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dispute over: 1) the relevance of "Jewish American" in the "nationality" field in the infobox; 2) whether "Jewish American" is the proper description used in the opening sentence of the introductory paragraph. The link leads to an article about notable Jewish persons whose citizenship is American. As he is one of the most prominent American Jews in contemporary culture, it most definitely deserves to be mentioned here IMO.
*I don't have anything to add beyond the conversation below.
Beeblebrox (
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I dispute that we need a first-sentence identifier of Seinfeld as a "Jewish American." I understand completely that his comedy springs from the Jewish tradition in America and that it's relevant that he is Jewish. But I dispute that the fact that he was raised Jewish is necessary as a first-sentence qualifier to "American." Other Wikipedia articles on people who happen to be Jewish don't contain such qualifiers, generally, and the first sentence is the place only for the most general of information. Seinfeld does not refer to being Jewish all that often in his comedy (though of course it's hardly a secret), and I really fail to see why his religion is relevant enough to put in the first sentence. The first paragraph, sure, but not the introductory sentence. Moncrief 00:28, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Drone2Gather ( talk) 00:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)The word citizenship is often used in a different sense from nationality... nationality can refer to membership in a nations (collective of people sharing a national identity, usually based on ethnic and cultural ties and self-determination).
I can live with that. Jewish American it is. Drone2Gather ( talk) 05:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
(out)While he is, indeed, Jewish, the use of "Jewish American" does not reflect "nationality" as it also refers to religion. While some other articles use the term, it is unclear that it is the best way to handle this. WP does not, in general, otherwise use religion as the qualifier on nationality. Why not just say he is an American who is Jewish? The fact is not contested AFAICT, just the wording. (seeking compromise here) Collect ( talk) 10:31, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Here's a message to all contributors: if you can, please refrain from editing the controversial section(s) of the article, until a compromise or consensus has been reached. Ultimately, it does not matter what the article actually says for what? 48 hours? 72 hours? This is the perfect place to work out your differences: here on the article talk page. May I suggest you use the following format. - Jarry1250 ( t, c) 12:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Anyone edits this paragraph:
... is an American comedian (etc.), who is Jewish, whose style is often described as ... is my suggestion for clear compromise wording. Collect ( talk) 13:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) Folks, can we please "close" this thread and stop the off article forum discussion?!? Talk pages are NOT meant for this type of discussion. Please, unless there is more to add about improving this article, lets end this. If folks have a "beef", please take it to an admin board or ask an uninvolved party to give there opinion. Anyways, just a general point of order. Thank you, -- Tom (talk) 18:24, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
i hope an uninvolved admin will warn this user about standards for conduct when discussing matters related to israel and palestine according to arbcom. sad that even the jerry seinfeld article of all things should have to suffer from this tripe. untwirl( talk) 18:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
According to this Wikipedia article Jerry's grandfather, Simon Seinfeld, migrated to Ellis Island from Aleppo, Syria. However, the New York Times also stated that Jerry's grandfather migrated from Stanislau, Ukraine. Which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.70.114.144 ( talk) 03:42, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
His grandfather was a Turkish carpenter known as "Selim Hüsnü" who migrated from Aleppo, Ottoman Empire to the USA in 1909 and took the name "Simon Seinfeld".
(out)Minor point: Sephardim were from Iberia, thence to North Africa. As a result, many of their traditions differ from the Ashkenazim, but they are both equally "Jewish." As a practical matter, one group speaks Yiddish, the other, Ladino. Collect ( talk) 11:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thinks the grammar in this article is in desperate need of improvement? I'll do what I can, but I don't really have the time to proofread the entire thing. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Drone2Gather ( talk) 12:10, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
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Anyone got a reference for this appearance - I know Larry David was on the show but I don't think Jerry Seinfeld ever was? Nedtrifle ( talk) 10:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
OK, I'm going to delete that ref - until someone shows me a video. Nedtrifle ( talk) 20:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Is this really needed in the article the information about the lawsuit. Reading it, it seems to be saying the same thing as the Seinfeld for the woman having the lawsuit in order for publicity for her book. Is it important enough? Phil Nolte ( talk) 11:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I have read various online sources that claim that Jerry Seinfeld is a vegetarian. The Animal Liberation Front website claims that Seinfeld is "an outspoken vegetarian who won't let people eat meat in front of him." I do not know if the ALF meets the criteria for a reliable source, which can be cited in scholarly papers.
Another source, The Rocky Mountain Collegiate, posts that Jerry Seinfeld is a vegetarian.
I would expect that Seinfeld could very well refrain from meat. How do we confirm if he does or does not eat meat? If Seinfeld does forgo meat in his diet, I think this is a notable fact to add to his Wiki page.
-- Buekerc1 ( talk) 19:42, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I have found other sources indicating that Jerry Seinfeld does not eat meat. One source, Vegetarian Times (VT) [3] lists Jerry Seinfeld as a vegetarian. Another text, a book titled God Wants You Healthy! [4] by Dennis Urbans also lists Seinfeld as a person who does not eat meat. A third source, HealthNews.com [5] references Seinfeld as a meatless eater. Yet, in 1988, the aforementioned Vegetarian Times lists Jerry Seinfeld as a person rumored to be vegetarian, but is not [6]. The same source with two incongruent indications.
The VT citing Jerry Seinfeld as a rumored to be- but not actually- a vegetarian is dated in 1988. The issue referencing him as a (or a one time) vegetarian was published in 1999. -- Christopher Bueker ( talk) 02:13, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
I doubt he's a vegetarian, since there was a whole episode about vegetarians being wierdos. His girlfriend thought he was a vegetarian because he ordered salad when they went out. The next time he saw her, he faked enthusiasm for mutton.( Huey45 ( talk) 11:45, 20 March 2010 (UTC))
This was discussed once before and is now in the archives. Does anyone else find the first part of the section on his early life pointless and annoying, since it is not actually about his early life but rather a description of his ancestry? It's not about Jerry Seinfeld's life at all until the second paragraph. I don't think this is information our readers are generally looking for, an encyclopedia article is meant to detail the major points of a person's life, not their entire family tree, unless it is relevant to why they are notable, which is clearly not the case here. Beeblebrox ( talk) 17:35, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
The article has 40 references and a pile of external links. It might be helpful if the persons supporting the tagging could identify which areas they feel are in need of further verification by sources, either by listing them here, or by replacing the one big tag with targeted {{fact}} tags. Beeblebrox ( talk) 17:30, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Appropriate? The sources that I've seen about Seinfeld's association with Scientology are that he simply took a few classes. I don't know that it's appropriate to say that he was actually a Scientologist at any point, therefore he could not be a former Scientologist. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 09:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Not all Syrian Jews are Mizrahi; some are Sephardi, and some are both. How does Wikipedia know that Seinfeld is Mizrahi? 184.59.7.32 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC).
Is there a concern that the subject does not self-identify as Jewish? [7] If so that's easily remedied with multiple sources. Will Beback talk 23:08, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
There was an article in the New York Post that a contestant on the "Marriage Ref" show blamed Seinfeld for ruining his marriage. I believe the New York Post is a legitimate source. Here is the link: 'Marriage Ref' Contestant Blames Seinfeld for Divorce. I believe this can go into the Personal life section. Any objections? Cmguy777 ( talk) 03:54, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
I remember being called and being asked if I wanted to buy soap and the voice sounded like Jerry Seinfeld. Can someone confirm or deny that Jerry did call people and asked them to buy soap as part of a social test? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.100.106.9 ( talk) 17:33, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
It has been said that Jerry's ancestry is a combination of Polish, Ukrainian, and Syrian. Is this correct? 184.147.232.157 ( talk) 03:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
this israeli bedouin looks similar to jerry seinfeld
-- 87.68.243.47 ( talk) 02:59, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
bielski
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This was deleted witht he edit summary "rm Self-reference and balancing WP:CK, see WP:RS WP:PSTS". [8] the entry at List of Scientologists was also deleted. I'm not sure how Wikipedia:Common knowledge fits into this, or really why this was deleted. Will Beback talk 23:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
"I last really studied, oh, it's almost 30 years ago. But what I did do, I really liked, in terms of it's very...it was interesting. Believe it or not...it's extremely intellectual and clinical in its approach to problem-solving, which really appealed to me. I actually got to it from my auto mechanics teacher in high school, who was into it, and he was telling me about it. In my early years of stand-up, it was very helpful. I took a couple of courses. One of them was in communication, and I learned some things about communication that really got my act going."
"It was just things about understanding the communications cycle... Even the volume at which I'm speaking now is the right volume for where you're sitting. I'm almost performing, in a way."
...
"They have a lot of very good technology. That's what really appealed to me about it. It's not faith-based. It's all technology. And I'm obsessed with technology."
Based on this discussion I am restoring it to the list of scientologists, the arguments for inclusion are consistent with wikipedia's sourcing guidelines as well as WP:V and the text is supported by the sources as shown in this discussion. Additionally self identification is now necessary for claims of religious membership. Coffeepusher ( talk) 20:59, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Seinfeld has admitted dabbling in Scientology when he was in his twenties. [1], though he has denied being a member of the church. [2]The association was reviled to the public eye in 1992 by Roseanne Barr star of the sitcom Roseanne. [3]
Feel free to improve. AgadaUrbanit ( talk) 19:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Re "The association was reviled to the public eye in 1992.", are you sure that's the word you meant to use? I know some people do revile Scientology (not in a neutral encyclopaedia though, surely!) but it sounds like an odd comment to include in the article. 87.254.66.133 ( talk) 22:21, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Most intelligent people, like Jerry, try various self-improvement techniques. There is a wide spectrum that ranges from being opposed to something to being interested in trying something to trying it to being involved with it to becoming a spokesperson or a leader in it. Trying to pin down where a celebrity is on this spectrum is impossible from WP RSs such as newspaper articles, which reflect mostly the opinion of the individual journalist. The only good source for such a determination is the celebrity himself or herself. And even then their position on the spectrum may very well change over time. This may all seem obvious, but nevertheless we can get carried away with the technicalities of researching RSs, NOTE, etc., all of which may not be very relevant. You can call Jerry a Scientologist because he gave it a try for awhile. You can call him an ex-Scientologist because he let that go. I doubt he thinks of himself as either one. In addition, he is currently interested in practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique, according to that organization. Greta Garbo, Bob Dylan, and thousands of others tried Transcendental Meditation but didn't stick with it. So what? It's all relative, friends. It's not encyclopedic. Fixed, precise answers that will please everyone don't always exist. WP should understand this reality and add a policy that avoids such rigid pigeon-holing as membership in a general 'list of practitioners'. Otherwise, much time and energy is wasted in trying to determine something that simply cannot be determined. David Spector (talk) 19:35, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
“Dennis Miller has called him "probably the greatest joke writer ever. ... I find interviews with Jerry to be about as illuminating as anybody in the culture. ... He's probably the funniest comedian of our generation."”
That may be the view of Dennis Miller (whoever that is), but my view is that Seinfeld has absolutely no sense of humor and that the show is one of the most inane human endeavors I have ever had the misfortune to encounter. --- Dagme ( talk) 20:17, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
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If Kalman Seinfeld's father was born in Ivano-Frankivsk raion according to links, maybe it is more accurate to rephrase sentence from "hungarian jews" to "ukrainian jews" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.9.76.183 ( talk) 19:17, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Under the car collection section of the article would it considered trivial or relevant to add info about lawsuit filed against Jerry Seinfeld after he sold a fake 1958 Porsche 356 A 1500 GS/GT Carrera Speedster at auction in Amelia Island, Florida to a company whose mechanics later confirmed that the car was fake. In response Seinfeld promised to refund the $1.5 million purchase price plus compensation but after weeks of no response from Seinfeld or his lawyers the buyers filed a lawsuit in the Superior Court of the Southern District of New York. I do have references to the news articles and I'm current looking on the court's website for a copy of the lawsuit paperwork. YborCityJohn ( talk) 16:36, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Does anyone know if Jerry ever did an uncredited cameo on "Law & Order"? The specific episode was from 1990 titled "The Reapers Helper". The scene in question involved one of the detectives interviewing a witness/suspect. Detective on screen right, witness/suspect on screen left. In the background, but very noticable, is a person that could be Jerry's twin, leaning against a filing cabinet and watching the discussion like someone watching a tennis match. I about fell out of my chair when I saw it and need some confirmation please! FiggazWithAttitude ( talk) 16:47, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
On source note 83 it says " "Jerry Seinfeld on Importance of Meditation for PTSD". ABC News. December 13, 2012. Archived from the original on September 7, 2013. Retrieved March 7, 2007. " — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.36.73.100 ( talk) 16:45, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
According to the cited source, the two of them met and were seen eating together when she was 17 and still in high school (and he was 38). He denies that they were officially dating then, but that seems like and important detail to include in the article Monkski23 ( talk) 17:51, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
I find it very odd that this article makes no mention of what Jerry’s parents did for a living. Was his father a raincoat salesman like he was on the Seinfeld show? I assume that his mom never had a job, because most mothers in the 1950s were homemakers. Seinfeld429 ( talk) 10:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
I just found out that Jerry’s (real-life) father was actually a sign painter. I remember that fact being in this article a few years ago. I wonder why it was deleted. Seinfeld429 ( talk) 10:44, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
In this young age he vould not be a voluntier. He was part of educating program. In this time they worked easy kobs snd study about israel with few trips. 2A02:3038:407:8F2B:81FB:FEA2:98D6:1866 ( talk) 12:20, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Wait a minute—how can a special be intercut with itself? Is it possible this writer meant simply, "It is intercut with documentary clips", implying that the rest is footage of Seinfeld's performance that evening? Or are these "documentary clips" actually footage of the events surrounding that performance (rather than clips of, say, past performances, Seinfeld's childhood, etc.—which is what "documentary" would actually mean in this context, IMHO)? I have many other questions, most of which don't relate to this article or subject, but I'll hang up now and take my answer off the air. – AndyFielding ( talk) 16:47, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
How is He is best known for having played a semi-fictionalized version of himself
ridiculous wording? I even added two sources that state this.
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dispute over: 1) the relevance of "Jewish American" in the "nationality" field in the infobox; 2) whether "Jewish American" is the proper description used in the opening sentence of the introductory paragraph. The link leads to an article about notable Jewish persons whose citizenship is American. As he is one of the most prominent American Jews in contemporary culture, it most definitely deserves to be mentioned here IMO.
*I don't have anything to add beyond the conversation below.
Beeblebrox (
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05:08, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
I dispute that we need a first-sentence identifier of Seinfeld as a "Jewish American." I understand completely that his comedy springs from the Jewish tradition in America and that it's relevant that he is Jewish. But I dispute that the fact that he was raised Jewish is necessary as a first-sentence qualifier to "American." Other Wikipedia articles on people who happen to be Jewish don't contain such qualifiers, generally, and the first sentence is the place only for the most general of information. Seinfeld does not refer to being Jewish all that often in his comedy (though of course it's hardly a secret), and I really fail to see why his religion is relevant enough to put in the first sentence. The first paragraph, sure, but not the introductory sentence. Moncrief 00:28, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Drone2Gather ( talk) 00:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)The word citizenship is often used in a different sense from nationality... nationality can refer to membership in a nations (collective of people sharing a national identity, usually based on ethnic and cultural ties and self-determination).
I can live with that. Jewish American it is. Drone2Gather ( talk) 05:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
(out)While he is, indeed, Jewish, the use of "Jewish American" does not reflect "nationality" as it also refers to religion. While some other articles use the term, it is unclear that it is the best way to handle this. WP does not, in general, otherwise use religion as the qualifier on nationality. Why not just say he is an American who is Jewish? The fact is not contested AFAICT, just the wording. (seeking compromise here) Collect ( talk) 10:31, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Here's a message to all contributors: if you can, please refrain from editing the controversial section(s) of the article, until a compromise or consensus has been reached. Ultimately, it does not matter what the article actually says for what? 48 hours? 72 hours? This is the perfect place to work out your differences: here on the article talk page. May I suggest you use the following format. - Jarry1250 ( t, c) 12:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Anyone edits this paragraph:
... is an American comedian (etc.), who is Jewish, whose style is often described as ... is my suggestion for clear compromise wording. Collect ( talk) 13:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) Folks, can we please "close" this thread and stop the off article forum discussion?!? Talk pages are NOT meant for this type of discussion. Please, unless there is more to add about improving this article, lets end this. If folks have a "beef", please take it to an admin board or ask an uninvolved party to give there opinion. Anyways, just a general point of order. Thank you, -- Tom (talk) 18:24, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
i hope an uninvolved admin will warn this user about standards for conduct when discussing matters related to israel and palestine according to arbcom. sad that even the jerry seinfeld article of all things should have to suffer from this tripe. untwirl( talk) 18:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
According to this Wikipedia article Jerry's grandfather, Simon Seinfeld, migrated to Ellis Island from Aleppo, Syria. However, the New York Times also stated that Jerry's grandfather migrated from Stanislau, Ukraine. Which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.70.114.144 ( talk) 03:42, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
His grandfather was a Turkish carpenter known as "Selim Hüsnü" who migrated from Aleppo, Ottoman Empire to the USA in 1909 and took the name "Simon Seinfeld".
(out)Minor point: Sephardim were from Iberia, thence to North Africa. As a result, many of their traditions differ from the Ashkenazim, but they are both equally "Jewish." As a practical matter, one group speaks Yiddish, the other, Ladino. Collect ( talk) 11:21, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Am I the only one who thinks the grammar in this article is in desperate need of improvement? I'll do what I can, but I don't really have the time to proofread the entire thing. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Drone2Gather ( talk) 12:10, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
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Anyone got a reference for this appearance - I know Larry David was on the show but I don't think Jerry Seinfeld ever was? Nedtrifle ( talk) 10:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
OK, I'm going to delete that ref - until someone shows me a video. Nedtrifle ( talk) 20:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Is this really needed in the article the information about the lawsuit. Reading it, it seems to be saying the same thing as the Seinfeld for the woman having the lawsuit in order for publicity for her book. Is it important enough? Phil Nolte ( talk) 11:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I have read various online sources that claim that Jerry Seinfeld is a vegetarian. The Animal Liberation Front website claims that Seinfeld is "an outspoken vegetarian who won't let people eat meat in front of him." I do not know if the ALF meets the criteria for a reliable source, which can be cited in scholarly papers.
Another source, The Rocky Mountain Collegiate, posts that Jerry Seinfeld is a vegetarian.
I would expect that Seinfeld could very well refrain from meat. How do we confirm if he does or does not eat meat? If Seinfeld does forgo meat in his diet, I think this is a notable fact to add to his Wiki page.
-- Buekerc1 ( talk) 19:42, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I have found other sources indicating that Jerry Seinfeld does not eat meat. One source, Vegetarian Times (VT) [3] lists Jerry Seinfeld as a vegetarian. Another text, a book titled God Wants You Healthy! [4] by Dennis Urbans also lists Seinfeld as a person who does not eat meat. A third source, HealthNews.com [5] references Seinfeld as a meatless eater. Yet, in 1988, the aforementioned Vegetarian Times lists Jerry Seinfeld as a person rumored to be vegetarian, but is not [6]. The same source with two incongruent indications.
The VT citing Jerry Seinfeld as a rumored to be- but not actually- a vegetarian is dated in 1988. The issue referencing him as a (or a one time) vegetarian was published in 1999. -- Christopher Bueker ( talk) 02:13, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
I doubt he's a vegetarian, since there was a whole episode about vegetarians being wierdos. His girlfriend thought he was a vegetarian because he ordered salad when they went out. The next time he saw her, he faked enthusiasm for mutton.( Huey45 ( talk) 11:45, 20 March 2010 (UTC))
This was discussed once before and is now in the archives. Does anyone else find the first part of the section on his early life pointless and annoying, since it is not actually about his early life but rather a description of his ancestry? It's not about Jerry Seinfeld's life at all until the second paragraph. I don't think this is information our readers are generally looking for, an encyclopedia article is meant to detail the major points of a person's life, not their entire family tree, unless it is relevant to why they are notable, which is clearly not the case here. Beeblebrox ( talk) 17:35, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
The article has 40 references and a pile of external links. It might be helpful if the persons supporting the tagging could identify which areas they feel are in need of further verification by sources, either by listing them here, or by replacing the one big tag with targeted {{fact}} tags. Beeblebrox ( talk) 17:30, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Appropriate? The sources that I've seen about Seinfeld's association with Scientology are that he simply took a few classes. I don't know that it's appropriate to say that he was actually a Scientologist at any point, therefore he could not be a former Scientologist. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 09:06, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Not all Syrian Jews are Mizrahi; some are Sephardi, and some are both. How does Wikipedia know that Seinfeld is Mizrahi? 184.59.7.32 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:16, 30 December 2010 (UTC).
Is there a concern that the subject does not self-identify as Jewish? [7] If so that's easily remedied with multiple sources. Will Beback talk 23:08, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
There was an article in the New York Post that a contestant on the "Marriage Ref" show blamed Seinfeld for ruining his marriage. I believe the New York Post is a legitimate source. Here is the link: 'Marriage Ref' Contestant Blames Seinfeld for Divorce. I believe this can go into the Personal life section. Any objections? Cmguy777 ( talk) 03:54, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
I remember being called and being asked if I wanted to buy soap and the voice sounded like Jerry Seinfeld. Can someone confirm or deny that Jerry did call people and asked them to buy soap as part of a social test? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.100.106.9 ( talk) 17:33, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
It has been said that Jerry's ancestry is a combination of Polish, Ukrainian, and Syrian. Is this correct? 184.147.232.157 ( talk) 03:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
this israeli bedouin looks similar to jerry seinfeld
-- 87.68.243.47 ( talk) 02:59, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
bielski
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).
This was deleted witht he edit summary "rm Self-reference and balancing WP:CK, see WP:RS WP:PSTS". [8] the entry at List of Scientologists was also deleted. I'm not sure how Wikipedia:Common knowledge fits into this, or really why this was deleted. Will Beback talk 23:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
"I last really studied, oh, it's almost 30 years ago. But what I did do, I really liked, in terms of it's very...it was interesting. Believe it or not...it's extremely intellectual and clinical in its approach to problem-solving, which really appealed to me. I actually got to it from my auto mechanics teacher in high school, who was into it, and he was telling me about it. In my early years of stand-up, it was very helpful. I took a couple of courses. One of them was in communication, and I learned some things about communication that really got my act going."
"It was just things about understanding the communications cycle... Even the volume at which I'm speaking now is the right volume for where you're sitting. I'm almost performing, in a way."
...
"They have a lot of very good technology. That's what really appealed to me about it. It's not faith-based. It's all technology. And I'm obsessed with technology."
Based on this discussion I am restoring it to the list of scientologists, the arguments for inclusion are consistent with wikipedia's sourcing guidelines as well as WP:V and the text is supported by the sources as shown in this discussion. Additionally self identification is now necessary for claims of religious membership. Coffeepusher ( talk) 20:59, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Seinfeld has admitted dabbling in Scientology when he was in his twenties. [1], though he has denied being a member of the church. [2]The association was reviled to the public eye in 1992 by Roseanne Barr star of the sitcom Roseanne. [3]
Feel free to improve. AgadaUrbanit ( talk) 19:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Re "The association was reviled to the public eye in 1992.", are you sure that's the word you meant to use? I know some people do revile Scientology (not in a neutral encyclopaedia though, surely!) but it sounds like an odd comment to include in the article. 87.254.66.133 ( talk) 22:21, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Most intelligent people, like Jerry, try various self-improvement techniques. There is a wide spectrum that ranges from being opposed to something to being interested in trying something to trying it to being involved with it to becoming a spokesperson or a leader in it. Trying to pin down where a celebrity is on this spectrum is impossible from WP RSs such as newspaper articles, which reflect mostly the opinion of the individual journalist. The only good source for such a determination is the celebrity himself or herself. And even then their position on the spectrum may very well change over time. This may all seem obvious, but nevertheless we can get carried away with the technicalities of researching RSs, NOTE, etc., all of which may not be very relevant. You can call Jerry a Scientologist because he gave it a try for awhile. You can call him an ex-Scientologist because he let that go. I doubt he thinks of himself as either one. In addition, he is currently interested in practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique, according to that organization. Greta Garbo, Bob Dylan, and thousands of others tried Transcendental Meditation but didn't stick with it. So what? It's all relative, friends. It's not encyclopedic. Fixed, precise answers that will please everyone don't always exist. WP should understand this reality and add a policy that avoids such rigid pigeon-holing as membership in a general 'list of practitioners'. Otherwise, much time and energy is wasted in trying to determine something that simply cannot be determined. David Spector (talk) 19:35, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
“Dennis Miller has called him "probably the greatest joke writer ever. ... I find interviews with Jerry to be about as illuminating as anybody in the culture. ... He's probably the funniest comedian of our generation."”
That may be the view of Dennis Miller (whoever that is), but my view is that Seinfeld has absolutely no sense of humor and that the show is one of the most inane human endeavors I have ever had the misfortune to encounter. --- Dagme ( talk) 20:17, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
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If Kalman Seinfeld's father was born in Ivano-Frankivsk raion according to links, maybe it is more accurate to rephrase sentence from "hungarian jews" to "ukrainian jews" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.9.76.183 ( talk) 19:17, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Under the car collection section of the article would it considered trivial or relevant to add info about lawsuit filed against Jerry Seinfeld after he sold a fake 1958 Porsche 356 A 1500 GS/GT Carrera Speedster at auction in Amelia Island, Florida to a company whose mechanics later confirmed that the car was fake. In response Seinfeld promised to refund the $1.5 million purchase price plus compensation but after weeks of no response from Seinfeld or his lawyers the buyers filed a lawsuit in the Superior Court of the Southern District of New York. I do have references to the news articles and I'm current looking on the court's website for a copy of the lawsuit paperwork. YborCityJohn ( talk) 16:36, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Does anyone know if Jerry ever did an uncredited cameo on "Law & Order"? The specific episode was from 1990 titled "The Reapers Helper". The scene in question involved one of the detectives interviewing a witness/suspect. Detective on screen right, witness/suspect on screen left. In the background, but very noticable, is a person that could be Jerry's twin, leaning against a filing cabinet and watching the discussion like someone watching a tennis match. I about fell out of my chair when I saw it and need some confirmation please! FiggazWithAttitude ( talk) 16:47, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
On source note 83 it says " "Jerry Seinfeld on Importance of Meditation for PTSD". ABC News. December 13, 2012. Archived from the original on September 7, 2013. Retrieved March 7, 2007. " — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.36.73.100 ( talk) 16:45, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
According to the cited source, the two of them met and were seen eating together when she was 17 and still in high school (and he was 38). He denies that they were officially dating then, but that seems like and important detail to include in the article Monkski23 ( talk) 17:51, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
I find it very odd that this article makes no mention of what Jerry’s parents did for a living. Was his father a raincoat salesman like he was on the Seinfeld show? I assume that his mom never had a job, because most mothers in the 1950s were homemakers. Seinfeld429 ( talk) 10:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
I just found out that Jerry’s (real-life) father was actually a sign painter. I remember that fact being in this article a few years ago. I wonder why it was deleted. Seinfeld429 ( talk) 10:44, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
In this young age he vould not be a voluntier. He was part of educating program. In this time they worked easy kobs snd study about israel with few trips. 2A02:3038:407:8F2B:81FB:FEA2:98D6:1866 ( talk) 12:20, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Wait a minute—how can a special be intercut with itself? Is it possible this writer meant simply, "It is intercut with documentary clips", implying that the rest is footage of Seinfeld's performance that evening? Or are these "documentary clips" actually footage of the events surrounding that performance (rather than clips of, say, past performances, Seinfeld's childhood, etc.—which is what "documentary" would actually mean in this context, IMHO)? I have many other questions, most of which don't relate to this article or subject, but I'll hang up now and take my answer off the air. – AndyFielding ( talk) 16:47, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
How is He is best known for having played a semi-fictionalized version of himself
ridiculous wording? I even added two sources that state this.
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