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Could someone please put up an image of this guy? 71.110.128.78 ( talk) 23:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I did. It should be fair use since he is now deceased.-- Harbinger1991 ( talk) 02:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
That is not how fair use works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.165.16 ( talk) 00:04, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Someone changed his current location from Wisconsin to "the Chicago area" and then Chicago without citing a source. I changed it back to Wisconsin and cited a source. Tap1981 ( talk) 20:48, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Please do not add any information about his death unless it is reliably sourced or it will be removed. Thank you. Wperdue ( talk) 21:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
His fatal heart attack occurred whilst he was walking in the street. The many media reports don't say if he actually died there, before an ambulance could arrive at the scene. Does anyone know? Information yes ( talk) 10:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
How many previous heart attacks had he suffered? Information yes ( talk) 10:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Anthony Michael Hall worked on several of John Hughes films, as did Chevy Chase. Also the wording should be changed to incorporate gender indifference rather than just stating "Actors who have appeared in more than one Hughes production include" Yahoofx ( talk) 21:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
What happened with that table that was in there? I thought that was cool. I'd put it back myself, but I don't want it deleted. Why was it deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.27.39.238 ( talk) 02:46, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Needed attention per WP:EL. Thanks, -- Tom (talk) 18:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
I find the qualifier of "director" to be insufficient. Hughes was primarily a writer and producer; he wrote over 30 films, 23 of which he also produced. He only directed eight of those films. I recommend moving the article to John Hughes (filmmaker), which would better encompass all of his occupations. -- From Andoria with Love ( talk) 02:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
I removed an un-sourced claim that the last photograph of him in public was taken in 2001.
Bongo matic 14:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Buried or cremated? Correct & improve ( talk) 18:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
The Death section states he was there to visit family, but does not state who. Correct & improve ( talk) 18:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
maybe the filmography should be arranged in a table, as there is considerable crossover where JH has fulfilled more than one role in creating the film. I was thinking something like the way Guillermo del Toro's filmography is arranged
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_del_Toro#Filmography
might be better
There is a problem with the last sentence of the Careers section on the main page. It states the following, citing two sources:
"He became a voting Republican, after being disenchanted with the Hollywood left."
One of the two sources, the Slate article, contains absolutely no verification of the voting record of John Hughes or any verification of disillusionment with the Hollywood left. The piece is a dramatic analysis of the man's works combined with some tangential information about P.J. O'Rourke. It merely attempts to use his work to try and claim he was a closet conservative, without actually offering any facts from Mr. Hughes' life or career that directly substantiate the claims of the sentence in this article. There is absolutely no support of the sentence's two premises anywhere in the article. The second source is an offline source which I am in the process of obtaining. I am removing the Slate citation from the sentence in question, but leaving it in the footnotes for now. I will remove the other source and alter the sentence as necessary if it turns out to have no supportive information for the claims made.
I think it is worth noting that the documentary Don't You Forget About Me, which includes numerous interviews of Hughes' friends and former associates contains exactly no references to anything supporting this sentence and goes so far as to indirectly contradict the sentence by laying out the premise that Hughes' was disillusioned with the film industry and that is why he withdrew from Hollywood, without in any way referencing his supposed political convictions.
Mac.bh ( talk) 06:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no concensus.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk)
12:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
John Hughes (filmmaker) →
John Hughes —
ManymerrymenmakingmuchmoneyinthemonthofMay says that noting the tribute isn't necessary to understand John Hughes' life, but I disagree. I think it's notable, since the Academy Awards is a big event, and his tribute was far, far bigger than what was done to note the deaths of any other members of Hollywood in 2009. I think it clearly illustrates the man's deep and lasting impact on a large part of Hollywood, and American culture. My version of the comment on his tribute doesn't include a laundry list of actors, but does note that it was a significant moment. I think that's reasonable. Torchiest ( talk) 14:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
The Oscars have done a lot of tributes for a lot of people without those tributes getting listed in their Wikipedia bios. It does not belong. MMMMMMMM ( talk) 18:59, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page not moved: no concensus and is now in the backlog. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 08:57, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
John Hughes (filmmaker) →
John Hughes –
Primary topic. Filmmaker and redirects:
61,785,
431,
273. Others:
601,
527,
373,
244,
212,
183,
162,
161,
140,
128,
128,
121,
113,
94,
91,
87,
72,
71,
58,
55,
48,
36. Partial title matches:
256,
92,
80,
75,
69,
53. 62,489 versus 3705 + 625 (partial title matches) = filmmaker primary topic.
Marcus
Qwertyus
08:19, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
This is what's in the article as I write this. Which one is it? Arizona State University|The University of Arizona
Ommnomnomgulp ( talk) 00:00, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
John Candy was a very well-established comic actor and star of the sketch show " Second City Television." I have removed it from the list of actors' careers he "launched." leica 07:12, 30 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leica0000 ( talk • contribs)
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Could someone please put up an image of this guy? 71.110.128.78 ( talk) 23:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I did. It should be fair use since he is now deceased.-- Harbinger1991 ( talk) 02:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
That is not how fair use works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.165.16 ( talk) 00:04, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Someone changed his current location from Wisconsin to "the Chicago area" and then Chicago without citing a source. I changed it back to Wisconsin and cited a source. Tap1981 ( talk) 20:48, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Please do not add any information about his death unless it is reliably sourced or it will be removed. Thank you. Wperdue ( talk) 21:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
His fatal heart attack occurred whilst he was walking in the street. The many media reports don't say if he actually died there, before an ambulance could arrive at the scene. Does anyone know? Information yes ( talk) 10:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
How many previous heart attacks had he suffered? Information yes ( talk) 10:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Anthony Michael Hall worked on several of John Hughes films, as did Chevy Chase. Also the wording should be changed to incorporate gender indifference rather than just stating "Actors who have appeared in more than one Hughes production include" Yahoofx ( talk) 21:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
What happened with that table that was in there? I thought that was cool. I'd put it back myself, but I don't want it deleted. Why was it deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.27.39.238 ( talk) 02:46, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Needed attention per WP:EL. Thanks, -- Tom (talk) 18:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
I find the qualifier of "director" to be insufficient. Hughes was primarily a writer and producer; he wrote over 30 films, 23 of which he also produced. He only directed eight of those films. I recommend moving the article to John Hughes (filmmaker), which would better encompass all of his occupations. -- From Andoria with Love ( talk) 02:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
I removed an un-sourced claim that the last photograph of him in public was taken in 2001.
Bongo matic 14:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Buried or cremated? Correct & improve ( talk) 18:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
The Death section states he was there to visit family, but does not state who. Correct & improve ( talk) 18:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
maybe the filmography should be arranged in a table, as there is considerable crossover where JH has fulfilled more than one role in creating the film. I was thinking something like the way Guillermo del Toro's filmography is arranged
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_del_Toro#Filmography
might be better
There is a problem with the last sentence of the Careers section on the main page. It states the following, citing two sources:
"He became a voting Republican, after being disenchanted with the Hollywood left."
One of the two sources, the Slate article, contains absolutely no verification of the voting record of John Hughes or any verification of disillusionment with the Hollywood left. The piece is a dramatic analysis of the man's works combined with some tangential information about P.J. O'Rourke. It merely attempts to use his work to try and claim he was a closet conservative, without actually offering any facts from Mr. Hughes' life or career that directly substantiate the claims of the sentence in this article. There is absolutely no support of the sentence's two premises anywhere in the article. The second source is an offline source which I am in the process of obtaining. I am removing the Slate citation from the sentence in question, but leaving it in the footnotes for now. I will remove the other source and alter the sentence as necessary if it turns out to have no supportive information for the claims made.
I think it is worth noting that the documentary Don't You Forget About Me, which includes numerous interviews of Hughes' friends and former associates contains exactly no references to anything supporting this sentence and goes so far as to indirectly contradict the sentence by laying out the premise that Hughes' was disillusioned with the film industry and that is why he withdrew from Hollywood, without in any way referencing his supposed political convictions.
Mac.bh ( talk) 06:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no concensus.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk)
12:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
John Hughes (filmmaker) →
John Hughes —
ManymerrymenmakingmuchmoneyinthemonthofMay says that noting the tribute isn't necessary to understand John Hughes' life, but I disagree. I think it's notable, since the Academy Awards is a big event, and his tribute was far, far bigger than what was done to note the deaths of any other members of Hollywood in 2009. I think it clearly illustrates the man's deep and lasting impact on a large part of Hollywood, and American culture. My version of the comment on his tribute doesn't include a laundry list of actors, but does note that it was a significant moment. I think that's reasonable. Torchiest ( talk) 14:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
The Oscars have done a lot of tributes for a lot of people without those tributes getting listed in their Wikipedia bios. It does not belong. MMMMMMMM ( talk) 18:59, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page not moved: no concensus and is now in the backlog. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 08:57, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
John Hughes (filmmaker) →
John Hughes –
Primary topic. Filmmaker and redirects:
61,785,
431,
273. Others:
601,
527,
373,
244,
212,
183,
162,
161,
140,
128,
128,
121,
113,
94,
91,
87,
72,
71,
58,
55,
48,
36. Partial title matches:
256,
92,
80,
75,
69,
53. 62,489 versus 3705 + 625 (partial title matches) = filmmaker primary topic.
Marcus
Qwertyus
08:19, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
This is what's in the article as I write this. Which one is it? Arizona State University|The University of Arizona
Ommnomnomgulp ( talk) 00:00, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
John Candy was a very well-established comic actor and star of the sketch show " Second City Television." I have removed it from the list of actors' careers he "launched." leica 07:12, 30 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leica0000 ( talk • contribs)
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