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Unfortunately, there are journals which are not at all scientific.
Yours truly,-- Ludvikus 05:59, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
To compensate for the fact that Wikipedia automatically classifies a {{ journal-stub}} as SCIENTIFIC I have ellected to classify this antisemitic periodical as a comic book--until we ressolve the issue of this journal not being SCIENTIFIC!!! Yours truly,-- Ludvikus 06:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
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@ Randykitty: You have restored a template which is explicitly designed for academic journals, as is stated in the template's documentation. The sources already on the article, and the text of the article, make clear this is not an academic journal. Why have you done so? Cambial — foliar❧ 20:02, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
So we have one highly reliable source which explicitly states it is a magazine and indicates that its claims to be an academic journal are fraudulent. As you implicitly concede, there are none which refer to it as an academic journal. There are also a significant number of other other scholarly sources which state it is a pseudoacademic or pseudoscientific publication. pseudēs from the Greek meaning false, or to lie. As we have sourcing for magazine, and none for "academic journal", the latter's use here is inappropriate. Cambial — foliar❧ 22:22, 11 January 2023 (UTC)The IHR, which publishes The Journal of Historical Review, offers another interesting case. The Journal first appeared in 1980, and was intended, in the words of the publisher, "primarily for academics." In January 1993 they changed their format to a glossy magazine and the publisher observed, "We are expanding The Journal. We are making it even more interesting for a bigger circle of readers."'9 They are also, in the words of the editor, making "more generous use of photographs." Still, these people yearn for academic respectability in the greatest way: they make a point of advertising that of the twenty-six members on the advisory board, nineteen have Ph.D.s or the equivalent. The editors also boast on the first page of every issue that The Journal of Historical Review is listed in standard periodical directories and is a member of the Conference of Historical Journals. The quest for respectability also in- duces them to claim that they "continue in the tradition of Historical Revisionism of scholars such as...A.J.P. Taylor." An endorsement by the "mainstream" historian John Toland has also been utilized, even though he never appears to address the issue of the gas chambers.21 In fact, the magazine is shockingly racist and anti-Semitic: articles on "America's Failed Racial Policy" and anti-Israel pieces accompany those concerning the gas-chambers. One recent description of a protest aimed at one of the movement's leading figures described the "crowd of Marxists, Jews, homosexuals and Rastafarians...." They clearly have no business claiming to be a continuation of the revisionist tradition, and should be referred to as "Holocaust deniers."
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Can we all agree that this magazine is an unreliable source? Some people on Wikipedia wrongly think it is ok to cite the source to be "neutral" because apparently us Wikipedia editors are not supposed to be biased against Nazi propaganda. -- QazyQazyQazaqstan ( talk) 23:39, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
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Unfortunately, there are journals which are not at all scientific.
Yours truly,-- Ludvikus 05:59, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
To compensate for the fact that Wikipedia automatically classifies a {{ journal-stub}} as SCIENTIFIC I have ellected to classify this antisemitic periodical as a comic book--until we ressolve the issue of this journal not being SCIENTIFIC!!! Yours truly,-- Ludvikus 06:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
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@ Randykitty: You have restored a template which is explicitly designed for academic journals, as is stated in the template's documentation. The sources already on the article, and the text of the article, make clear this is not an academic journal. Why have you done so? Cambial — foliar❧ 20:02, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
So we have one highly reliable source which explicitly states it is a magazine and indicates that its claims to be an academic journal are fraudulent. As you implicitly concede, there are none which refer to it as an academic journal. There are also a significant number of other other scholarly sources which state it is a pseudoacademic or pseudoscientific publication. pseudēs from the Greek meaning false, or to lie. As we have sourcing for magazine, and none for "academic journal", the latter's use here is inappropriate. Cambial — foliar❧ 22:22, 11 January 2023 (UTC)The IHR, which publishes The Journal of Historical Review, offers another interesting case. The Journal first appeared in 1980, and was intended, in the words of the publisher, "primarily for academics." In January 1993 they changed their format to a glossy magazine and the publisher observed, "We are expanding The Journal. We are making it even more interesting for a bigger circle of readers."'9 They are also, in the words of the editor, making "more generous use of photographs." Still, these people yearn for academic respectability in the greatest way: they make a point of advertising that of the twenty-six members on the advisory board, nineteen have Ph.D.s or the equivalent. The editors also boast on the first page of every issue that The Journal of Historical Review is listed in standard periodical directories and is a member of the Conference of Historical Journals. The quest for respectability also in- duces them to claim that they "continue in the tradition of Historical Revisionism of scholars such as...A.J.P. Taylor." An endorsement by the "mainstream" historian John Toland has also been utilized, even though he never appears to address the issue of the gas chambers.21 In fact, the magazine is shockingly racist and anti-Semitic: articles on "America's Failed Racial Policy" and anti-Israel pieces accompany those concerning the gas-chambers. One recent description of a protest aimed at one of the movement's leading figures described the "crowd of Marxists, Jews, homosexuals and Rastafarians...." They clearly have no business claiming to be a continuation of the revisionist tradition, and should be referred to as "Holocaust deniers."
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Can we all agree that this magazine is an unreliable source? Some people on Wikipedia wrongly think it is ok to cite the source to be "neutral" because apparently us Wikipedia editors are not supposed to be biased against Nazi propaganda. -- QazyQazyQazaqstan ( talk) 23:39, 16 October 2023 (UTC)