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The German article on this man is far more detailed than the English. And he is English. Any translators would be welcome.
Gardiner studied history, not music, at Cambridge. See the linked interview. I'm making the correction. 69.12.144.158 21:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Gardiner's hardly an uncontroversial character - doesn't something about that need to be included also? Attitudes towards performance, arguments with colleagues and critics ( Lebrecht), and so forth
I did a major rewrite of the article. Most notably:
There are still several weaknesses:
86.95.71.60 18:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
I have added the cleanup tag, since this article is in serious need of improvement. Grammar, style, punctuation, etc., all need much attention. I will do what I can when I can, but I encourage others to help too! -- Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 21:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
How come this article is B-class, yet it is a biographical article that needs more citations? George8211 conversations 08:34, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
I have removed the postnominal letters FKC from the first sentence, on the basis that is it not conventional to indicate honorary degrees in this way (see List of post-nominal letters (United Kingdom). I have left this award in the Honours and awards section. Verbcatcher ( talk) 20:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
The article says "In 1968 he founded the Monteverdi Orchestra. Upon changing from modern instruments to period instruments in 1977, the orchestra changed its name to the English Baroque Soloists." Is this true, or was one orchestra wound up and a new one founded with specialist period instrument players? There is no reference to the Monteverdi Orchestra in the English Baroque Soloists article. Can someone please check this, and if necessary update both articles and set up a new page or a redirect for Monteverdi Orchestra. Verbcatcher ( talk) 20:23, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
We talk about the rudeness of Toscanini, Kathleen Battle and others. Why not Gardiner? [1] [2] etc. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 21:48, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
If one met the great man would he invite one to call him John or John-Eliot (putting aside his spoken-of rudeness)? I suppose the latter is no odder than John-Paul or Jean-Michel. If the invitation to be familiar was not forthcoming would one call him Sir John or Sir J-E. Sebmelmoth ( talk) 13:23, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
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It makes no sense to revert the link to Bach. Links are in place to help users navigate the encyclopedia, to claim that readers can do this through the Magnificat link which I added at the same time is a new take on how wikipedia works, one I am not in agreement with. Bach is a highly relevant part of Gardiner's life and therefore definitely we should be linking to the main article on him. Links aren't a bad thing. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 18:12, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
[[Magnificat (Bach)|Johann Sebastian Bach's ''Magnificat'']]
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Hello, I have modified a reference to an Italian University in the "Honours and awards" section (changed "University of Pavia" with "University of Mantova"). It appears the old name was wrongly copied from the external website quoted; anyway Monteverdi's birthpace was Mantova, not Pavia. Regards Vbrm ( talk) 09:38, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
It is probably misleading to say that Gardiner "studied history, Arabic, and medieval Spanish at King's College, Cambridge". We say that he graduated "with a master's degree in history". A Cambridge MA does not involve postgraduate study (see Master of Arts (Oxford, Cambridge, and Dublin)). It seems that his only formal university study was his undergraduate degree course in history, and that Arabic and medieval Spanish were elective components of this degree course. An offline source is cited for this. We should either delete Arabic and medieval Spanish or clarify the context. Verbcatcher ( talk) 10:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
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The German article on this man is far more detailed than the English. And he is English. Any translators would be welcome.
Gardiner studied history, not music, at Cambridge. See the linked interview. I'm making the correction. 69.12.144.158 21:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Gardiner's hardly an uncontroversial character - doesn't something about that need to be included also? Attitudes towards performance, arguments with colleagues and critics ( Lebrecht), and so forth
I did a major rewrite of the article. Most notably:
There are still several weaknesses:
86.95.71.60 18:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
I have added the cleanup tag, since this article is in serious need of improvement. Grammar, style, punctuation, etc., all need much attention. I will do what I can when I can, but I encourage others to help too! -- Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 21:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
How come this article is B-class, yet it is a biographical article that needs more citations? George8211 conversations 08:34, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
I have removed the postnominal letters FKC from the first sentence, on the basis that is it not conventional to indicate honorary degrees in this way (see List of post-nominal letters (United Kingdom). I have left this award in the Honours and awards section. Verbcatcher ( talk) 20:09, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
The article says "In 1968 he founded the Monteverdi Orchestra. Upon changing from modern instruments to period instruments in 1977, the orchestra changed its name to the English Baroque Soloists." Is this true, or was one orchestra wound up and a new one founded with specialist period instrument players? There is no reference to the Monteverdi Orchestra in the English Baroque Soloists article. Can someone please check this, and if necessary update both articles and set up a new page or a redirect for Monteverdi Orchestra. Verbcatcher ( talk) 20:23, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
We talk about the rudeness of Toscanini, Kathleen Battle and others. Why not Gardiner? [1] [2] etc. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 21:48, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
If one met the great man would he invite one to call him John or John-Eliot (putting aside his spoken-of rudeness)? I suppose the latter is no odder than John-Paul or Jean-Michel. If the invitation to be familiar was not forthcoming would one call him Sir John or Sir J-E. Sebmelmoth ( talk) 13:23, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
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It makes no sense to revert the link to Bach. Links are in place to help users navigate the encyclopedia, to claim that readers can do this through the Magnificat link which I added at the same time is a new take on how wikipedia works, one I am not in agreement with. Bach is a highly relevant part of Gardiner's life and therefore definitely we should be linking to the main article on him. Links aren't a bad thing. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 18:12, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
[[Magnificat (Bach)|Johann Sebastian Bach's ''Magnificat'']]
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Hello, I have modified a reference to an Italian University in the "Honours and awards" section (changed "University of Pavia" with "University of Mantova"). It appears the old name was wrongly copied from the external website quoted; anyway Monteverdi's birthpace was Mantova, not Pavia. Regards Vbrm ( talk) 09:38, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
It is probably misleading to say that Gardiner "studied history, Arabic, and medieval Spanish at King's College, Cambridge". We say that he graduated "with a master's degree in history". A Cambridge MA does not involve postgraduate study (see Master of Arts (Oxford, Cambridge, and Dublin)). It seems that his only formal university study was his undergraduate degree course in history, and that Arabic and medieval Spanish were elective components of this degree course. An offline source is cited for this. We should either delete Arabic and medieval Spanish or clarify the context. Verbcatcher ( talk) 10:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)