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I've been thinking about diacritics for this article. I've included them sometimes - usually the first time, but not consistently. I started thinking it would be better to use them as it is more 'correct', but then I realised that any search engine looking at the page would not index kukai, but only kū.kai which isn't going to help anyone find this page.
If anyone has any thought's on this let me know...
According to popular tradition, Kukai is the legendary patron of love between men, having introduced what was held to be a Chinese tradition at the same time as the Shingon teachings. Mount Koya has been a by-word for same-sex relations, in particular for the shudo tradition for hundreds of years. I am surprised this information has been deleted from this article. Haiduc 14:10, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Some sources say that kukai is considered by japanese folklore for being introducted homosexual relations in buddhist monasteries. But the sources concerning that seem to be all written by westerners. This info must be either fully debunked or fully confirmed based on japanese sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.9.174.122 ( talk) 10:08, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
was this the monk who was friends with Musashi and hence of influence on the philosphy of Go-rin-no-sho? 07:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC) Noserider ( talk)
I've read this article a number of times, and I can't get around the fact that it is just too wordy. It seems that the bulk of the contributions are made by people who are almost quoting verbatim source texts. There's no concerted attempt at summarization and citing references, instead of just writing them out. There's plenty of places in the text that could contain one-line statements, and cite longer references below.
The history section for example contains too much background information regarding Emperor Kammu's moving of the capital. That whole section could be removed and just point readers to the Kammu and Heian-period articles instead.
Can't we trim this down? If we want to introduce people to Kukai, then the article needs to be a lot more concise.
The final section on Kukai's contributions is pretty subjective too and either needs to cite more, or just be outright removed.
Ph0kin 05:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
The article currently contains this sentence: "The family fortunes had fallen by 791 when Kūkai journeyed to Nara, the capital at the time". This is incorrect. The capital was moved from Nara to Nagaoka in 784. (See both the articles on Nara and Nagaoka.) -- Westwind273 ( talk) 08:48, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello, the caption of the last image says:
Monks bringing food to Kōbō Daishi on Mount Kōya, as they believe he is not dead but rather meditating. They feed him every day and change his clothes. No one except the highest monks are allowed to see him.
Can you please provide more detail and references for that? Thanks, -- Emdee ( talk) 16:06, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
There is in fact a translation of the second part (Chapters 5-10) of the Jūjūshinron (十住心論). It was submitted as dissertation to Kōyasan University by Sanja Jurković Schmidt in March 2009. It is not published as a book, but can be accessed through the libary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.8.92.97 ( talk) 13:49, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
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I'm new to Wikipedia so sorry if my etiquette is poor, or if this has been litigated before, but I was wondering why newer artwork for a figure such as Kūkai isn't used here. Plenty of higher quality (in terms of legibility at least) artwork exists such as this one from Daishin art, which I feel could give readers a better sense of his appearance. I've noticed this as a trend among a lot of Buddhist pages on here (for example Ākāśagarbha, the Thirteen Buddhas, the Diamond Realm mandala, etc.) of using older or more weathered art as opposed to more intact modern works. I admittedly don't know what maybe the copyright side of things would look like for using compemporary religious art, but I feel like some updates along these lines could be helpful. - Jwalaw ( talk) 00:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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I've been thinking about diacritics for this article. I've included them sometimes - usually the first time, but not consistently. I started thinking it would be better to use them as it is more 'correct', but then I realised that any search engine looking at the page would not index kukai, but only kū.kai which isn't going to help anyone find this page.
If anyone has any thought's on this let me know...
According to popular tradition, Kukai is the legendary patron of love between men, having introduced what was held to be a Chinese tradition at the same time as the Shingon teachings. Mount Koya has been a by-word for same-sex relations, in particular for the shudo tradition for hundreds of years. I am surprised this information has been deleted from this article. Haiduc 14:10, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Some sources say that kukai is considered by japanese folklore for being introducted homosexual relations in buddhist monasteries. But the sources concerning that seem to be all written by westerners. This info must be either fully debunked or fully confirmed based on japanese sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.9.174.122 ( talk) 10:08, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
was this the monk who was friends with Musashi and hence of influence on the philosphy of Go-rin-no-sho? 07:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC) Noserider ( talk)
I've read this article a number of times, and I can't get around the fact that it is just too wordy. It seems that the bulk of the contributions are made by people who are almost quoting verbatim source texts. There's no concerted attempt at summarization and citing references, instead of just writing them out. There's plenty of places in the text that could contain one-line statements, and cite longer references below.
The history section for example contains too much background information regarding Emperor Kammu's moving of the capital. That whole section could be removed and just point readers to the Kammu and Heian-period articles instead.
Can't we trim this down? If we want to introduce people to Kukai, then the article needs to be a lot more concise.
The final section on Kukai's contributions is pretty subjective too and either needs to cite more, or just be outright removed.
Ph0kin 05:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
The article currently contains this sentence: "The family fortunes had fallen by 791 when Kūkai journeyed to Nara, the capital at the time". This is incorrect. The capital was moved from Nara to Nagaoka in 784. (See both the articles on Nara and Nagaoka.) -- Westwind273 ( talk) 08:48, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello, the caption of the last image says:
Monks bringing food to Kōbō Daishi on Mount Kōya, as they believe he is not dead but rather meditating. They feed him every day and change his clothes. No one except the highest monks are allowed to see him.
Can you please provide more detail and references for that? Thanks, -- Emdee ( talk) 16:06, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
There is in fact a translation of the second part (Chapters 5-10) of the Jūjūshinron (十住心論). It was submitted as dissertation to Kōyasan University by Sanja Jurković Schmidt in March 2009. It is not published as a book, but can be accessed through the libary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.8.92.97 ( talk) 13:49, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
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I'm new to Wikipedia so sorry if my etiquette is poor, or if this has been litigated before, but I was wondering why newer artwork for a figure such as Kūkai isn't used here. Plenty of higher quality (in terms of legibility at least) artwork exists such as this one from Daishin art, which I feel could give readers a better sense of his appearance. I've noticed this as a trend among a lot of Buddhist pages on here (for example Ākāśagarbha, the Thirteen Buddhas, the Diamond Realm mandala, etc.) of using older or more weathered art as opposed to more intact modern works. I admittedly don't know what maybe the copyright side of things would look like for using compemporary religious art, but I feel like some updates along these lines could be helpful. - Jwalaw ( talk) 00:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC)