, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
I have no idea how to change the recent pic (which is not her best one) ! here is a link of a nice and more recent one :
http://en.terra.com/addon/img/c7bd4c51-kelly-fight%20(6)p.jpg
( discription of the pic would be : Clarkson performing at the "Celebrity Fight Night" in March 2011 )
Could someone please change it ? thx =)
also, it'd be nice if Avril Lavigne and Pink (singer) were listed as associated acts.
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Excuse me for the "attitude", but how does a section composed of random soundbytes from Clarkson's friends/former bosses not seem inappropriate and completely uninformative. Most of these quotes say nothing about her voice itself, just that is is amazing. Then there's this phrase "praise from critics and celebrities alike," who cares. Does "praise" from Simon Cowell tell me anything about her voice? No it doesn't. If you (Cartoon Boy and your numerous IP addresses) had read, I had retained the most descriptive quotes that were not from her associates. You're just creating a slippery slope where we can add all sort of "praise" here, like maybe next week we'll have a soundbyte from Kim Kardashian on how amazing Clarkson's voice is. So excuse me for being a little heavy handed with the wording, but you're just trying to disguise a peacock section as a legitimate section. Fixer23 ( talk) 23:31, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
I agree. And furthermore, aren't terms like spinto, lyric, dramatic, ... only used for singers with classical trained / operatic voices. At least that's what I found out from Voice classification in non-classical music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.187.102.123 ( talk) 01:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Whistle Register and range
Having researched the discussion archives and various composition data here I have calculated that her range spans from E3 - G6 the latter note being that of a whistle in 'Honestly' from 'Stronger'. She has also previously hit the whistle register live on several occasions and her famed Idol performance of 'Natural Woman' (F#6). Do you think we could add a snippet in regards to her having over a 3 octave range with the ability to access the whistle register? BrotherDarksoul ( talk) 09:13, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Please note I have changed the pic as the previous one was innapropriate for an opening pic due to its pollution of the heads of others etc and brands no less, I have added another being 'File:KClarkson2010.jpg' as its tidier and better suited to that of an info box image. If anyone would like to change the image please refer to here first with decent reasoning before just reverting it back to the grim image that was there before. Thank you BrotherDarksoul ( talk) 04:40, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
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At least twice in this article about Kelly Clarkson, it identifies the song as Aretha Franklin's. Aretha did record it and make it a hit. However, the song was written by the famous songwriting team of Carole King and Gerry Goffin. Carole King also recorded it and had success with it.
Aretha Franklin did not write that song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.136.192 ( talk) 04:57, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
I understand that this is a lengthy article, but is the Lead section commensurate with the content? I am hoping a more experienced copyeditor might be able to assist with this. Soulparadox ( talk) 11:50, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
I have repaired the bare URLs that remained; however, I also identified a Dead link and a References error message persists at the bottom of the References section. Can anyone help with the error message?-- Soulparadox ( talk) 12:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
I object to the inclusion of this "political views" section. It is filled with trivia about how she is going to vote, and sourced essentially to a few Tweets; the citations are to blogs and not reliable secondary sources. Elizium23 ( talk) 20:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
I've moved this discussion here so that other editors may contribute:
The next time add a reference if you are going to do this. She rarely sings country music, she is not a country artist per se. Tbhotch. ™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 05:37, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone else think that the page is now worthy of reassessment in regards to being that of a GA? I believe so, I feel it meets the necessary criteria. Let me know if you guys agree please add your comments, over the past few months the input from all editors has significantly improved upon the quality of the content in the article as well as the reliability of the sourcing amongst other things. I wanted to get peoples opinions before just going ahead and nominating it again. Many thanks. BrotherDarksoul Blether 11:40, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
What's the deal with the References section for this article? I don't remember seeing an actual list on the edit page of an article instead of just {Reflist} or {Reflist|30em}. It also looks strange that (on the actual article) it's all one list instead of two columns. -- Musdan77 ( talk) 05:44, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
She's apparently officially now Kelly Brianne Blackstock. [1] -- Puisque ( talk) 18:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that there is written "Years active: 2005 - present" in the infobox. In fact, she's been active since 2002, when she won American Idol and released her debut single A Moment Like This. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.160.62.158 ( talk) 14:37, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
How does including the name of a non-notable minor child (who has no contribution to anything other than being born) improves a BLP article? While not a specific policy, it's always been understood (by me and several long-time editors I've come across) that the names and identifying information of non-notable minor children are to be left out of articles for reasons of privacy. Nonetheless, the following (found at WP:BLPNAME) is policy: "The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons. The names of any immediate, ex, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject. However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced." is clear. The name of a non-notable minor child that doesn't enhance a reader's understanding of the article subject. It should be left out on this premise alone. While some might argue that the names of celebrity children are announced publicly all the time, therefore, their names should be included in Wikipedia articles, this is true and not true. Kanye West and Kim Kardashian's child, North, falls into this category. We are all aware of how over publicized the couple is. The same would be true with Michael Jackson's children when they were born and growing up. Siri Cruise's name would also apply here. These children, however, attained notability because of the amount of publicity their parents/families allowed prior to and after their births as well as during their growing up years. The children of Ginnifer Goodwin/Josh Dallas and Kelly Clarkson do not fall into this category. Their minor children remain non-notable. When they become notable (whether as minor children or as adults upon reaching age 18), then it would be appropriate to name them in the articles on their parents. At this point in time, knowing the names of these children do not enhance the article nor does it assist in the reader's complete understanding of the article subject. That is how the policy reads. I maintain that leaving these names out of the respective articles is the correct action in accordance with policy. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 17:05, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
I removed it because copying and pasting entire user talk page entries is unrelated and inappropriate on article talk pages. I could speculate here why you did it, but won't. What I will say is that by copying and pasting directly from my talk page (and including content that was completely unrelated) you were commenting on an editor (me) rather than content and were not discussing how to improve the article. If you want to copy and paste your "four-part answer" and include it here, do it. But don't reference it and copy it as user talk page discussion including followup comments you made at the same page. My talk page contents are not germane to the discussion about this article. Frankly, I see the inclusion of such as an intimidation tactic bordering on harassment.
If anyone's interested in the particulars of Tenebrae's beef with me and his subsequent actions, it can all be viewed at ANI here: [2] -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 17:54, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Discussion now on only one article talk page. Please take comments here: [3] -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 17:56, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Per consensus at the BLP noticeboard (here: [4]), all identifying information on the article subject's infant child have been removed. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 19:44, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I believe her legal name is now Kelly Blackstock after marrying Brandon Blackstock and taking his surname. 88.90.246.129 ( talk) 09:25, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
There is WAYYY too much detail about those record sales. Apparently this was written by her publicity people. Please edit to reasonable limits. Lynxx2 ( talk) 17:50, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
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Please change "The cards are exclusivity sold at Walmart." to "The cards are sold exclusively at Walmart." to preserve continuity of phrase and adverb form. Thank you. 69.251.132.42 ( talk) 02:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 02:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
In the article one line says:"In a career spanning over a decade, Clarkson has accumulated ninety-one number ones on the Billboard charts". According to Billboard's list of most no 1 artists that would make her over 4 times bigger than Beatles and 7 times bigger than Michael Jackson. Overall Kelly is number 75 on the Hot 100 list. I count to 3 no 1 entries according to these lists.
http://www.billboard.com/artist/305681/kelly-clarkson/chart?page=2&f=379 http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/5557800/hot-100-55th-anniversary-by-the-numbers-top-100-artists-most-no — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.72.252.158 ( talk) 12:29, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
-> The number ones include her every song or album that managed to reach the top spot on whichever Billboard chart, including for example Hot Dance Club Songs, Top Holiday Albums, Adult Contemporary etc. On Billboard Hot 100 she indeed has only 3 number one songs though. — Preceding
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Should we consider putting Trisha Yearwood on that list? Since she (like Reba McEntire) and Clarkson had collaborated more than once ("Silent Night" and "Prizefighter"), based on the template's number 2 criteria on its "associated acts" section? McEntire did a tour with Clarkson, though. Chihciboy ( talk) 16:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
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I have never edited a Wikipedia page and do not know how, but I see an entry on Kelly Clarkson's page which is likely incorrect (specifically a notation on Filmography, 2017, Star Wars VIII, Jabba the Hut). (and if it was added maliciously, it is offensive.) Can someone kindly review and remove, if appropriate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.74.51.100 ( talk) 19:22, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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Although I appreciate the changes that were made on Kelly Clarkson's wikipage recently, I really do think that the sections about her personal life, political views and philantrophy should make a comeback. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.91.51.153 ( talk) 12:28, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Kelly's work, especially her early work (see My December & Breakaway), have been described as either rock, or pop rock in their stylings, as can also be seen on their own album pages.
Therefore, in order for the genre in the infobox of this article to remain accurate, I propose that the genre should either be altered to Pop rock, or that Rock should be added as an additional genre.
Bhavik333 ( talk) 22:49, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
An infobox is a summary of the article. So let's look at what the article actually says. Her music is mentioned as: rock - 2 times, pop rock - 1 time, pop (alone) about a dozen times; also, soul - once, talking about a future album, and country - 4 or 5 times, mostly about her collaborations, but once about a possible future album. Now, my opinion is that I would not be opposed to "pop rock" or "pop, rock" (probably the latter would be better). But, I don't think that just "pop" is sufficient. When I think of a pop singer, I think of someone like Britney Spears. Even the " King of Pop" has (much) more listed than just "pop" (and that's a featured article). — Musdan77 ( talk) 18:57, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
I have to agree on the fact that she should be credited as Pop-rock or else, both Pop, Rock. All of her albums include rock and pop rock songs, rather than "pure" pop music. She has sung other genres too, Country, Punk, Jazz, Soul, but I do not think they can sum up her whole career though, unless she changes her musical directions. It seems to be the case after her label departure, finallY! So probably Soul in the future, but that's only speculation. I provide references that classify her as Pop-rock or Rock-tinged pop. http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/2wgb/ -- Hadriensaori ( talk) 10:27, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
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Shouldn't there be some statement in the article about Kelly firing her guitarist? It's all over the [gossip] news lately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.194.41 ( talk) 19:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Kelly Clarkson plans to create a fifth album in Fall of 2010. She stated that it would be music unlike all of her other albums...being rock and pop. She still hasn't announced who the editor is going to be, though.
Sounds a bit English to me Clarkson son of Clark, what do you recon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.3.245 ( talk) 03:57, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
She is of Irish decent on her paternal side as her dad last name is Clarkson, Yes Clarkson is of English origins, though it must be said that her Irish Ancestry maybe her dads parents maybe mother or father. On her Maternal side of the family same again maybe of ancestry through her parents-parents because she is of Greek heritage. ( talk)
She is off Irish and Greek ethnicity. This is obtained from an interview of Kelly Clarkson where she discusses this. I am not sure how to reference it on wikipedia, as I am a new user. She discusses her ethnicity around the 1.50 minute mark. The source is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D18UsuIZ8hI ( talk)
Kelly Clarkson tracks Greek heritage American songstress has tracked her Greek ancestry in the show Who Do You Think You Are?
Singer Kelly Clarkson. Photo: Dario Cantatore/Invision/AP.
8 Jul 2013 American songstress Kelly Clarkson has tracked her Greek ancestry in the TLC show, Who Do You Think You Are?. Clarkson's mother's side is Greek, while she is also of German and Irish decent. Clarkson has been vocal about her Greek ancestry, saying despite her multicultural heritage, she considers herself mostly Greek and can speak the language fluently. During one interview, she attributed her body type to her Greek roots: "I like my waist because it's the smallest part of me! I love my figure but I'm part Greek which means I'm curvy."
Source: Greek Reporter Hollywood 58.169.191.7 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:18, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
I don't know the exact term for it but the picture used in the info bar at the top of the page should be updated. It looks like it's from the American Idol or Thankful eras. An AIEW era pic should be used. She looks different now. Fan4me ( talk) 17:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes thank you for doing that! Fan4me ( talk) 13:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
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Her popularity skyrocketed in 2009 & 2010. 124.182.51.171 ( talk) 14:39, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
why should only 1 go there? Britney Spears' page has 2 websites listed. Fan4me ( talk) 18:37, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
what do you mean it's fixed? there's still only kellyofficial.com listed. Fan4me ( talk) 18:37, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
umm i dont exactly know what you mean by that so I'll say this: I mean the links should be in the info box at the top of the page next to "Website". Only kellyofficial.com is listed there. I know they're both listed at the bottom under "External Links" but it should be up there too. Fan4me ( talk) 01:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
She is of Greek, Welsh, and Irish descent. She is bi-lingual and speaks the Greek language fluently. This is very well documented in numerous places (which a simple Google search will reveal). -- Nikoz78 ( talk) 23:32, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
OMG i didnt know she could speak greek! Fan4me ( talk) 18:19, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
No she cannot speak fluent Greek its just her ancestry that she has greek. stayg86 ( talk) 17:26, 23 September 2010 (GMT) Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D18UsuIZ8hI on here she states that she doesnt speak greek.
hmm well then that person 4 messages above mine needs to fix their shtuff. Fan4me ( talk) 01:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Kelly Clarkson officially announced June 22nd 2010 on her twitter account that she has finished recording her 1st song for her 5th studio album. The song is also confirmed to be a duet with a unannounced artist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdealornodeal ( talk • contribs) 20:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
I think that SHOULD be added to the article, that she has confirmed to have recorded a duet for the next album. It IS confirmed and IS news. Fan4me ( talk) 19:38, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Kelly confirmed on Twitter that the album will most likely be pushed back until early 2011 however she feels the first single off the album will be released before the end of the year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdealornodeal ( talk • contribs) 01:03, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
social networks are not a reliable source under wikipedia guidelines. Very often a celebrity says something will happen, then it doesn't happen when they claim, or something totally different happens. Nothing is for certain until an official release is out from management or label (with a few exceptions. This includes thigns Kelly says (has has mentioned songs on albums in the past that never happened, singles that were never released because they were switched last minute, among other things). Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of verifiable facts of the present and past, not the future Alan - talk 04:59, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
I know there have been age-long debates in this talk page in years past when I was previous editor of this article under a different name, but can we please change the picture in the main article. It's terrible and worth considering. I move to change it to this
from the American Idol 1 page.
I'll leave this out there incase anyone has any better suggestions. Ball00naticFan ( talk) 11:15, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Agreed. There are so many other better pictures of her out there. Surely there must be something in public use that we can use. B4theword ( talk) 20:34, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
I have no idea how to change the recent pic (which is not her best one) ! here is a link of a nice and more recent one :
http://en.terra.com/addon/img/c7bd4c51-kelly-fight%20(6)p.jpg
( discription of the pic would be : Clarkson performing at the "Celebrity Fight Night" in March 2011 )
Could someone please change it ? thx =)
also, it'd be nice if Avril Lavigne and Pink (singer) were listed as associated acts.
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Excuse me for the "attitude", but how does a section composed of random soundbytes from Clarkson's friends/former bosses not seem inappropriate and completely uninformative. Most of these quotes say nothing about her voice itself, just that is is amazing. Then there's this phrase "praise from critics and celebrities alike," who cares. Does "praise" from Simon Cowell tell me anything about her voice? No it doesn't. If you (Cartoon Boy and your numerous IP addresses) had read, I had retained the most descriptive quotes that were not from her associates. You're just creating a slippery slope where we can add all sort of "praise" here, like maybe next week we'll have a soundbyte from Kim Kardashian on how amazing Clarkson's voice is. So excuse me for being a little heavy handed with the wording, but you're just trying to disguise a peacock section as a legitimate section. Fixer23 ( talk) 23:31, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
I agree. And furthermore, aren't terms like spinto, lyric, dramatic, ... only used for singers with classical trained / operatic voices. At least that's what I found out from Voice classification in non-classical music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.187.102.123 ( talk) 01:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Whistle Register and range
Having researched the discussion archives and various composition data here I have calculated that her range spans from E3 - G6 the latter note being that of a whistle in 'Honestly' from 'Stronger'. She has also previously hit the whistle register live on several occasions and her famed Idol performance of 'Natural Woman' (F#6). Do you think we could add a snippet in regards to her having over a 3 octave range with the ability to access the whistle register? BrotherDarksoul ( talk) 09:13, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Please note I have changed the pic as the previous one was innapropriate for an opening pic due to its pollution of the heads of others etc and brands no less, I have added another being 'File:KClarkson2010.jpg' as its tidier and better suited to that of an info box image. If anyone would like to change the image please refer to here first with decent reasoning before just reverting it back to the grim image that was there before. Thank you BrotherDarksoul ( talk) 04:40, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
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Category:American pop rock singers
Amy Traynor 19:42, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
At least twice in this article about Kelly Clarkson, it identifies the song as Aretha Franklin's. Aretha did record it and make it a hit. However, the song was written by the famous songwriting team of Carole King and Gerry Goffin. Carole King also recorded it and had success with it.
Aretha Franklin did not write that song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.136.192 ( talk) 04:57, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
I understand that this is a lengthy article, but is the Lead section commensurate with the content? I am hoping a more experienced copyeditor might be able to assist with this. Soulparadox ( talk) 11:50, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
I have repaired the bare URLs that remained; however, I also identified a Dead link and a References error message persists at the bottom of the References section. Can anyone help with the error message?-- Soulparadox ( talk) 12:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
I object to the inclusion of this "political views" section. It is filled with trivia about how she is going to vote, and sourced essentially to a few Tweets; the citations are to blogs and not reliable secondary sources. Elizium23 ( talk) 20:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
I've moved this discussion here so that other editors may contribute:
The next time add a reference if you are going to do this. She rarely sings country music, she is not a country artist per se. Tbhotch. ™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 05:37, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone else think that the page is now worthy of reassessment in regards to being that of a GA? I believe so, I feel it meets the necessary criteria. Let me know if you guys agree please add your comments, over the past few months the input from all editors has significantly improved upon the quality of the content in the article as well as the reliability of the sourcing amongst other things. I wanted to get peoples opinions before just going ahead and nominating it again. Many thanks. BrotherDarksoul Blether 11:40, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
What's the deal with the References section for this article? I don't remember seeing an actual list on the edit page of an article instead of just {Reflist} or {Reflist|30em}. It also looks strange that (on the actual article) it's all one list instead of two columns. -- Musdan77 ( talk) 05:44, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
She's apparently officially now Kelly Brianne Blackstock. [1] -- Puisque ( talk) 18:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that there is written "Years active: 2005 - present" in the infobox. In fact, she's been active since 2002, when she won American Idol and released her debut single A Moment Like This. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.160.62.158 ( talk) 14:37, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
How does including the name of a non-notable minor child (who has no contribution to anything other than being born) improves a BLP article? While not a specific policy, it's always been understood (by me and several long-time editors I've come across) that the names and identifying information of non-notable minor children are to be left out of articles for reasons of privacy. Nonetheless, the following (found at WP:BLPNAME) is policy: "The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons. The names of any immediate, ex, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject. However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced." is clear. The name of a non-notable minor child that doesn't enhance a reader's understanding of the article subject. It should be left out on this premise alone. While some might argue that the names of celebrity children are announced publicly all the time, therefore, their names should be included in Wikipedia articles, this is true and not true. Kanye West and Kim Kardashian's child, North, falls into this category. We are all aware of how over publicized the couple is. The same would be true with Michael Jackson's children when they were born and growing up. Siri Cruise's name would also apply here. These children, however, attained notability because of the amount of publicity their parents/families allowed prior to and after their births as well as during their growing up years. The children of Ginnifer Goodwin/Josh Dallas and Kelly Clarkson do not fall into this category. Their minor children remain non-notable. When they become notable (whether as minor children or as adults upon reaching age 18), then it would be appropriate to name them in the articles on their parents. At this point in time, knowing the names of these children do not enhance the article nor does it assist in the reader's complete understanding of the article subject. That is how the policy reads. I maintain that leaving these names out of the respective articles is the correct action in accordance with policy. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 17:05, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
I removed it because copying and pasting entire user talk page entries is unrelated and inappropriate on article talk pages. I could speculate here why you did it, but won't. What I will say is that by copying and pasting directly from my talk page (and including content that was completely unrelated) you were commenting on an editor (me) rather than content and were not discussing how to improve the article. If you want to copy and paste your "four-part answer" and include it here, do it. But don't reference it and copy it as user talk page discussion including followup comments you made at the same page. My talk page contents are not germane to the discussion about this article. Frankly, I see the inclusion of such as an intimidation tactic bordering on harassment.
If anyone's interested in the particulars of Tenebrae's beef with me and his subsequent actions, it can all be viewed at ANI here: [2] -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 17:54, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Discussion now on only one article talk page. Please take comments here: [3] -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 17:56, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Per consensus at the BLP noticeboard (here: [4]), all identifying information on the article subject's infant child have been removed. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 19:44, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I believe her legal name is now Kelly Blackstock after marrying Brandon Blackstock and taking his surname. 88.90.246.129 ( talk) 09:25, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
There is WAYYY too much detail about those record sales. Apparently this was written by her publicity people. Please edit to reasonable limits. Lynxx2 ( talk) 17:50, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
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Please change "The cards are exclusivity sold at Walmart." to "The cards are sold exclusively at Walmart." to preserve continuity of phrase and adverb form. Thank you. 69.251.132.42 ( talk) 02:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 02:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
In the article one line says:"In a career spanning over a decade, Clarkson has accumulated ninety-one number ones on the Billboard charts". According to Billboard's list of most no 1 artists that would make her over 4 times bigger than Beatles and 7 times bigger than Michael Jackson. Overall Kelly is number 75 on the Hot 100 list. I count to 3 no 1 entries according to these lists.
http://www.billboard.com/artist/305681/kelly-clarkson/chart?page=2&f=379 http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/5557800/hot-100-55th-anniversary-by-the-numbers-top-100-artists-most-no — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.72.252.158 ( talk) 12:29, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
-> The number ones include her every song or album that managed to reach the top spot on whichever Billboard chart, including for example Hot Dance Club Songs, Top Holiday Albums, Adult Contemporary etc. On Billboard Hot 100 she indeed has only 3 number one songs though. — Preceding
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Should we consider putting Trisha Yearwood on that list? Since she (like Reba McEntire) and Clarkson had collaborated more than once ("Silent Night" and "Prizefighter"), based on the template's number 2 criteria on its "associated acts" section? McEntire did a tour with Clarkson, though. Chihciboy ( talk) 16:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
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I have never edited a Wikipedia page and do not know how, but I see an entry on Kelly Clarkson's page which is likely incorrect (specifically a notation on Filmography, 2017, Star Wars VIII, Jabba the Hut). (and if it was added maliciously, it is offensive.) Can someone kindly review and remove, if appropriate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.74.51.100 ( talk) 19:22, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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Although I appreciate the changes that were made on Kelly Clarkson's wikipage recently, I really do think that the sections about her personal life, political views and philantrophy should make a comeback. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.91.51.153 ( talk) 12:28, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Kelly's work, especially her early work (see My December & Breakaway), have been described as either rock, or pop rock in their stylings, as can also be seen on their own album pages.
Therefore, in order for the genre in the infobox of this article to remain accurate, I propose that the genre should either be altered to Pop rock, or that Rock should be added as an additional genre.
Bhavik333 ( talk) 22:49, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
An infobox is a summary of the article. So let's look at what the article actually says. Her music is mentioned as: rock - 2 times, pop rock - 1 time, pop (alone) about a dozen times; also, soul - once, talking about a future album, and country - 4 or 5 times, mostly about her collaborations, but once about a possible future album. Now, my opinion is that I would not be opposed to "pop rock" or "pop, rock" (probably the latter would be better). But, I don't think that just "pop" is sufficient. When I think of a pop singer, I think of someone like Britney Spears. Even the " King of Pop" has (much) more listed than just "pop" (and that's a featured article). — Musdan77 ( talk) 18:57, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
I have to agree on the fact that she should be credited as Pop-rock or else, both Pop, Rock. All of her albums include rock and pop rock songs, rather than "pure" pop music. She has sung other genres too, Country, Punk, Jazz, Soul, but I do not think they can sum up her whole career though, unless she changes her musical directions. It seems to be the case after her label departure, finallY! So probably Soul in the future, but that's only speculation. I provide references that classify her as Pop-rock or Rock-tinged pop. http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/2wgb/ -- Hadriensaori ( talk) 10:27, 25 August 2017 (UTC)