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I propose that Jeju Province be merged with Jeju Island under the page name "Jeju Island".
As said in both pages, they are situated on and coterminous with each other. Jeju Island stats can be incorporated into Jeju Province and just be renamed together as the name it is most known for. They both contain the same categories starting with history/previous names - Tamna/Jeju Uprising. The main categories of Jeju Island (Geography, Climate) can be integrated into Jeju Province layout as well as Jeju Island's Places of interest + Transportation into Jeju Province's Tourism category. They repeat each other's information often enough to become one article. I think that the content in the Jeju Island article can easily be explained in the context of Jeju Province, and the Jeju Province article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Jeju Island will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. The articles are ranked C-class and Start- articles respectively, and if we clean-up and merge the substantial articles together, it will be a means to a more informative and incisive article. Dixtrix1 ( talk) 19:22, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
Two conflicting figures for population are given, the one in "Demographics" not dated. Should be rationalized.
182.225.181.132 ( talk) 03:24, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Under the "Modern History" section, there is some irrelevant gabble about the poor oppressed Reds during the Korean War. Is Kim Jong-Il getting bored with his "pleasure squad" and trolling Wikipedia in his copious spare time? Someone send that poor boy some Viagra. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.156.96 ( talk) 18:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
A bacterial genus called Tamlana is given by the descriptors as being based on Tamla, the historic name of Jeju island. See first line of Dexcription of Tamlana gen. nov. section in [1]. If this is incorrect/impossible please amend the article by mentioning they got their spelling wrong or similar. Thanks -- Squidonius ( talk) 09:29, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
So tired of everyone not respecting what Wikipedia is all about. This is not your personal blog to vent about the South Korean government. The tone of the article on the military base does not even come close to neutral. And I see this constantly in korean-related Wiki articles. Meme3234 ( talk) 05:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Just out of interest unusual for a government sponsored name change to be picked up so quickly in western sources. Unfortunately the same can't be said for Jeju language over Jeju dialect. Has the ROK govt decided that Jeju mal is a language? In ictu oculi ( talk) 11:57, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
I switched "untouched" for "uncultivated" because the area was not, in fact, untouched until the 21st Century. The previous century had seen it exploited for charcoal production, especially during the 1970s, and most of the larger trees in many areas were cut. Now, they have grown back from sprouts that emerged around the circumferences of the trunks, and have grown back quite thickly. But they are not in their single-trunk, pristine condition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.100.141.172 ( talk) 10:51, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
I can't find on this page which sea Jeju Island is situated in. Come on, people! That's a rather crucial piece of information. Ieneach fan 'e Esk ( talk) 21:35, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Please add a guidance on how to pronounce the name (and maybe also the historical names). Previously this was always romanised as "Cheju"; now the romanisation has changed, although the pronunciation should not have changed. —DIV ( 137.111.13.4 ( talk) 01:51, 27 November 2014 (UTC))
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Nobody knows that when the Bangsatap was built over the year previous.
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Support merging Jeju Island here as suggested. It is not necessary or helpful to have different entities for these. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 16:44, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
The Jeju Island article should be merged into this one. As it stands, both articles completely overlap, covering exactly the same topics, with the Jeju Island article being both shorter (about half the length) and created later. Everything on Jeju Island fits here, and the majority is redundant. The history section is a slightly less developed version of this one. The Economy (and tourism) and Places of interests sections there are less developed versions of the Economy and Tourism sections here. The transportation section there is a slightly more developed version of the transportation section here. The remaining sections there (Etymology, Logo, Geography, Education, Utilities, Naval Base, and Health) are obvious gaps in this article, some being purely political and clearly not written with any page distinction in mind. Merging prevents this duplicative work across two articles with identical scope. (This merge would not preclude a purely geographical article from being created, similar to Geography of Hokkaido/ Geography of Taiwan.) Further to this, the merged article should be moved to Jeju, similar to Hokkaido, as it would be the clear primary topic holding all relevant information. CMD ( talk) 07:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
Noting the edit reversions of @ AG202: and @ MargaretRDonald: concerning the usage of data.
I do not wish for an edit war. However, I do not believe a wikimedia article should be used as arbiters of word usage: Wikipedia pages report on word usage only, and the page Data correctly reports that in common parlance, the word data is frequently treated as singular, while in scientific articles it is (almost?) universally treated as plural. (And in all the many hundreds of scientific articles I have read, the subject, data, has always taken a plural verb.)
The page, Jeju Province, reports two scientific articles, one on scarlet fever, and one on the prevalence of antibodies for SFTS in blood. Both articles (reference 85 - https://www.jpmph.org/upload/pdf/jpmph-52-3-188.pdf & reference 86 - https://icjournal.org/DOIx.php?id=10.3947/ic.2019.51.4.337) treat data as plural. Wikimedians should honour their sources. Hence, the page Jeju Province should treat data as plural when reporting the findings of these two papers.
Please read the papers and permit me to honour the English of the original authors and permit me change the usage of data to plural on this page. MargaretRDonald ( talk) 21:31, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
For a quick research project I was looking through the sources trying to find more resources for Bangsatap, however I found Citation 37 to lead to two messages in Korean and Japanese. A quick Google translate gives the message: A translation request was made via a server to which access is not permitted.
With this source not being available, the entire paragraph about Bangastap has no citations whatsoever.
While this is a relatively small part of the article, there is only two cited examples of culture/society in the section for Society and Culture. Aperture LENS ( talk) 17:27, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
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I propose that Jeju Province be merged with Jeju Island under the page name "Jeju Island".
As said in both pages, they are situated on and coterminous with each other. Jeju Island stats can be incorporated into Jeju Province and just be renamed together as the name it is most known for. They both contain the same categories starting with history/previous names - Tamna/Jeju Uprising. The main categories of Jeju Island (Geography, Climate) can be integrated into Jeju Province layout as well as Jeju Island's Places of interest + Transportation into Jeju Province's Tourism category. They repeat each other's information often enough to become one article. I think that the content in the Jeju Island article can easily be explained in the context of Jeju Province, and the Jeju Province article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Jeju Island will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. The articles are ranked C-class and Start- articles respectively, and if we clean-up and merge the substantial articles together, it will be a means to a more informative and incisive article. Dixtrix1 ( talk) 19:22, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
Two conflicting figures for population are given, the one in "Demographics" not dated. Should be rationalized.
182.225.181.132 ( talk) 03:24, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Under the "Modern History" section, there is some irrelevant gabble about the poor oppressed Reds during the Korean War. Is Kim Jong-Il getting bored with his "pleasure squad" and trolling Wikipedia in his copious spare time? Someone send that poor boy some Viagra. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.156.96 ( talk) 18:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
A bacterial genus called Tamlana is given by the descriptors as being based on Tamla, the historic name of Jeju island. See first line of Dexcription of Tamlana gen. nov. section in [1]. If this is incorrect/impossible please amend the article by mentioning they got their spelling wrong or similar. Thanks -- Squidonius ( talk) 09:29, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
So tired of everyone not respecting what Wikipedia is all about. This is not your personal blog to vent about the South Korean government. The tone of the article on the military base does not even come close to neutral. And I see this constantly in korean-related Wiki articles. Meme3234 ( talk) 05:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Just out of interest unusual for a government sponsored name change to be picked up so quickly in western sources. Unfortunately the same can't be said for Jeju language over Jeju dialect. Has the ROK govt decided that Jeju mal is a language? In ictu oculi ( talk) 11:57, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
I switched "untouched" for "uncultivated" because the area was not, in fact, untouched until the 21st Century. The previous century had seen it exploited for charcoal production, especially during the 1970s, and most of the larger trees in many areas were cut. Now, they have grown back from sprouts that emerged around the circumferences of the trunks, and have grown back quite thickly. But they are not in their single-trunk, pristine condition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.100.141.172 ( talk) 10:51, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
I can't find on this page which sea Jeju Island is situated in. Come on, people! That's a rather crucial piece of information. Ieneach fan 'e Esk ( talk) 21:35, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Please add a guidance on how to pronounce the name (and maybe also the historical names). Previously this was always romanised as "Cheju"; now the romanisation has changed, although the pronunciation should not have changed. —DIV ( 137.111.13.4 ( talk) 01:51, 27 November 2014 (UTC))
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Nobody knows that when the Bangsatap was built over the year previous.
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Support merging Jeju Island here as suggested. It is not necessary or helpful to have different entities for these. – Finnusertop ( talk ⋅ contribs) 16:44, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
The Jeju Island article should be merged into this one. As it stands, both articles completely overlap, covering exactly the same topics, with the Jeju Island article being both shorter (about half the length) and created later. Everything on Jeju Island fits here, and the majority is redundant. The history section is a slightly less developed version of this one. The Economy (and tourism) and Places of interests sections there are less developed versions of the Economy and Tourism sections here. The transportation section there is a slightly more developed version of the transportation section here. The remaining sections there (Etymology, Logo, Geography, Education, Utilities, Naval Base, and Health) are obvious gaps in this article, some being purely political and clearly not written with any page distinction in mind. Merging prevents this duplicative work across two articles with identical scope. (This merge would not preclude a purely geographical article from being created, similar to Geography of Hokkaido/ Geography of Taiwan.) Further to this, the merged article should be moved to Jeju, similar to Hokkaido, as it would be the clear primary topic holding all relevant information. CMD ( talk) 07:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
Noting the edit reversions of @ AG202: and @ MargaretRDonald: concerning the usage of data.
I do not wish for an edit war. However, I do not believe a wikimedia article should be used as arbiters of word usage: Wikipedia pages report on word usage only, and the page Data correctly reports that in common parlance, the word data is frequently treated as singular, while in scientific articles it is (almost?) universally treated as plural. (And in all the many hundreds of scientific articles I have read, the subject, data, has always taken a plural verb.)
The page, Jeju Province, reports two scientific articles, one on scarlet fever, and one on the prevalence of antibodies for SFTS in blood. Both articles (reference 85 - https://www.jpmph.org/upload/pdf/jpmph-52-3-188.pdf & reference 86 - https://icjournal.org/DOIx.php?id=10.3947/ic.2019.51.4.337) treat data as plural. Wikimedians should honour their sources. Hence, the page Jeju Province should treat data as plural when reporting the findings of these two papers.
Please read the papers and permit me to honour the English of the original authors and permit me change the usage of data to plural on this page. MargaretRDonald ( talk) 21:31, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
For a quick research project I was looking through the sources trying to find more resources for Bangsatap, however I found Citation 37 to lead to two messages in Korean and Japanese. A quick Google translate gives the message: A translation request was made via a server to which access is not permitted.
With this source not being available, the entire paragraph about Bangastap has no citations whatsoever.
While this is a relatively small part of the article, there is only two cited examples of culture/society in the section for Society and Culture. Aperture LENS ( talk) 17:27, 14 May 2024 (UTC)