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There seems to be a lot of confusion over the two.
Please take note that they are different; Johnny & Associates (aka Johnny's Jimusho) is a talent agency whilst Johnny's Entertainment is a record label. Please take care and do not mistake one for another. Frozencrumbz ( talk) 07:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
My understanding about Johnny & Associates is that they do not allow web sites to post photos of their people without some sort of a license. I understand that within Wikipedia, it is okay to upload a photo under the guidelines that the photo was provided by the agency for promotional purposes. However, I believe that Johnny's employees are the exception. If you go to the official web sites, you don't see photos of any of the employees. Also, when you view TV drama web pages, photos of Johnny's people are always removed or replaced with a silhouette. I've also read throughout the Internet about Johnny's attorneys emailing various fansites, asking them to take the photos down. If it is true that the use of photos without a license from Johnny is illegal, we should remove these photos from all the Johnny-related articles within Wikipedia. If you look at the Japanese Wikipedia, they contain no photos on any of the Johnny-related articles. Groink 01:47, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
An update... According to several articles I've read on Wikipedia regarding fair use (or non-fair use), Japan does not have a law in the books regarding fair use. This explains why the Japanese Wikipedia lack promotional photos of any kind. And, it makes it easy for any talent agency like Johnny to police the Internet of images. Even though the Wikipedia servers sit on U.S. soil, the laws set by the country of origin for a given photo takes precedence over any U.S. law. This came up recently because Wikipedia is trying to clean itself of fair use images, in order to comply with GFDL guidelines. Groink ( talk) 06:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Since this page is about Johnny's Entertainment, as in the company itself, shouldn't the "sexual harassment claims" section be moved to Johnny Kitagawa's page? -- Tydus Arandor 22:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
If you click on the link to Jr's "M.A.D." you come to a page about warfare. I don't think this is right. Can someone change this please (I don't know how, sorry) Traumjaegerin, 5 January 2007
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Could you guys stop copying our work and take the god damn time that we spent on writing up formats and articles, and do it on your own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.175.13 ( talk) 15:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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Given that this talent agency is by far the most famous in Japan, and represents a vast majority of the most popular acts, there's no way that just one lawsuit deserves such a major place--the second paragraph of the lead. This is definitely WP:UNDUE. Could someone please move it and figure out a more appropriate prominence? I do not edit articles directly.
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I would like to ask the reason why the fact that J&A opening SNS for itself is not notable. The company is recognized for being closed up. I think the fact that opening SNS for itself as well as for the artists is important, as it proves (in a way) J&A's opening and reaching out to the world, even more when their first post (and most of all subsequent) have been in English. In this new era of Johnny's, I think that this information should be displayed for people to learn. The information (along with it's link) was included in the article, and has been removed during the recent rearranging. SugaShikaoFans ( talk) 02:32, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
I have noticed that many articles reporting on the rebranding of the company are referring to it as Smile-Up in the articles, with a hyphen. In some areas of the Wikipedia article referring to the new name, there is no hyphen (admittedly some of those edits being my own). Should the company title in the Wikipedia article change to Smile-Up with a hyphen? JRHorse ( talk) 12:16, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Per consensus, WP:TOOSOON] ( closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky ( talk) 01:03, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Johnny & Associates → Smile-Up! – The company was renamed to Smile-Up! on October 17, 2023 in the wake of the sexual harassment scandal revolving around the former founder Johnny Kitagawa who passed away in 2019. The company even received a new logo. The company will be abolished once every victim of the harassment has received compensation. Goroth ( talk) 08:40, 29 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 16:49, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
It looks like Smile-Up is only a temporary division meant for reparations to Johnny's victims (if I remember correctly) because the talent agency itself is going to be renamed Starto Entertainment per this article. We should probably include this in the main article. lullabying ( talk) 04:16, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I would like to know why "2024: A new start for entertainment with Starto" would be considered "Flowery", if I only stated it would be a new start for the agency, in regard to the entertainment side? As for the terms used, considering the wording given as examples in the reference given by @ Lullabying, I did not use any of them. Isn't it the truth that 2024 would be a new start for the agency's entertainment side? If using the phrase as a section is wrong, what about using it as a subsection for the company's rebranding? SugaShikaoFans ( talk) 23:48, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
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There seems to be a lot of confusion over the two.
Please take note that they are different; Johnny & Associates (aka Johnny's Jimusho) is a talent agency whilst Johnny's Entertainment is a record label. Please take care and do not mistake one for another. Frozencrumbz ( talk) 07:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
My understanding about Johnny & Associates is that they do not allow web sites to post photos of their people without some sort of a license. I understand that within Wikipedia, it is okay to upload a photo under the guidelines that the photo was provided by the agency for promotional purposes. However, I believe that Johnny's employees are the exception. If you go to the official web sites, you don't see photos of any of the employees. Also, when you view TV drama web pages, photos of Johnny's people are always removed or replaced with a silhouette. I've also read throughout the Internet about Johnny's attorneys emailing various fansites, asking them to take the photos down. If it is true that the use of photos without a license from Johnny is illegal, we should remove these photos from all the Johnny-related articles within Wikipedia. If you look at the Japanese Wikipedia, they contain no photos on any of the Johnny-related articles. Groink 01:47, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
An update... According to several articles I've read on Wikipedia regarding fair use (or non-fair use), Japan does not have a law in the books regarding fair use. This explains why the Japanese Wikipedia lack promotional photos of any kind. And, it makes it easy for any talent agency like Johnny to police the Internet of images. Even though the Wikipedia servers sit on U.S. soil, the laws set by the country of origin for a given photo takes precedence over any U.S. law. This came up recently because Wikipedia is trying to clean itself of fair use images, in order to comply with GFDL guidelines. Groink ( talk) 06:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Since this page is about Johnny's Entertainment, as in the company itself, shouldn't the "sexual harassment claims" section be moved to Johnny Kitagawa's page? -- Tydus Arandor 22:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
If you click on the link to Jr's "M.A.D." you come to a page about warfare. I don't think this is right. Can someone change this please (I don't know how, sorry) Traumjaegerin, 5 January 2007
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Given that this talent agency is by far the most famous in Japan, and represents a vast majority of the most popular acts, there's no way that just one lawsuit deserves such a major place--the second paragraph of the lead. This is definitely WP:UNDUE. Could someone please move it and figure out a more appropriate prominence? I do not edit articles directly.
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I would like to ask the reason why the fact that J&A opening SNS for itself is not notable. The company is recognized for being closed up. I think the fact that opening SNS for itself as well as for the artists is important, as it proves (in a way) J&A's opening and reaching out to the world, even more when their first post (and most of all subsequent) have been in English. In this new era of Johnny's, I think that this information should be displayed for people to learn. The information (along with it's link) was included in the article, and has been removed during the recent rearranging. SugaShikaoFans ( talk) 02:32, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
I have noticed that many articles reporting on the rebranding of the company are referring to it as Smile-Up in the articles, with a hyphen. In some areas of the Wikipedia article referring to the new name, there is no hyphen (admittedly some of those edits being my own). Should the company title in the Wikipedia article change to Smile-Up with a hyphen? JRHorse ( talk) 12:16, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Per consensus, WP:TOOSOON] ( closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky ( talk) 01:03, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Johnny & Associates → Smile-Up! – The company was renamed to Smile-Up! on October 17, 2023 in the wake of the sexual harassment scandal revolving around the former founder Johnny Kitagawa who passed away in 2019. The company even received a new logo. The company will be abolished once every victim of the harassment has received compensation. Goroth ( talk) 08:40, 29 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 16:49, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
It looks like Smile-Up is only a temporary division meant for reparations to Johnny's victims (if I remember correctly) because the talent agency itself is going to be renamed Starto Entertainment per this article. We should probably include this in the main article. lullabying ( talk) 04:16, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I would like to know why "2024: A new start for entertainment with Starto" would be considered "Flowery", if I only stated it would be a new start for the agency, in regard to the entertainment side? As for the terms used, considering the wording given as examples in the reference given by @ Lullabying, I did not use any of them. Isn't it the truth that 2024 would be a new start for the agency's entertainment side? If using the phrase as a section is wrong, what about using it as a subsection for the company's rebranding? SugaShikaoFans ( talk) 23:48, 1 March 2024 (UTC)