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I took out the smartest girl in porn reference because I could not find any citations or quotes of anyone claiming her to be the "smartest girl in porn." As I stated before (see above), it's POSSIBLE that she was, but unless it can be verfied by a reliable source, it should not be listed here. Jbm867 20:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Both of us, (this is Jasmin), have been to great schools. I indeed did go to Columbia. Asia is a Mensa member. I never claimed to be a member. I am also NOT BISEXUAL. Thanks Jasmin User:76.166.185.90 05:50, 27 October 2007
I have done a little research on this and nowhere could I find any credible sources proclaiming her "the smartest girl in porn". In fact, the only person making this claim is Jasmin herself, as I found in 4 different interviews with her. Ignoring whether it's true or not (Though it almost certainly isn't. There are many women in the industry with higher education and better qualifications; Nina Hartley for one and yes, Asia Carerra.), it should not be on her wiki page.
On a related note, Jasmin is editing her own page and filling it with very dubious, self-aggrandising boasts. She seems to believe that her wrestling and "film" "careers" are as (or even more?) noteworthy than her porn career. Surely she shouldn't be allowed to alter her own article?
One more thing, I haven't found a single shred of evidence backing up her claim about attending (let alone graduating) from Columbia. There are in fact interviews with those who worked with her (not just in porn) who seriously doubt her claims aboutnher education and say she had a big reputation for lying. Either way, I don't think it's true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.203.195.81 ( talk) 12:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
That IP 76.166.185.90 doesn't mean it wasn't her. It trace routes to NY. Herndon, VA is just where a WHOIS shows Road Runner that owns that IP range. A great many IP that you just WHOIS will show VA. That IP poster correctly stated she attended McBurney School (closed in 1988) as she claimed was her elementary school on the Howard Stern Show in 1996. She claimed to be 23 on that show but birthdatabase.com shows RHEA A DEVLUGT 1970-07-23 Brooklyn, NY but other background searches show RHEA A DEVLUGT from Marina del Rey born Sep 1962. Her true name could be hard to track due to her father dying and she has a stepfather so maybe she really is Devlugt and Calaveras. I doubt she went to Columbia because she said no when Howard asked if she went to college in NY. 69.22.70.194 ( talk) 04:36, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I've removed the following unsourced line per WP:BLP: (This line removed per WP:BLP) Such a line needs to have a reputable source in order to go into the article otherwise it's borderline libel. Additional: I just found out we aren't even allowed to include such lines in the Talk Pages so I had to remove it from here, too. 23skidoo 21:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
The link for the movie "Swamp Zombies" directs to the link of the band "The Swamp Zombies". I could not find a page for the "Swamp Zombies" movie. Is there one, or if not, can someone create one? for now, I've removed the link.
I will be placing the directions here on how to search the patent, because the page is listed as the result of a query it resets everytime you go to the page. Swampfire ( talk) 23:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
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You click {search} then you will see in the middle of the page this
Then you click {Free Form Search (Advanced Search)} Then in the Search Term field you type in the application number 78463547 and you will see her information Swampfire ( talk) 04:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Beats me. How patents work is not something of which I have a great deal of knowledge. But other sources can be found to support her name, like tv.com, though that source gives her middle name as Alexandria instead of Alexandra. What do you propose? Nightscream ( talk) 19:48, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, so Swampfire's contention is that we need a source for her sexuality. Now correct me if I'm in the uninitiated here, but doesn't the sexuality listing in the Infobox refer only to her onscreen sexuality? Why would it refer to her real-life sexuality, when the Infoboxes for non-pornographic living people do not include this? My guess is that it is not considered relevant to non-porn actors, right? But then doesn't it stand to reason that the only context in which it is relevant for porn actors is their onscreen work? Why would their real-life sexuality be relevant? Nightscream ( talk) 05:12, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I didn't make any statement about other pages being "perfect", or about policy, nor do I know which policy you're referring to. I asked why other types of BLP Infoboxes (which are created with a bit more of deliberation than the typical casual edit) do not list such info. If it's not relevant, as a rule, to be in all BLP infoboxes, then it shouldn't be in any of them, unless it is somehow relevant to in some way to porn actors. The only way I can think of in which it would be is if it referred to their onscreen work. If it doesn't, it should be removed from the Infoboxes altogether. Nightscream ( talk) 13:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
her name and age has been verified via 18 USC 2257 records from an early film titled "Anal Sex Addicts 1" filmed by Starlight Video in 1998.
a whois of metalsdarkside.com reveals that she is the owner. that and a simple visit to the site confirms all information.
information regarding high school is quoted from a howard stern interview, previously stated in her wikipedia but removed by someone discussed above to be jasmin (rhea).
the AKAs were uncovered from visiting the wikipedia pages of other languages (german/spanish/portugese/french)
NWA cyberspace information is verifiable due to the fact that the domain has lapsed and no business permit was ever filed.
Houston info is available on her wikipedia page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stumpy6639 ( talk • contribs) 20:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
so her name rhea devlugt, is disclosed... she actually did a double credit in a 2004 movie called coalition, as jasmin st claire/rhea devlugt. ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0398873/)
her humanarchives page lists her proper birth date —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stumpy6639 ( talk • contribs) 01:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
What nationality is she? JIP | Talk 19:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
On the Howard Stern show in 1996, when she was on to solicit guys for the World's Biggest Gang Bang, she claimed French/Italian now this Google video she claims Brazilian/Russian and acts indignant Wikipedia said French/Italian.
Howard: What are you Italian?
Jasmine: Yea, French and Italian.
later
Jasmine: At the time they were casting for a Playboy video, the Women of Color.
Howard: The women of color? Are you considered a woman of color.
Jasmine: I guess so because I have dark hair, I don't know.
Howard: Yea I thought you were kind of Puerto Rican or something. Satanico ( talk) 00:48, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
No I am looking at the video of her appearance from Howard TV and getting that info. I don't know the exact date the original happened though. 69.22.70.194 ( talk) 04:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
It originally aired on the E! channel in 1996 but now it's uncensored on cable by subscription to Howard TV On Demand. Satanico ( talk) 09:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
If you can find out when it aired, that would help. If you can't, then a rough estimate (try figuring it out by what they're talking about, or what she's promoting), accompanied by the date on which you viewed it might make it appropriate for inclusion. Nightscream ( talk) 19:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
9/11/1996 is the original airdate of the video on the E! channel http://www.marksfriggin.com/earchive/e-96q3.htm The actual interview took place 3/4/96 Porno whore finally shows! http://www.marksfriggin.com/news96_97/mar-96.htm WXRK 92.3 radio New York Satanico ( talk) 19:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:You know, I was willing to grant you some credence on this matter, but when you make inappropriate comments like that, you make difficult to take your assertions at face value. I tried looking for video of the interview at YouTube, but all I found of that interview is a clip indicated to be "Part One" of a multi-part set, and no mention is made in that part of her ethnicity, nor did a Google search turn up any info on that point. Since her own website already conflicts with what she said at the November 08 convention, I'm simply noting those two conflicting accounts. But if you can point me to that video somewhere on the web where she said this, I'll include that too.
Nightscream (
talk) 00:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Given the fact that all that was previously sourced to a video (which is now apparently gone) I see no problem with using another video (obviously authored by the subject) to support this information, despite the fact that it is obviously a primary source. The alternative at this point is to simply remove all that, since it's otherwise impossible to source (as far as I can tell). So if anyone cares enough to object to the changes, please remove all that instead of restoring what was formerly there. § FreeRangeFrog croak 16:51, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
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I took out the smartest girl in porn reference because I could not find any citations or quotes of anyone claiming her to be the "smartest girl in porn." As I stated before (see above), it's POSSIBLE that she was, but unless it can be verfied by a reliable source, it should not be listed here. Jbm867 20:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Both of us, (this is Jasmin), have been to great schools. I indeed did go to Columbia. Asia is a Mensa member. I never claimed to be a member. I am also NOT BISEXUAL. Thanks Jasmin User:76.166.185.90 05:50, 27 October 2007
I have done a little research on this and nowhere could I find any credible sources proclaiming her "the smartest girl in porn". In fact, the only person making this claim is Jasmin herself, as I found in 4 different interviews with her. Ignoring whether it's true or not (Though it almost certainly isn't. There are many women in the industry with higher education and better qualifications; Nina Hartley for one and yes, Asia Carerra.), it should not be on her wiki page.
On a related note, Jasmin is editing her own page and filling it with very dubious, self-aggrandising boasts. She seems to believe that her wrestling and "film" "careers" are as (or even more?) noteworthy than her porn career. Surely she shouldn't be allowed to alter her own article?
One more thing, I haven't found a single shred of evidence backing up her claim about attending (let alone graduating) from Columbia. There are in fact interviews with those who worked with her (not just in porn) who seriously doubt her claims aboutnher education and say she had a big reputation for lying. Either way, I don't think it's true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.203.195.81 ( talk) 12:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
That IP 76.166.185.90 doesn't mean it wasn't her. It trace routes to NY. Herndon, VA is just where a WHOIS shows Road Runner that owns that IP range. A great many IP that you just WHOIS will show VA. That IP poster correctly stated she attended McBurney School (closed in 1988) as she claimed was her elementary school on the Howard Stern Show in 1996. She claimed to be 23 on that show but birthdatabase.com shows RHEA A DEVLUGT 1970-07-23 Brooklyn, NY but other background searches show RHEA A DEVLUGT from Marina del Rey born Sep 1962. Her true name could be hard to track due to her father dying and she has a stepfather so maybe she really is Devlugt and Calaveras. I doubt she went to Columbia because she said no when Howard asked if she went to college in NY. 69.22.70.194 ( talk) 04:36, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I've removed the following unsourced line per WP:BLP: (This line removed per WP:BLP) Such a line needs to have a reputable source in order to go into the article otherwise it's borderline libel. Additional: I just found out we aren't even allowed to include such lines in the Talk Pages so I had to remove it from here, too. 23skidoo 21:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
The link for the movie "Swamp Zombies" directs to the link of the band "The Swamp Zombies". I could not find a page for the "Swamp Zombies" movie. Is there one, or if not, can someone create one? for now, I've removed the link.
I will be placing the directions here on how to search the patent, because the page is listed as the result of a query it resets everytime you go to the page. Swampfire ( talk) 23:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
to file, search, check status, view documents, and more...
You click {search} then you will see in the middle of the page this
Then you click {Free Form Search (Advanced Search)} Then in the Search Term field you type in the application number 78463547 and you will see her information Swampfire ( talk) 04:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Beats me. How patents work is not something of which I have a great deal of knowledge. But other sources can be found to support her name, like tv.com, though that source gives her middle name as Alexandria instead of Alexandra. What do you propose? Nightscream ( talk) 19:48, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, so Swampfire's contention is that we need a source for her sexuality. Now correct me if I'm in the uninitiated here, but doesn't the sexuality listing in the Infobox refer only to her onscreen sexuality? Why would it refer to her real-life sexuality, when the Infoboxes for non-pornographic living people do not include this? My guess is that it is not considered relevant to non-porn actors, right? But then doesn't it stand to reason that the only context in which it is relevant for porn actors is their onscreen work? Why would their real-life sexuality be relevant? Nightscream ( talk) 05:12, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I didn't make any statement about other pages being "perfect", or about policy, nor do I know which policy you're referring to. I asked why other types of BLP Infoboxes (which are created with a bit more of deliberation than the typical casual edit) do not list such info. If it's not relevant, as a rule, to be in all BLP infoboxes, then it shouldn't be in any of them, unless it is somehow relevant to in some way to porn actors. The only way I can think of in which it would be is if it referred to their onscreen work. If it doesn't, it should be removed from the Infoboxes altogether. Nightscream ( talk) 13:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
her name and age has been verified via 18 USC 2257 records from an early film titled "Anal Sex Addicts 1" filmed by Starlight Video in 1998.
a whois of metalsdarkside.com reveals that she is the owner. that and a simple visit to the site confirms all information.
information regarding high school is quoted from a howard stern interview, previously stated in her wikipedia but removed by someone discussed above to be jasmin (rhea).
the AKAs were uncovered from visiting the wikipedia pages of other languages (german/spanish/portugese/french)
NWA cyberspace information is verifiable due to the fact that the domain has lapsed and no business permit was ever filed.
Houston info is available on her wikipedia page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stumpy6639 ( talk • contribs) 20:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
so her name rhea devlugt, is disclosed... she actually did a double credit in a 2004 movie called coalition, as jasmin st claire/rhea devlugt. ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0398873/)
her humanarchives page lists her proper birth date —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stumpy6639 ( talk • contribs) 01:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
What nationality is she? JIP | Talk 19:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
On the Howard Stern show in 1996, when she was on to solicit guys for the World's Biggest Gang Bang, she claimed French/Italian now this Google video she claims Brazilian/Russian and acts indignant Wikipedia said French/Italian.
Howard: What are you Italian?
Jasmine: Yea, French and Italian.
later
Jasmine: At the time they were casting for a Playboy video, the Women of Color.
Howard: The women of color? Are you considered a woman of color.
Jasmine: I guess so because I have dark hair, I don't know.
Howard: Yea I thought you were kind of Puerto Rican or something. Satanico ( talk) 00:48, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
No I am looking at the video of her appearance from Howard TV and getting that info. I don't know the exact date the original happened though. 69.22.70.194 ( talk) 04:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
It originally aired on the E! channel in 1996 but now it's uncensored on cable by subscription to Howard TV On Demand. Satanico ( talk) 09:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
If you can find out when it aired, that would help. If you can't, then a rough estimate (try figuring it out by what they're talking about, or what she's promoting), accompanied by the date on which you viewed it might make it appropriate for inclusion. Nightscream ( talk) 19:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
9/11/1996 is the original airdate of the video on the E! channel http://www.marksfriggin.com/earchive/e-96q3.htm The actual interview took place 3/4/96 Porno whore finally shows! http://www.marksfriggin.com/news96_97/mar-96.htm WXRK 92.3 radio New York Satanico ( talk) 19:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:You know, I was willing to grant you some credence on this matter, but when you make inappropriate comments like that, you make difficult to take your assertions at face value. I tried looking for video of the interview at YouTube, but all I found of that interview is a clip indicated to be "Part One" of a multi-part set, and no mention is made in that part of her ethnicity, nor did a Google search turn up any info on that point. Since her own website already conflicts with what she said at the November 08 convention, I'm simply noting those two conflicting accounts. But if you can point me to that video somewhere on the web where she said this, I'll include that too.
Nightscream (
talk) 00:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Given the fact that all that was previously sourced to a video (which is now apparently gone) I see no problem with using another video (obviously authored by the subject) to support this information, despite the fact that it is obviously a primary source. The alternative at this point is to simply remove all that, since it's otherwise impossible to source (as far as I can tell). So if anyone cares enough to object to the changes, please remove all that instead of restoring what was formerly there. § FreeRangeFrog croak 16:51, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
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