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It appears that contrary to the current content of the article, tickets are being sold for JT tour in Fall 2016: http://www.songkick.com/artists/111953-jethro-tull Would be nice if someone could update the article with whatever is the background of this (presumed) comeback... 2602:306:835D:E270:C8BE:684C:2487:42FB ( talk) 05:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
On the other hand, Jethro Tull (billed as such, and described as such by Ian Anderson in interviews) played at Bluesfest in Byron Bay, Australia, in April 2017. I believe that they also had a couple of shows around the country. 2017, and probably not a tour though. [1] and [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.35.82.168 ( talk) 23:59, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
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@ RealTull: Here, I've started the discussion for you. Please describe your concerns for the band's timeline. Mlpearc ( open channel) 14:30, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
The timeline is inaccurate and you keep reverting my changes. The timeline does not reflect the content of the article or the album articles. It does not reflect the liner notes. It does not even reflect the listing of years in the text above it. This is simple matter. It has no references currently so according to you the whole thing should be deleted, yes? RealTull ( talk) 16:32, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Unsourced, POV'd, amateurish, non-historical. Ugh. Should be scrapped and re-written from the ground up. 104.169.37.15 ( talk) 04:16, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
"The album treats of prehistory to the future forecasted eight thousand years of human migration."
This appears in the "After Tull" section and appears to make no sense. Anyone have an idea of the intended thought? THX1136 ( talk) 19:31, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
There seem to be some unclear information regarding the 50th anniversary tour. One source says the line-up will consist of the entirety of Ian Anderson's live band, while others say the line-up will include Martin Barre and Doane Perry.
Can we even say with full certainty that Jethro Tull is active again to begin with? ( TheWiselyStupidOne ( talk) 08:40, 3 September 2017 (UTC))
One thing that is certain. There will be no Barre and no Perry. It will be Ian Anderson with the band that he has been touring with since 2011. This article makes it quite clear. "The longtime frontman and songwriter for Jethro Tull continues to play that group’s best-loved songs but now goes by his name rather than that of the group." AND "He formally ended Jethro Tull a few years ago, figuring it was probably time that it was his name on the marquee." This was from August, 2017. Others on here appear to be less certain and still seem to want to claim that a Jethro Tull reformation has taken place. SMH!-- Hooter13 ( talk) 02:54, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
Just a long-time Tull fan chiming in. The line is obviously blurred on the official Jethro Tull site since Ian Anderson is also using it for his solo work, but as I am observing it the current tour is Ian Anderson is presenting a Jethro Tull 50th anniversary tour as a "tribute" more than he just decided one day that his longtime solo band is now Jethro Tull.
A number of users are editing the Jethro Tull information page and claiming that the band has reformed. The band has not reformed.
Jethro Tull broke up when Martin Barre left the band. Ian Anderson has toured as Ian Anderson since 2011. There is a setlist site here:
https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/jethro-tull-3d6b523.html As you can see, the last setlist for Jethro Tull was July 31, 2011.
Ian Anderson setlists begin after that: https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/ian-anderson-1bd69578.html
Other references for you: https://www.songkick.com/artists/111953-jethro-tull
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/apr/15/ian-anderson-end-of-jethro-tull Ian Anderson has called an end to Jethro Tull, announcing that from here on out he will record and tour exclusively under his own name. After half a century and almost two dozen albums, Anderson said he is ready for Jethro Tull to live on as "the vast body of [its] repertoire".
Ian Anderson has never stated that the band is reforming, only that there will be a 50th anniversary to celebrate the music of Jethro Tull. Stating that the band has reformed is misleading. They have not. The confusion stems from the fact that Ian uses "Jethro Tull" in naming his tours such as "Jethro Tull by Ian Anderson" or "The Best of Jethro Tull". He does this because of the name recognition and to help sell tickets. He is entitled to do this; after all there would never have been a "Jethro Tull" without Ian Anderson. Unless Ian gets together with Martin Barre, there will not be a reformation. The current band is Ian Anderson's band, not Jethro Tull, and has been since 2012, though two of them, O'Hara and Goodier, did play in the last incarnation of Tull.
Moved from Talk:Jethro Tull, I missed guided the posting user. - FlightTime ( open channel) 01:59, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
I was the original posting user.-- Hooter13 ( talk) 13:27, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you to FlightTime for moving my post above. The 50th anniversary tour is not a reformation of Jethro Tull. As Ian Anderson has stated: “I am not usually a birthday or anniversary kind of guy but, just for once, I won’t be a party-pooper either! I treasure the memories of the earlier years of Jethro Tull repertoire, associated as it is with the adventures of visiting so many countries for the first time to connect with new fans around the world. And this is a celebration of all the 33 band members who graced our ranks – musicians who brought their talents, skills and styles to bear on the performances live and in the studio. Join me and the current band for a nostalgic evening of varied music, representative of my ever-changing songwriting as our careers progressed through the years.” Notice that Ian has stated the "current band".
The current band is Ian Anderson's band - not Jethro Tull. My sources are listed in the previous section. There will be no Martin Barre and no Doane Perry. I have suggested an edit of the page to reflect the fact that "Jethro Tull" has not toured since 2011. All subsequent tours are lablled as Ian Anderson tours as indicated here: https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/jethro-tull-3d6b523.html and here: https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/ian-anderson-1bd69578.html
Jethro Tull is no more. It is Ian Anderson playing the music of Jethro Tull.
( Hooter13 ( talk) 13:23, 29 September 2017 (UTC))
I am not sure why it has been suggested that I started an edit war. I changed an information page because I saw incorrect information. Please....read the links that I posted. Jethro Tull is no more. It is now Ian Anderson and his accompanying band playing the music of Jethro Tull. Ian Anderson has made that quite clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hooter13 ( talk • contribs) -- Hooter13 ( talk) 16:38, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
See this article here for a more recent take on the matter and a quote from Anderson. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 21:44, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Personally, I do not think the issue is unclear. Neither do the people on the https://www.setlist.fm/ Website. They are sticklers for detail and accuracy. There has not been a Jethro Tull concert since July 31, 2011. All concerts since that date have been billed as Ian Anderson concerts, but as I mentioned, the confusion stems from the fact the Ian often uses "Jethro Tull" as part of his tour name. Also there is a Facebook group I belong to ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/tullgroup/) and have come across some of the most knowledgeable Tull fans anywhere. Some even personally know Ian and/or Martin and they too will tell you that both Ian and Martin are now solo artists, each with their own band. It was a comment there, expressing bewilderment about the reformation section here that led me to the edit I made. So yes, Ian still has a band; it is just not called Jethro Tull.-- Hooter13 ( talk) 22:19, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
To answer your questions:
1. Never say never but Ian Anderson stated the following in 2017: "But I think I prefer, in my twilight years, to use my own name for the most part, being composer of virtually all Tull songs and music since 1968.” Both 2012’s Thick as a Brick II and 2014’s Homo Erraticus appeared under his name. https://www.northernexpress.com/news/feature/jethro-tull-frontman-steps-out-on-his-own/
2. No they have not. Since July 31, 2011, all setlists are listed under Ian Anderson's name. https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/ian-anderson-1bd69578.html
3. Yes. Using "Jethro Tull" as part of the tour name has caused confusion among fans. There are even fans out there who think that Ian Anderson is actually Jethro Tull. It sells tickets though, so I understand why he does it and after all Ian is playing the music of Jethro Tull.
4. No they are not. They are Ian Anderson's band, not Jethro Tull.
5. Yes. Ian Anderson's Band.
6. Yes, I think he has ruled this out with the statement: “When I think of Jethro Tull, I think of the repertoire. There were 33 different musicians. When I think of Beethoven, I don’t mean Beethoven the man. We love the music. The same thing applies to Beethoven [as to Jethro Tull] — we think of the repertoire.”
7. Yes. Not sure what you mean by original Tull members, but it is highly unlikely.
8. No. Anderson has made it very clear that without Martin Barre, there is no Jethro Tull.
On a side note, it is also interesting to see that Martin Barre now tours with his own band, like Ian. Martin bills his shows as "Jethro Tull's Martin Barre Band. Like Ian, he is capitalizing on the Tull name. -- Hooter13 ( talk) 03:12, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
You asked me to come up with a more recent source than some that I have used. You cannot get much more recent than Aug. 12, 2017. In this article, it clearly states: "The longtime frontman and songwriter for Jethro Tull continues to play that group’s best-loved songs but now goes by his name rather than that of the group." It goes on: "He formally ended Jethro Tull a few years ago, figuring it was probably time that it was his name on the marquee." Some people seem to understand this. I do. Die hard Tull fans do as I discovered on Facebook. The people over at The Setlist Wiki do. Yes, there still is a band. Yes, the band continues to play the music of Jethro Tull. Whether it is "his current lineup" or "the current lineup" is just a matter of semantics. The shows are billed as Ian Anderson shows with tour names like "Jethro Tull by Ian Anderson" or Ian Anderson plays "The Best of Jethro Tull".
All that being said, I take it your mind is made up. If you wish to provide erroneous information, please feel free to do so. I will attempt no more edits.-- Hooter13 ( talk) 00:27, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
@ FlightTime: Did you even bother to read this article? It is far more current than the article provided by Escape Orbit.-- Hooter13 ( talk) 03:27, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
So how about we take a look at this interview from May 10, 2018. "These days, Anderson still performs Jethro Tull's music, albeit now as a solo artist." Then this: "You are carrying the torch of the group's legacy now as a solo artist through the shows as well as the records. It seems like a testament that the music still touches people after five decades." There is also discussion on the release of a new solo album and of course Ian has released two solo albums since Jethro Tull disbanded in 2011: "Thick as a Brick 2" and Home Erraticus". https://www.popmatters.com/jethro-tull-2018-interview-2566517482.html Hooter13 ( talk) 02:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Regardless of the discussion that has been going on on this talk page as to whether the group has truly reformed or not, I wanted to bring up an edit I made a few weeks back that was removed. I edited the last sentence of the lead (describing the Sep. 2017 reunion) to mention that the newly reunited band does not feature Barre or Perry. I think it would be very important to mention at the very least Barre in this sentence, as the sentence as it is written now can give the impression that some original incarnation of the band has reformed, when the fact as we all know is that the "band" as it is now is still essentially an Anderson solo band and that the second most important member in the band's history is still not present. I think this distinction is worth mentioning and doesn't harm the lead at all. Basil the Bat Lord ( talk) 04:45, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
I agree, without Barre it is indeed an Ian Anderson solo band, so any statement that the band has "reunited" should be qualified as you suggest. Assambrew ( talk) 21:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
This page is the only place I saw saying Tull is reformed. Hey, seriously, fix that. It's laughable. I am a long time Tull fan, a Tullhead, if you wish, I read about it daily and participate in several Tull communities. I would have know if something even close to a return of the band was about to happen. IT'S NOT! Ian Anderson tours under his own name and will continue to do so even in the 50th anniversary tour. Martin Barre will have a anniversary tour also, will we start to call his band Jethro Tull as well?
The facts are as follows: JT is over, Ian tours under his own name. That's OFFICIAL. Any indication otherwise comes from press articles of people who do not know the band's history and got understandably confused that the 50th anniversary tour done by the guy that plays the flute is not JT. Many people think is name is Jethro. The decision that has to be made here is, are we going to make this article reflect confused press articles or dubious statements, or are we going to stick to the FACT that JT is on a break since 2011?
And why 2017? I mean, from 2012 to 2017 there have been many best of JT concerts and tours. By that way of thinking, it was never over!
This article has become a JOKE. It has to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferraz.lucas ( talk • contribs) 10:21, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
An interview from May 10, 2018. "These days, Anderson still performs Jethro Tull's music, albeit now as a solo artist." Then this: "You are carrying the torch of the group's legacy now as a solo artist through the shows as well as the records. It seems like a testament that the music still touches people after five decades." https://www.popmatters.com/jethro-tull-2018-interview-2566517482.html Hooter13 ( talk) 02:40, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
ALL the current members have already been part of the band still labelled Jethro Tull. Barre and Opahle alternated on the guitar in the last phase of the band when it was only touring and not releasing new material; when Barre left, two new studio albums labelled as Ian Anderson were released. I ALWAYS found it moot to differentiate between Tull and Anderson solo since he is the driving force and composes nearly all of the material. The band continuity concerning the personnel was way more in question in 1980. -- 79.223.53.6 ( talk) 22:14, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not done ( non-admin closure) samee talk 07:42, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Jethro Tull (band) →
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"Because he was living in a cold bedsit, Anderson bought a large overcoat to keep him warm, and, along with the flute, it became part of his early stage image." I definitely remember reading or hearing an interview where Anderson stated that the famous coat was a parting gift from his father when Anderson announced he was leaving home and going to London to play music - a move his father was apparently quite skeptical about. In the same interview, he also mentioned that the coat was eventually stolen from a dressing room during an American tour. I'd change this sentence if I could only remember the source. :( Jah77 ( talk) 09:59, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
I find it sad that the Tull keyboard player with the longest tenure with the band does not have his own Wiki page, but simply redirects to the Tull page. I was a big fan of his period with the band. Pekoebrew ( talk) 19:37, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
I have reverted the edit of Basil the Bat Lord, re-adding Andrew Giddings and Jonathan Noyce to the list of "significant members" in the article lead. When I added them originally, it was reverted by Basil who stated that significant members' "contributions to the band or length of service were notable enough to its legacy to warrant mention". I replaced my edit, noting that "Noyce and Giddings are significant members exactly because of their notable lengths of service. Noyce was the 2nd-longest serving bassist, and Giddings the longest serving keyboardist."
Giddings and Noyce should be considered significant members. Basil's stated reason for denying them is demonstrably false: their lengths of service are indeed notable enough to warrant mention. Thank you! (comments from others welcome). Assambrew ( talk) 20:52, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Gonna explain some of my thoughts here:
The lead is I think already kind of long and cluttered and so I think we should be avoiding adding even more onto lists like these. I also just think it’s a slippery slope to be mentioning members who were so far removed from the band’s successful period just because they were “the 2nd longest” of something.
The other members listed in the section I think deserve to be there because they had a significant impact on the band’s sound. I think it’s a huge stretch to say that Giddings or Noyce did during their time with the band. Basil the Bat Lord ( talk) 08:17, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
No explanation, either! With these heavy-handed, insulting, rude tactics why would fools like me waste my time contributing to your project?!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicollector ( talk • contribs)
"@ Masem:" Thank you, Masem. Now that you mentioned it, it makes sense.:-) Musicollector ( talk) 16:04, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
I would simply like to request that someone (other than I) add a 'books' or 'literature' section focused specifically on auto-biographies and biographies (excluding at this point items such as interview transcripts, third-party reviews, etc.). Thank you. 68.36.32.76 ( talk) 15:31, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
The article claims that she played violin and sang with the band, but her linked webpage makes no mention of any musical endeavours, and the original reference no longer mentions her. Is this the correct person ? RGCorris ( talk) 11:42, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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It appears that contrary to the current content of the article, tickets are being sold for JT tour in Fall 2016: http://www.songkick.com/artists/111953-jethro-tull Would be nice if someone could update the article with whatever is the background of this (presumed) comeback... 2602:306:835D:E270:C8BE:684C:2487:42FB ( talk) 05:31, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
On the other hand, Jethro Tull (billed as such, and described as such by Ian Anderson in interviews) played at Bluesfest in Byron Bay, Australia, in April 2017. I believe that they also had a couple of shows around the country. 2017, and probably not a tour though. [1] and [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.35.82.168 ( talk) 23:59, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
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@ RealTull: Here, I've started the discussion for you. Please describe your concerns for the band's timeline. Mlpearc ( open channel) 14:30, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
The timeline is inaccurate and you keep reverting my changes. The timeline does not reflect the content of the article or the album articles. It does not reflect the liner notes. It does not even reflect the listing of years in the text above it. This is simple matter. It has no references currently so according to you the whole thing should be deleted, yes? RealTull ( talk) 16:32, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Unsourced, POV'd, amateurish, non-historical. Ugh. Should be scrapped and re-written from the ground up. 104.169.37.15 ( talk) 04:16, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
"The album treats of prehistory to the future forecasted eight thousand years of human migration."
This appears in the "After Tull" section and appears to make no sense. Anyone have an idea of the intended thought? THX1136 ( talk) 19:31, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
There seem to be some unclear information regarding the 50th anniversary tour. One source says the line-up will consist of the entirety of Ian Anderson's live band, while others say the line-up will include Martin Barre and Doane Perry.
Can we even say with full certainty that Jethro Tull is active again to begin with? ( TheWiselyStupidOne ( talk) 08:40, 3 September 2017 (UTC))
One thing that is certain. There will be no Barre and no Perry. It will be Ian Anderson with the band that he has been touring with since 2011. This article makes it quite clear. "The longtime frontman and songwriter for Jethro Tull continues to play that group’s best-loved songs but now goes by his name rather than that of the group." AND "He formally ended Jethro Tull a few years ago, figuring it was probably time that it was his name on the marquee." This was from August, 2017. Others on here appear to be less certain and still seem to want to claim that a Jethro Tull reformation has taken place. SMH!-- Hooter13 ( talk) 02:54, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
Just a long-time Tull fan chiming in. The line is obviously blurred on the official Jethro Tull site since Ian Anderson is also using it for his solo work, but as I am observing it the current tour is Ian Anderson is presenting a Jethro Tull 50th anniversary tour as a "tribute" more than he just decided one day that his longtime solo band is now Jethro Tull.
A number of users are editing the Jethro Tull information page and claiming that the band has reformed. The band has not reformed.
Jethro Tull broke up when Martin Barre left the band. Ian Anderson has toured as Ian Anderson since 2011. There is a setlist site here:
https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/jethro-tull-3d6b523.html As you can see, the last setlist for Jethro Tull was July 31, 2011.
Ian Anderson setlists begin after that: https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/ian-anderson-1bd69578.html
Other references for you: https://www.songkick.com/artists/111953-jethro-tull
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/apr/15/ian-anderson-end-of-jethro-tull Ian Anderson has called an end to Jethro Tull, announcing that from here on out he will record and tour exclusively under his own name. After half a century and almost two dozen albums, Anderson said he is ready for Jethro Tull to live on as "the vast body of [its] repertoire".
Ian Anderson has never stated that the band is reforming, only that there will be a 50th anniversary to celebrate the music of Jethro Tull. Stating that the band has reformed is misleading. They have not. The confusion stems from the fact that Ian uses "Jethro Tull" in naming his tours such as "Jethro Tull by Ian Anderson" or "The Best of Jethro Tull". He does this because of the name recognition and to help sell tickets. He is entitled to do this; after all there would never have been a "Jethro Tull" without Ian Anderson. Unless Ian gets together with Martin Barre, there will not be a reformation. The current band is Ian Anderson's band, not Jethro Tull, and has been since 2012, though two of them, O'Hara and Goodier, did play in the last incarnation of Tull.
Moved from Talk:Jethro Tull, I missed guided the posting user. - FlightTime ( open channel) 01:59, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
I was the original posting user.-- Hooter13 ( talk) 13:27, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you to FlightTime for moving my post above. The 50th anniversary tour is not a reformation of Jethro Tull. As Ian Anderson has stated: “I am not usually a birthday or anniversary kind of guy but, just for once, I won’t be a party-pooper either! I treasure the memories of the earlier years of Jethro Tull repertoire, associated as it is with the adventures of visiting so many countries for the first time to connect with new fans around the world. And this is a celebration of all the 33 band members who graced our ranks – musicians who brought their talents, skills and styles to bear on the performances live and in the studio. Join me and the current band for a nostalgic evening of varied music, representative of my ever-changing songwriting as our careers progressed through the years.” Notice that Ian has stated the "current band".
The current band is Ian Anderson's band - not Jethro Tull. My sources are listed in the previous section. There will be no Martin Barre and no Doane Perry. I have suggested an edit of the page to reflect the fact that "Jethro Tull" has not toured since 2011. All subsequent tours are lablled as Ian Anderson tours as indicated here: https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/jethro-tull-3d6b523.html and here: https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/ian-anderson-1bd69578.html
Jethro Tull is no more. It is Ian Anderson playing the music of Jethro Tull.
( Hooter13 ( talk) 13:23, 29 September 2017 (UTC))
I am not sure why it has been suggested that I started an edit war. I changed an information page because I saw incorrect information. Please....read the links that I posted. Jethro Tull is no more. It is now Ian Anderson and his accompanying band playing the music of Jethro Tull. Ian Anderson has made that quite clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hooter13 ( talk • contribs) -- Hooter13 ( talk) 16:38, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
See this article here for a more recent take on the matter and a quote from Anderson. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 21:44, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Personally, I do not think the issue is unclear. Neither do the people on the https://www.setlist.fm/ Website. They are sticklers for detail and accuracy. There has not been a Jethro Tull concert since July 31, 2011. All concerts since that date have been billed as Ian Anderson concerts, but as I mentioned, the confusion stems from the fact the Ian often uses "Jethro Tull" as part of his tour name. Also there is a Facebook group I belong to ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/tullgroup/) and have come across some of the most knowledgeable Tull fans anywhere. Some even personally know Ian and/or Martin and they too will tell you that both Ian and Martin are now solo artists, each with their own band. It was a comment there, expressing bewilderment about the reformation section here that led me to the edit I made. So yes, Ian still has a band; it is just not called Jethro Tull.-- Hooter13 ( talk) 22:19, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
To answer your questions:
1. Never say never but Ian Anderson stated the following in 2017: "But I think I prefer, in my twilight years, to use my own name for the most part, being composer of virtually all Tull songs and music since 1968.” Both 2012’s Thick as a Brick II and 2014’s Homo Erraticus appeared under his name. https://www.northernexpress.com/news/feature/jethro-tull-frontman-steps-out-on-his-own/
2. No they have not. Since July 31, 2011, all setlists are listed under Ian Anderson's name. https://www.setlist.fm/setlists/ian-anderson-1bd69578.html
3. Yes. Using "Jethro Tull" as part of the tour name has caused confusion among fans. There are even fans out there who think that Ian Anderson is actually Jethro Tull. It sells tickets though, so I understand why he does it and after all Ian is playing the music of Jethro Tull.
4. No they are not. They are Ian Anderson's band, not Jethro Tull.
5. Yes. Ian Anderson's Band.
6. Yes, I think he has ruled this out with the statement: “When I think of Jethro Tull, I think of the repertoire. There were 33 different musicians. When I think of Beethoven, I don’t mean Beethoven the man. We love the music. The same thing applies to Beethoven [as to Jethro Tull] — we think of the repertoire.”
7. Yes. Not sure what you mean by original Tull members, but it is highly unlikely.
8. No. Anderson has made it very clear that without Martin Barre, there is no Jethro Tull.
On a side note, it is also interesting to see that Martin Barre now tours with his own band, like Ian. Martin bills his shows as "Jethro Tull's Martin Barre Band. Like Ian, he is capitalizing on the Tull name. -- Hooter13 ( talk) 03:12, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
You asked me to come up with a more recent source than some that I have used. You cannot get much more recent than Aug. 12, 2017. In this article, it clearly states: "The longtime frontman and songwriter for Jethro Tull continues to play that group’s best-loved songs but now goes by his name rather than that of the group." It goes on: "He formally ended Jethro Tull a few years ago, figuring it was probably time that it was his name on the marquee." Some people seem to understand this. I do. Die hard Tull fans do as I discovered on Facebook. The people over at The Setlist Wiki do. Yes, there still is a band. Yes, the band continues to play the music of Jethro Tull. Whether it is "his current lineup" or "the current lineup" is just a matter of semantics. The shows are billed as Ian Anderson shows with tour names like "Jethro Tull by Ian Anderson" or Ian Anderson plays "The Best of Jethro Tull".
All that being said, I take it your mind is made up. If you wish to provide erroneous information, please feel free to do so. I will attempt no more edits.-- Hooter13 ( talk) 00:27, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
@ FlightTime: Did you even bother to read this article? It is far more current than the article provided by Escape Orbit.-- Hooter13 ( talk) 03:27, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
So how about we take a look at this interview from May 10, 2018. "These days, Anderson still performs Jethro Tull's music, albeit now as a solo artist." Then this: "You are carrying the torch of the group's legacy now as a solo artist through the shows as well as the records. It seems like a testament that the music still touches people after five decades." There is also discussion on the release of a new solo album and of course Ian has released two solo albums since Jethro Tull disbanded in 2011: "Thick as a Brick 2" and Home Erraticus". https://www.popmatters.com/jethro-tull-2018-interview-2566517482.html Hooter13 ( talk) 02:52, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Regardless of the discussion that has been going on on this talk page as to whether the group has truly reformed or not, I wanted to bring up an edit I made a few weeks back that was removed. I edited the last sentence of the lead (describing the Sep. 2017 reunion) to mention that the newly reunited band does not feature Barre or Perry. I think it would be very important to mention at the very least Barre in this sentence, as the sentence as it is written now can give the impression that some original incarnation of the band has reformed, when the fact as we all know is that the "band" as it is now is still essentially an Anderson solo band and that the second most important member in the band's history is still not present. I think this distinction is worth mentioning and doesn't harm the lead at all. Basil the Bat Lord ( talk) 04:45, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
I agree, without Barre it is indeed an Ian Anderson solo band, so any statement that the band has "reunited" should be qualified as you suggest. Assambrew ( talk) 21:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
This page is the only place I saw saying Tull is reformed. Hey, seriously, fix that. It's laughable. I am a long time Tull fan, a Tullhead, if you wish, I read about it daily and participate in several Tull communities. I would have know if something even close to a return of the band was about to happen. IT'S NOT! Ian Anderson tours under his own name and will continue to do so even in the 50th anniversary tour. Martin Barre will have a anniversary tour also, will we start to call his band Jethro Tull as well?
The facts are as follows: JT is over, Ian tours under his own name. That's OFFICIAL. Any indication otherwise comes from press articles of people who do not know the band's history and got understandably confused that the 50th anniversary tour done by the guy that plays the flute is not JT. Many people think is name is Jethro. The decision that has to be made here is, are we going to make this article reflect confused press articles or dubious statements, or are we going to stick to the FACT that JT is on a break since 2011?
And why 2017? I mean, from 2012 to 2017 there have been many best of JT concerts and tours. By that way of thinking, it was never over!
This article has become a JOKE. It has to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferraz.lucas ( talk • contribs) 10:21, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
An interview from May 10, 2018. "These days, Anderson still performs Jethro Tull's music, albeit now as a solo artist." Then this: "You are carrying the torch of the group's legacy now as a solo artist through the shows as well as the records. It seems like a testament that the music still touches people after five decades." https://www.popmatters.com/jethro-tull-2018-interview-2566517482.html Hooter13 ( talk) 02:40, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
ALL the current members have already been part of the band still labelled Jethro Tull. Barre and Opahle alternated on the guitar in the last phase of the band when it was only touring and not releasing new material; when Barre left, two new studio albums labelled as Ian Anderson were released. I ALWAYS found it moot to differentiate between Tull and Anderson solo since he is the driving force and composes nearly all of the material. The band continuity concerning the personnel was way more in question in 1980. -- 79.223.53.6 ( talk) 22:14, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not done ( non-admin closure) samee talk 07:42, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Jethro Tull (band) →
Jethro Tull – Only two uses on the dab page and there is already a hatnote on this one. Compare search results for terms like "Jethro Tull + Aqualung" or "Jehtro Tull + rock" versus "Jethro Tull + seed drill" or "Jethro Tull + agriculture" and it's pretty clear which one is the
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"Because he was living in a cold bedsit, Anderson bought a large overcoat to keep him warm, and, along with the flute, it became part of his early stage image." I definitely remember reading or hearing an interview where Anderson stated that the famous coat was a parting gift from his father when Anderson announced he was leaving home and going to London to play music - a move his father was apparently quite skeptical about. In the same interview, he also mentioned that the coat was eventually stolen from a dressing room during an American tour. I'd change this sentence if I could only remember the source. :( Jah77 ( talk) 09:59, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
I find it sad that the Tull keyboard player with the longest tenure with the band does not have his own Wiki page, but simply redirects to the Tull page. I was a big fan of his period with the band. Pekoebrew ( talk) 19:37, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
I have reverted the edit of Basil the Bat Lord, re-adding Andrew Giddings and Jonathan Noyce to the list of "significant members" in the article lead. When I added them originally, it was reverted by Basil who stated that significant members' "contributions to the band or length of service were notable enough to its legacy to warrant mention". I replaced my edit, noting that "Noyce and Giddings are significant members exactly because of their notable lengths of service. Noyce was the 2nd-longest serving bassist, and Giddings the longest serving keyboardist."
Giddings and Noyce should be considered significant members. Basil's stated reason for denying them is demonstrably false: their lengths of service are indeed notable enough to warrant mention. Thank you! (comments from others welcome). Assambrew ( talk) 20:52, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Gonna explain some of my thoughts here:
The lead is I think already kind of long and cluttered and so I think we should be avoiding adding even more onto lists like these. I also just think it’s a slippery slope to be mentioning members who were so far removed from the band’s successful period just because they were “the 2nd longest” of something.
The other members listed in the section I think deserve to be there because they had a significant impact on the band’s sound. I think it’s a huge stretch to say that Giddings or Noyce did during their time with the band. Basil the Bat Lord ( talk) 08:17, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
No explanation, either! With these heavy-handed, insulting, rude tactics why would fools like me waste my time contributing to your project?!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicollector ( talk • contribs)
"@ Masem:" Thank you, Masem. Now that you mentioned it, it makes sense.:-) Musicollector ( talk) 16:04, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
I would simply like to request that someone (other than I) add a 'books' or 'literature' section focused specifically on auto-biographies and biographies (excluding at this point items such as interview transcripts, third-party reviews, etc.). Thank you. 68.36.32.76 ( talk) 15:31, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
The article claims that she played violin and sang with the band, but her linked webpage makes no mention of any musical endeavours, and the original reference no longer mentions her. Is this the correct person ? RGCorris ( talk) 11:42, 2 August 2021 (UTC)