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Rep. Schmidt was exposed on video on Labor Day, 2009 telling a constituent that she shares the belief in the conspiracy theory that President Obama is not a U.S. citizen. This needs to be included in her page under "Controversies".
Here is the source of the story: http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0909/Rep_Schmidt_whispers_I_agree_with_you_to_birther.html
From the Politico article:
Here's the link to the YouTube video in which Schmidt agrees with a Birther constituent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YshG_Ok8idc&feature=player_embedded
Somebody should add this to the controversy page, the story is notable enough that multiple news outlets have picked it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.118.70 ( talk) 03:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.138.3 ( talk) 02:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
How is it appropriate to predict a future election result, especially without citing any poll information?
I think its appropriate to cite Schmidt's advantage, based on the political makeup of the district, but to say she is widely expected to win is not a netrual position.
Besides the makeup of the district, what other source can you reference to bolster this opinion? Schnu
Q: What's the source of NRCC assertion? Don't see it in google news. PedanticallySpeaking 19:20, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
An Answer: To be honest, I did not attempt to confirm it. I just believed that it was not vandalism but rather someone's honest contribution. It seems there are a lot of mentions of this on some of the bigger left-wing blogs: [1]. I think that all the polling is internal to the parties and thus it isn't something that will come out in the formal news. Maybe it would be best to wait until a non-partisan source does a survey -- or wait a few days until August 2. -- Ben Houston 20:02, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
"Hackett's fellow Dems in the blogosphere got so desperate at the end of the campaign that they began to accuse her campaign manager of being a closet S&M freak."
It's still there and it needs complete removal.
Don't forget, though, there were actual accusations that her campaign manager used his work email for his personal ad on an ohio S/M site. If reporting that makes people "desperate" for anything, whatever. It doesn't chance that the accusations were far from baseless. Taniwha 16:01, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I'll work on upgrading the general election section, but I don't have time today. I suggest anyone interested look at the Paul Hackett article, which is up to date in this regard. PedanticallySpeaking 16:02, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
I don't want to edit your work, PedanticallySpeaking, but since much of the material in the final section discusses more about Hackett and the race itself than Schmidt (and I think this was also on Hackett's page), maybe it should be trimmed or deleted. -- JamesB3 10:24, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
This article says Schmidt was the first female Republican from Ohio elected to Congress in her own right. What about Deborah Pryce? -- JamesB3 09:40, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
This has been added as it is a standardised infobox included on almost all FA articles about a person. - Ta bu shi da yu 01:47, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
Someone had inserted the following, giving [3] as a reference:
I have removed this. For such a strong claim, I want to see better references from reputable sources. All I could find were lots ob blogs, but no serious news sources. (Maybe it's true, maybe not—I don't know at all. But if it is true, we should be able to reference it to something better than your average blog.) Lupo 10:31, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
I was involved in the campaign and the statement that Joe Braun was a BDSM fetishist is completely crazy. Late in any campaign, people will start making up rumors and the more bizzare they are the more attention they get. Apparently someone registered at a BDSM site with a personal email address slightly different than Joes and subsequent people photoshopped the screen shot to make it look like his actual email. While it was a lot of fun to joke about at headquarters, there was never anyone who took it seriously besides the bloggers.
Why was the tidbit about hear slander of Rep. Murtha removed? We should be clear that Jean Schmidt will carry that to the grave and beyond. Why are her supporters fighting history?
I'm deleting it once more because I have not seen this in any reputable source and from my bibliography, you can believe me that I did a thorough examination of the materials. PedanticallySpeaking 16:33, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
I've added a sentence, with reference, regarding the uproar she caused in the US House with her attack on Rep. Murtha. I believe it to be in the most relevant place, POV-Neutral and documented. (I wasn't logged in when I added it, but the 216.103.80.214 entry is mine). Snowhare
PedanticallySpeaking edit of 15:01, 19 November 2005 is good, but it lacks footnotes/references that back the additional information. The CNN article does not contain any of the retraction information. I've added a reference for it. Snowhare 15:52, November 19, 2005 (UTC)
The expansion of material is far too much for the event. One paragraph, as before, was sufficient. This would be more appropriate for an article on Hunter's resolution rather than here. And in the expansion, the redefinition of taking down words was made incorrect. PedanticallySpeaking 17:39, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
I added the reports from Washington Post and Nytimes about Rep. Col. Danny Bubp, whose words were cited by Ms Schmidt; apparently he doesn't admit those words were from him at all. -- 129.119.223.165 17:08, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
I don't really think this article should contain SNL's story or the detailed back and forth on the House Floor, as those are totally irrelavent with Ms. Schmidt. Just stats what she said and what Danny Bubp said is enough to clarify the whole case. I did NOT modify anything, but urge other editors to consider my suggestions-the article is way too bloated with irrelavent content!-- 129.119.223.165 00:13, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
The article is exceeding Wikipedia's recommended length. I suggest a lot of the detail on the 2005 election should be moved to the Ohio Second Congressional District Election, 2005 article or trimmed. This article should about Jean, her background, and her career. Not pages of detail of one election that overlaps with the the Ohio Second Congressional District Election, 2005 article and the Hackett bio article. Your thoughts? Rillian 19:42, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
The article mentions that Ohio's second district borders West Virginia. It does not. It only borders Kentucky. The second district map provided shows that. Ohio's sixth district is the only one that I know that borders West Virginia.
"They think I'm a hottie," she said. "Of course, I denied all of them..."
The Plain Dealer reports on its website that Schmidt may not have earned a college degree she claims. I am asking for confirmation from the University of Cincinnati and will note this in the biography when I find out more. PedanticallySpeaking 16:16, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the NPOV tag and reverted the article to what it was before recent edits by 138.162.5.7. That reversion removes the NPOV tag. I have also made minor edits to the article because I agree that the wording could be improved to make it more NPOV.
I note the following:
If, after my changes, someone feels the article is still biased as a whole, please list the MANY things that make it so. If it only has problems with a few sentences, then make reasonable edits and avoid characterizing the entire article as problematical. John Broughton 22:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
It's too bad that the campaign has swapped out the original biography page, putting up this instead, because I don't think there is any question that the photo in question (no longer available on the biography page) is genuine. The [ [4] most recent story] cites independent verification. As far as the two points of argument:
I was pleasantly surprised by how NPOV this page is, considering the bias that I perceive in the articles for other Republican politicians. But I do have one question: What is the point of the "Saturday Night Live" paragraph? It seems to me quite irrelevant and somewhat predjudicial. Kardreader 03:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed these from the reference section because they are not directly tied specific sources, some aren't linked, and this excessive list takes up a lot of room. See Wikipedia:Footnotes for proper referencing method. Arbusto 00:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
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help)Some of this is awfully duplicative of what's in Ohio 2nd congressional district election, 2006. Should we trim here and/or move stuff over there? -- Sholom 18:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
The intro to the article states that Schmidt called Murtha a "coward" on the capitol floor. This is technically not true, as she did not directly call him a coward. Many people have interpreted (probably correctly) her statement as "calling Murtha a coward," but it violates NPOV for Wikipedia to state that. Just state the facts. 209.247.23.129 01:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Jean Schmidt has, in fact, been certified as the winner of the November, 2006 election over Victoria Wulsin. When I went to the Jean Schmidt page to try to update it with this fact, I couldn't get to that part of the article. Someone who has the power needs to do the update.
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I deleted a section, once title "Armenian issue", because it had been originally copied from a partisan website. [33] If this lawsuit is significant we should be able to find mainstream reliable sources for it and we should write fresh text summarizing them. Will Beback talk 20:56, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
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As of this writing, our article shows Schmidt's middle name as being "Mary". However, I am having a hard time verifying that it is "Mary" as opposed to "Marie".
This book, Encyclopedia of Women and American Politics by Lynne E. Ford, lists her as Jeannette Marie Hoffman Schmidt. Other sources that are not necessarily definitive list her similarly.
This House of Representatives page does not give any middle name.
A Google search for "Jeannette Mary Schmidt" did not bring back a lot of promising results; Most of the results related to Congress were mirrors of WP.
Any thoughts or observations on this from anyone? Thanks KConWiki ( talk) 00:11, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
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Rep. Schmidt was exposed on video on Labor Day, 2009 telling a constituent that she shares the belief in the conspiracy theory that President Obama is not a U.S. citizen. This needs to be included in her page under "Controversies".
Here is the source of the story: http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0909/Rep_Schmidt_whispers_I_agree_with_you_to_birther.html
From the Politico article:
Here's the link to the YouTube video in which Schmidt agrees with a Birther constituent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YshG_Ok8idc&feature=player_embedded
Somebody should add this to the controversy page, the story is notable enough that multiple news outlets have picked it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.118.70 ( talk) 03:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.138.3 ( talk) 02:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
How is it appropriate to predict a future election result, especially without citing any poll information?
I think its appropriate to cite Schmidt's advantage, based on the political makeup of the district, but to say she is widely expected to win is not a netrual position.
Besides the makeup of the district, what other source can you reference to bolster this opinion? Schnu
Q: What's the source of NRCC assertion? Don't see it in google news. PedanticallySpeaking 19:20, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
An Answer: To be honest, I did not attempt to confirm it. I just believed that it was not vandalism but rather someone's honest contribution. It seems there are a lot of mentions of this on some of the bigger left-wing blogs: [1]. I think that all the polling is internal to the parties and thus it isn't something that will come out in the formal news. Maybe it would be best to wait until a non-partisan source does a survey -- or wait a few days until August 2. -- Ben Houston 20:02, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
"Hackett's fellow Dems in the blogosphere got so desperate at the end of the campaign that they began to accuse her campaign manager of being a closet S&M freak."
It's still there and it needs complete removal.
Don't forget, though, there were actual accusations that her campaign manager used his work email for his personal ad on an ohio S/M site. If reporting that makes people "desperate" for anything, whatever. It doesn't chance that the accusations were far from baseless. Taniwha 16:01, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I'll work on upgrading the general election section, but I don't have time today. I suggest anyone interested look at the Paul Hackett article, which is up to date in this regard. PedanticallySpeaking 16:02, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
I don't want to edit your work, PedanticallySpeaking, but since much of the material in the final section discusses more about Hackett and the race itself than Schmidt (and I think this was also on Hackett's page), maybe it should be trimmed or deleted. -- JamesB3 10:24, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
This article says Schmidt was the first female Republican from Ohio elected to Congress in her own right. What about Deborah Pryce? -- JamesB3 09:40, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
This has been added as it is a standardised infobox included on almost all FA articles about a person. - Ta bu shi da yu 01:47, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
Someone had inserted the following, giving [3] as a reference:
I have removed this. For such a strong claim, I want to see better references from reputable sources. All I could find were lots ob blogs, but no serious news sources. (Maybe it's true, maybe not—I don't know at all. But if it is true, we should be able to reference it to something better than your average blog.) Lupo 10:31, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
I was involved in the campaign and the statement that Joe Braun was a BDSM fetishist is completely crazy. Late in any campaign, people will start making up rumors and the more bizzare they are the more attention they get. Apparently someone registered at a BDSM site with a personal email address slightly different than Joes and subsequent people photoshopped the screen shot to make it look like his actual email. While it was a lot of fun to joke about at headquarters, there was never anyone who took it seriously besides the bloggers.
Why was the tidbit about hear slander of Rep. Murtha removed? We should be clear that Jean Schmidt will carry that to the grave and beyond. Why are her supporters fighting history?
I'm deleting it once more because I have not seen this in any reputable source and from my bibliography, you can believe me that I did a thorough examination of the materials. PedanticallySpeaking 16:33, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
I've added a sentence, with reference, regarding the uproar she caused in the US House with her attack on Rep. Murtha. I believe it to be in the most relevant place, POV-Neutral and documented. (I wasn't logged in when I added it, but the 216.103.80.214 entry is mine). Snowhare
PedanticallySpeaking edit of 15:01, 19 November 2005 is good, but it lacks footnotes/references that back the additional information. The CNN article does not contain any of the retraction information. I've added a reference for it. Snowhare 15:52, November 19, 2005 (UTC)
The expansion of material is far too much for the event. One paragraph, as before, was sufficient. This would be more appropriate for an article on Hunter's resolution rather than here. And in the expansion, the redefinition of taking down words was made incorrect. PedanticallySpeaking 17:39, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
I added the reports from Washington Post and Nytimes about Rep. Col. Danny Bubp, whose words were cited by Ms Schmidt; apparently he doesn't admit those words were from him at all. -- 129.119.223.165 17:08, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
I don't really think this article should contain SNL's story or the detailed back and forth on the House Floor, as those are totally irrelavent with Ms. Schmidt. Just stats what she said and what Danny Bubp said is enough to clarify the whole case. I did NOT modify anything, but urge other editors to consider my suggestions-the article is way too bloated with irrelavent content!-- 129.119.223.165 00:13, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
The article is exceeding Wikipedia's recommended length. I suggest a lot of the detail on the 2005 election should be moved to the Ohio Second Congressional District Election, 2005 article or trimmed. This article should about Jean, her background, and her career. Not pages of detail of one election that overlaps with the the Ohio Second Congressional District Election, 2005 article and the Hackett bio article. Your thoughts? Rillian 19:42, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
The article mentions that Ohio's second district borders West Virginia. It does not. It only borders Kentucky. The second district map provided shows that. Ohio's sixth district is the only one that I know that borders West Virginia.
"They think I'm a hottie," she said. "Of course, I denied all of them..."
The Plain Dealer reports on its website that Schmidt may not have earned a college degree she claims. I am asking for confirmation from the University of Cincinnati and will note this in the biography when I find out more. PedanticallySpeaking 16:16, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the NPOV tag and reverted the article to what it was before recent edits by 138.162.5.7. That reversion removes the NPOV tag. I have also made minor edits to the article because I agree that the wording could be improved to make it more NPOV.
I note the following:
If, after my changes, someone feels the article is still biased as a whole, please list the MANY things that make it so. If it only has problems with a few sentences, then make reasonable edits and avoid characterizing the entire article as problematical. John Broughton 22:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
It's too bad that the campaign has swapped out the original biography page, putting up this instead, because I don't think there is any question that the photo in question (no longer available on the biography page) is genuine. The [ [4] most recent story] cites independent verification. As far as the two points of argument:
I was pleasantly surprised by how NPOV this page is, considering the bias that I perceive in the articles for other Republican politicians. But I do have one question: What is the point of the "Saturday Night Live" paragraph? It seems to me quite irrelevant and somewhat predjudicial. Kardreader 03:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
I removed these from the reference section because they are not directly tied specific sources, some aren't linked, and this excessive list takes up a lot of room. See Wikipedia:Footnotes for proper referencing method. Arbusto 00:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
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help)Some of this is awfully duplicative of what's in Ohio 2nd congressional district election, 2006. Should we trim here and/or move stuff over there? -- Sholom 18:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
The intro to the article states that Schmidt called Murtha a "coward" on the capitol floor. This is technically not true, as she did not directly call him a coward. Many people have interpreted (probably correctly) her statement as "calling Murtha a coward," but it violates NPOV for Wikipedia to state that. Just state the facts. 209.247.23.129 01:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Jean Schmidt has, in fact, been certified as the winner of the November, 2006 election over Victoria Wulsin. When I went to the Jean Schmidt page to try to update it with this fact, I couldn't get to that part of the article. Someone who has the power needs to do the update.
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I deleted a section, once title "Armenian issue", because it had been originally copied from a partisan website. [33] If this lawsuit is significant we should be able to find mainstream reliable sources for it and we should write fresh text summarizing them. Will Beback talk 20:56, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
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Hello fellow Wikipedians,
As of this writing, our article shows Schmidt's middle name as being "Mary". However, I am having a hard time verifying that it is "Mary" as opposed to "Marie".
This book, Encyclopedia of Women and American Politics by Lynne E. Ford, lists her as Jeannette Marie Hoffman Schmidt. Other sources that are not necessarily definitive list her similarly.
This House of Representatives page does not give any middle name.
A Google search for "Jeannette Mary Schmidt" did not bring back a lot of promising results; Most of the results related to Congress were mirrors of WP.
Any thoughts or observations on this from anyone? Thanks KConWiki ( talk) 00:11, 17 July 2019 (UTC)