This is not a Sock puppet account I forgot the password to Bleu_Bayou and could get no help at getting into it, so I created this one. Any admin that reads this please close the account named Bleu_Bayou as I will not be using it anymore. Swampfire ( talk) 18:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Is it alright if I redirected the Bleu_Bayou pages to these, or would you prefer I not do so? - Jéské ( v^_^v Detarder) 18:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Rock and Roll has its stylistic origins in blues, but that does not neccessarily make blues into rock music. If you do not believe me, see the article for Blues. I removed Tedeschi because her article infobox describes her as a blues and soul singer, not a rock singer, and the fact that HER OWN WEBSITE describes her as a blues/soul singer. I am not trying to be difficult, I merely go by what the article about an individual says. Asarelah ( talk) 23:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Would you please stop adding pop to Stone's genres? Her music is cleary soul and does not have a pop appeal. Radio stations and award nominations do not determine a musician's genre. Also, please do not change "English" to "British", regardless of what her website says. Thank you. Funk Junkie ( talk) 18:16, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Are you even paying attention to your own edits? If you bothered to do so, you'd see that jossstone.com is already there, but it's not formatted as per Template:Infobox Musical artist#URL. It's not possible to reach a consensus—which you don't appear to be willing to—when you keep reverting others' edits without even taking a good look at them. Consequently I've just been warned for edit warring, and so have you. I'll not carry the can. Funk Junkie ( talk) 23:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Please read and understand WP:BLP. By your responses to User:Tabercil, it is clear that you still do not, since you claimed he missed the point. WP:BLP (a policy, not a guideline) helps to prevent Wikipedia from being sued. WP:BLP requires that unsourced material, whether particularly controversial or not, positive or negative, be removed without discussion if it is uncited. It also requires that anyone adding or restoring such material only do so when including citations for those claims. I do not understand why you do not understand the policy, or are unwilling to read it, but you seem to have embarked on a crusade of monitoring my edits and undoing my WP:BLP reversions, which is seriously problematic to the project. I understand that WP:BLP was a relatively recent (within the last year) change to Wikipedia's basic policies, and is upsetting to most editors who aren't familiar with it, but it is essential to keeping Wikipedia safe, accurate, and unlitigated. Please consider this when undoing WP:BLP edits in the future. Thank you for listening. Xihr ( talk) 07:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Discussions have already taken place. Swampfire ( talk) 19:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello Swampfire, please have look at Wikipedia:Relevance of content for a guidance on details to be included in an article. You may want to have look at Wikipedia:Notability as well. Inwind ( talk) 07:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Please read WP:WAF, specifically the section on in-universe tone. You are treating the character as if he is real. He wasn't born on June 13, because he isn't real. That's merely a date associated with the character in his fictional universe. We write in an out-of-universe tone, which means we don't associate elements with characters that make it appear like they are real. In other words, just because he is fictional and has a "birthdate" does not mean you write the article as if you were writing it about a real person. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 16:50, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Steve Miner's words:"Jason's coming through the windows was written as reality. My intent was this: Paul is, in fact, killed by Jason. Ginny survives. She asks, when found, 'Paul! Paul! Where's Paul?' Then we cut to Jason's shack, and a close-up on Mrs. Voorhees' head. It's bathed in faint light, staring at the camera. Slowly, distinctly, a diabolical smile forms at the corners of its mouth. In other words, in ansswer to Ginny's question, the smile tells us that Jason has killed Paul. That is how I wrote it and that's how Steve Miner filmed it."
Just throwing that out there. There really isn't much more that needs to be said of the matter. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 03:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)"John [Fury] was a total professional and he did everything that was asked of him. If the ending was vague, that was the film's fault, not his."
NOTE: after losing this discussion on their talk pages because neither could provide facts, only assumptions. Both ran from discussion, immediately hid it in their archives as well as admitting that PAUL just came here to argue on BIGNOLEs side and how fun it was.. I will ad links to their archives. Along with the fact that BOTH violated WP:NPA and were warned. But tried to hide their warnings as well. Swampfire ( talk) 14:08, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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Please see the sources provided for Waycross extending into Pierce County. You can also check the map on the article (it plainly extends out of Ware) and check this map, page 14. Nyttend ( talk) 20:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
that are all on the article, since they're not listed on that page. If you check the source provided for Waycross being in Pierce County, you'll see that it's only a small portion with a very few residents: this indeed entitles it to be included, but it means that a quick survey like this, which doesn't include plenty of small communities, isn't likely to include it either. Nyttend ( talk) 12:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I responded again on Nyttend's page, and posted my suggested new opener on the Talk:Waycross, Georgia. Dcmacnut ( talk) 01:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Could you point me at where a consensus that sporting event articles should only include results was reached. Thanks -- Nate1481( t/ c) 08:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, something like that would be fine by me :). I changed it a little bit though. Does it seem OK to you? -- aktsu ( t / c) 18:27, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I followed procedure - not sure. Best, A Sniper ( talk) 05:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Please do not make edits to wikipedia articles based solely on your opinion in something. The controversial note that you erased from Forrest Griffin was referenced and cited. There is even a grievance that has been filed in an attempt to reverse the decision. That would mean it is pretty controversial. In the future, please use the discussion page on the article if you believe something that is referenced and/or well known should be removed from an article. Thanks. -- Xander756 ( talk) 16:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Here is another source quoted: "mostly everyone besides the judges felt the bout was much closer than the numbers indicated." and "In fact, according to Dave Meltzer, those in press row were split between a close Griffin win and a draw." http://mmamania.com/2008/07/06/forrest-griffin-vs-quinton-rampage-jackson-judges-scorecards-revealed/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xander756 ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree :) I wrote a reply on WT:MMA. I'll give it a few days to see if anyone disagrees and then move them. -- aktsu ( t / c) 14:37, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
This rule applies to reverting the same edit over 3 times. It does not apply to reverting the same article but different information. If it did, then if someone blanked the article (after I reverted your edits 3 times) it would be violating the policy for me to revert it. Obviously this is not correct. Please read the policy before giving false warnings. I have taken the warning down and may notify an administrator if you continue to give unwarranted warnings. This could be seen as harassment. -- Xander756 ( talk) 21:25, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
I was just now writing a new proposal for the Jackson-Griffin part of the article, and didn't see you were also working on it. I'm guessing some what you just wrote should be integrated in it as I didn't know the status of the protest while I was writing. I'm thinking it has a more neutral point of view then the current articles (which basically says "Griffin owned" and nothing about why the fight was considered close etc). What do you think?
After the end of The Ultimate Fighter 7, Griffin fought Rampage On July 5 2008 at UFC 86 for the UFC Light Heavyweight Championship with Griffin viewed as an heavy underdog by oddsmakers going into the fight. [1] In the bout, Griffin pushed the pace of the fight from the opening bell, keeping his distance with long jabs and leg kicks, while Jackson continuously looked for a knockout. [2] Jackson nearly stopped Griffin in the first round after dropping him with an uppercut, but Griffin survived and went on his own offensive in the second round hurting "Rampage" with leg kicks and eventually mounting him for nearly three minutes. [2] The remaining rounds were far closer, thus not leaving a clear-cut victor at the end of the fight. [2] The official judges scored the bout 48-46, 48-46 and 49-46 for Griffin giving him an unanimous decision victory, and making him the new UFC Light Heavyweight Champion. After the fight Jackson's trainer Juanito Ibarra, unhappy with the judges scoring, expressed plans to protest the unanimous decision with the Nevada State Athletic Commission. [3] Griffin's documented pay for the fight was $250,000. $100,000 to fight and a win bonus of $150,000.
Thanks! -- aktsu ( t / c) 08:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I re-wrote your controversy section which I think will be acceptable to you. There is no need to state that the trainer was going to file a protest, reference it, then state that he did not and reference it separately. Instead, I put that he was going to file then didn't and simply referenced the fact that he did not file. No reason to go much into detail here. I think that we also don't need to reference that with two separate articles, one will do nicely. Also, the word controversial is referenced four times above and I think one reference might fit better there as well if you would like to choose which you think is the most credible. -- Xander756 ( talk) 00:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for clearing that up. Since I'm not familiar with the subject, what I first took for vandalism then looked like a legit edit once I did a search on it. Perhaps another column in the chart is needed for "weigh-in shirt slogans"... :) Dreadstar † 00:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments in my editing. You will note that throughout my extensive editing of the above page, I attempted to discuss all the issues on the talk page, but got little response. I have no wish to engage in an edit war but would prefer to reach a consensus via talk. Martin Hogbin ( talk) 08:44, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments. As I have clearly stated on the article talk page, I have nothing against Tesla but, at present, his claims are presented in a completely different way from all the other contenders. What I am trying to do is to create a level playing field where like claims, presented in a similar strictly factual way, can be compared. I would prefer to continue talking about the subject on the talk page where the views of others can be heard. Martin Hogbin ( talk) 18:04, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
First of all, i don't have a problem with how it is now, you do. It's not trivia instead of deleting it like you are doing why don't you try and put it in with the article.Your WP:TRIVIA doesn't even cover what is in the personal life section so I don't understand your argument.( MgTurtle ( talk) 20:36, 7 August 2008 (UTC))
Did read it.Other articles have the same sections so should we change them all?That's going to be a lot of work.I still don't agree with your argument but i'll change it for people like you.( MgTurtle ( talk) 20:42, 7 August 2008 (UTC)).
I reverted your move. I also saw that listing when searching, but it's not the actual event but probably a replay (of whatever, all the fights or something, on spike). To find the actual event page, look up a fighter fighting on the card and click on the event on their fight record. -- aktsu ( t / c) 22:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Jon Fitch being tied for 1st with 8 win streak is a good personal accomplishment, sorry but that was not what this list was made for. It's for people who won some kind of an award in the UFC. I have to revert that back, I have no problem with this being listed under Jon Fitch's personal accomplishment, on his page. EHDI5YS ( talk) 01:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)-- EHDI5YS ( talk) 01:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Fine then uncapitalized them then, I didn't removed Ken Shamrock, I moved Shamrock out of the heavyweight and put him ounder the light heavyweight list. He is & was more active as an LH fighter. You don't see PJ Penn under ww & LW, yet he won the UFC title in both weights. EHDI5YS ( talk) 12:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)-- EHDI5YS ( talk) 12:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for adding the Metal's Darkside link as a citation. However, there are two points that need to be made: First, in this edit, you removed the description of the Lost Art interview citation. Why is this? This suggest that you hit the "Undo" function without first seeing that all the edits needed to be reversed. Obviously, you should check all the edits to make sure they are thus. Second, you re-added information about her sexuality that was previously removed because it was unsourced, and you did this without providing a source. Please do not add such material to articles, as it violates Wikipedia's Verifiability policy. Thanks. Nightscream ( talk) 02:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, please discuss the issue about the UFC 39/41 tournament on Talk:List of UFC champions before editing it further. I have notified others involved with the issue as well, since continued edit warring can result in the full protection of the page from any editing. hateless 02:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
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This is not a Sock puppet account I forgot the password to Bleu_Bayou and could get no help at getting into it, so I created this one. Any admin that reads this please close the account named Bleu_Bayou as I will not be using it anymore. Swampfire ( talk) 18:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Is it alright if I redirected the Bleu_Bayou pages to these, or would you prefer I not do so? - Jéské ( v^_^v Detarder) 18:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Rock and Roll has its stylistic origins in blues, but that does not neccessarily make blues into rock music. If you do not believe me, see the article for Blues. I removed Tedeschi because her article infobox describes her as a blues and soul singer, not a rock singer, and the fact that HER OWN WEBSITE describes her as a blues/soul singer. I am not trying to be difficult, I merely go by what the article about an individual says. Asarelah ( talk) 23:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Would you please stop adding pop to Stone's genres? Her music is cleary soul and does not have a pop appeal. Radio stations and award nominations do not determine a musician's genre. Also, please do not change "English" to "British", regardless of what her website says. Thank you. Funk Junkie ( talk) 18:16, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Are you even paying attention to your own edits? If you bothered to do so, you'd see that jossstone.com is already there, but it's not formatted as per Template:Infobox Musical artist#URL. It's not possible to reach a consensus—which you don't appear to be willing to—when you keep reverting others' edits without even taking a good look at them. Consequently I've just been warned for edit warring, and so have you. I'll not carry the can. Funk Junkie ( talk) 23:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Please read and understand WP:BLP. By your responses to User:Tabercil, it is clear that you still do not, since you claimed he missed the point. WP:BLP (a policy, not a guideline) helps to prevent Wikipedia from being sued. WP:BLP requires that unsourced material, whether particularly controversial or not, positive or negative, be removed without discussion if it is uncited. It also requires that anyone adding or restoring such material only do so when including citations for those claims. I do not understand why you do not understand the policy, or are unwilling to read it, but you seem to have embarked on a crusade of monitoring my edits and undoing my WP:BLP reversions, which is seriously problematic to the project. I understand that WP:BLP was a relatively recent (within the last year) change to Wikipedia's basic policies, and is upsetting to most editors who aren't familiar with it, but it is essential to keeping Wikipedia safe, accurate, and unlitigated. Please consider this when undoing WP:BLP edits in the future. Thank you for listening. Xihr ( talk) 07:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Discussions have already taken place. Swampfire ( talk) 19:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello Swampfire, please have look at Wikipedia:Relevance of content for a guidance on details to be included in an article. You may want to have look at Wikipedia:Notability as well. Inwind ( talk) 07:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Please read WP:WAF, specifically the section on in-universe tone. You are treating the character as if he is real. He wasn't born on June 13, because he isn't real. That's merely a date associated with the character in his fictional universe. We write in an out-of-universe tone, which means we don't associate elements with characters that make it appear like they are real. In other words, just because he is fictional and has a "birthdate" does not mean you write the article as if you were writing it about a real person. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 16:50, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Steve Miner's words:"Jason's coming through the windows was written as reality. My intent was this: Paul is, in fact, killed by Jason. Ginny survives. She asks, when found, 'Paul! Paul! Where's Paul?' Then we cut to Jason's shack, and a close-up on Mrs. Voorhees' head. It's bathed in faint light, staring at the camera. Slowly, distinctly, a diabolical smile forms at the corners of its mouth. In other words, in ansswer to Ginny's question, the smile tells us that Jason has killed Paul. That is how I wrote it and that's how Steve Miner filmed it."
Just throwing that out there. There really isn't much more that needs to be said of the matter. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 03:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)"John [Fury] was a total professional and he did everything that was asked of him. If the ending was vague, that was the film's fault, not his."
NOTE: after losing this discussion on their talk pages because neither could provide facts, only assumptions. Both ran from discussion, immediately hid it in their archives as well as admitting that PAUL just came here to argue on BIGNOLEs side and how fun it was.. I will ad links to their archives. Along with the fact that BOTH violated WP:NPA and were warned. But tried to hide their warnings as well. Swampfire ( talk) 14:08, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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Please see the sources provided for Waycross extending into Pierce County. You can also check the map on the article (it plainly extends out of Ware) and check this map, page 14. Nyttend ( talk) 20:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
that are all on the article, since they're not listed on that page. If you check the source provided for Waycross being in Pierce County, you'll see that it's only a small portion with a very few residents: this indeed entitles it to be included, but it means that a quick survey like this, which doesn't include plenty of small communities, isn't likely to include it either. Nyttend ( talk) 12:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I responded again on Nyttend's page, and posted my suggested new opener on the Talk:Waycross, Georgia. Dcmacnut ( talk) 01:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Could you point me at where a consensus that sporting event articles should only include results was reached. Thanks -- Nate1481( t/ c) 08:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, something like that would be fine by me :). I changed it a little bit though. Does it seem OK to you? -- aktsu ( t / c) 18:27, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I followed procedure - not sure. Best, A Sniper ( talk) 05:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Please do not make edits to wikipedia articles based solely on your opinion in something. The controversial note that you erased from Forrest Griffin was referenced and cited. There is even a grievance that has been filed in an attempt to reverse the decision. That would mean it is pretty controversial. In the future, please use the discussion page on the article if you believe something that is referenced and/or well known should be removed from an article. Thanks. -- Xander756 ( talk) 16:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Here is another source quoted: "mostly everyone besides the judges felt the bout was much closer than the numbers indicated." and "In fact, according to Dave Meltzer, those in press row were split between a close Griffin win and a draw." http://mmamania.com/2008/07/06/forrest-griffin-vs-quinton-rampage-jackson-judges-scorecards-revealed/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xander756 ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree :) I wrote a reply on WT:MMA. I'll give it a few days to see if anyone disagrees and then move them. -- aktsu ( t / c) 14:37, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
This rule applies to reverting the same edit over 3 times. It does not apply to reverting the same article but different information. If it did, then if someone blanked the article (after I reverted your edits 3 times) it would be violating the policy for me to revert it. Obviously this is not correct. Please read the policy before giving false warnings. I have taken the warning down and may notify an administrator if you continue to give unwarranted warnings. This could be seen as harassment. -- Xander756 ( talk) 21:25, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
I was just now writing a new proposal for the Jackson-Griffin part of the article, and didn't see you were also working on it. I'm guessing some what you just wrote should be integrated in it as I didn't know the status of the protest while I was writing. I'm thinking it has a more neutral point of view then the current articles (which basically says "Griffin owned" and nothing about why the fight was considered close etc). What do you think?
After the end of The Ultimate Fighter 7, Griffin fought Rampage On July 5 2008 at UFC 86 for the UFC Light Heavyweight Championship with Griffin viewed as an heavy underdog by oddsmakers going into the fight. [1] In the bout, Griffin pushed the pace of the fight from the opening bell, keeping his distance with long jabs and leg kicks, while Jackson continuously looked for a knockout. [2] Jackson nearly stopped Griffin in the first round after dropping him with an uppercut, but Griffin survived and went on his own offensive in the second round hurting "Rampage" with leg kicks and eventually mounting him for nearly three minutes. [2] The remaining rounds were far closer, thus not leaving a clear-cut victor at the end of the fight. [2] The official judges scored the bout 48-46, 48-46 and 49-46 for Griffin giving him an unanimous decision victory, and making him the new UFC Light Heavyweight Champion. After the fight Jackson's trainer Juanito Ibarra, unhappy with the judges scoring, expressed plans to protest the unanimous decision with the Nevada State Athletic Commission. [3] Griffin's documented pay for the fight was $250,000. $100,000 to fight and a win bonus of $150,000.
Thanks! -- aktsu ( t / c) 08:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I re-wrote your controversy section which I think will be acceptable to you. There is no need to state that the trainer was going to file a protest, reference it, then state that he did not and reference it separately. Instead, I put that he was going to file then didn't and simply referenced the fact that he did not file. No reason to go much into detail here. I think that we also don't need to reference that with two separate articles, one will do nicely. Also, the word controversial is referenced four times above and I think one reference might fit better there as well if you would like to choose which you think is the most credible. -- Xander756 ( talk) 00:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for clearing that up. Since I'm not familiar with the subject, what I first took for vandalism then looked like a legit edit once I did a search on it. Perhaps another column in the chart is needed for "weigh-in shirt slogans"... :) Dreadstar † 00:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments in my editing. You will note that throughout my extensive editing of the above page, I attempted to discuss all the issues on the talk page, but got little response. I have no wish to engage in an edit war but would prefer to reach a consensus via talk. Martin Hogbin ( talk) 08:44, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments. As I have clearly stated on the article talk page, I have nothing against Tesla but, at present, his claims are presented in a completely different way from all the other contenders. What I am trying to do is to create a level playing field where like claims, presented in a similar strictly factual way, can be compared. I would prefer to continue talking about the subject on the talk page where the views of others can be heard. Martin Hogbin ( talk) 18:04, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
First of all, i don't have a problem with how it is now, you do. It's not trivia instead of deleting it like you are doing why don't you try and put it in with the article.Your WP:TRIVIA doesn't even cover what is in the personal life section so I don't understand your argument.( MgTurtle ( talk) 20:36, 7 August 2008 (UTC))
Did read it.Other articles have the same sections so should we change them all?That's going to be a lot of work.I still don't agree with your argument but i'll change it for people like you.( MgTurtle ( talk) 20:42, 7 August 2008 (UTC)).
I reverted your move. I also saw that listing when searching, but it's not the actual event but probably a replay (of whatever, all the fights or something, on spike). To find the actual event page, look up a fighter fighting on the card and click on the event on their fight record. -- aktsu ( t / c) 22:39, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Jon Fitch being tied for 1st with 8 win streak is a good personal accomplishment, sorry but that was not what this list was made for. It's for people who won some kind of an award in the UFC. I have to revert that back, I have no problem with this being listed under Jon Fitch's personal accomplishment, on his page. EHDI5YS ( talk) 01:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)-- EHDI5YS ( talk) 01:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Fine then uncapitalized them then, I didn't removed Ken Shamrock, I moved Shamrock out of the heavyweight and put him ounder the light heavyweight list. He is & was more active as an LH fighter. You don't see PJ Penn under ww & LW, yet he won the UFC title in both weights. EHDI5YS ( talk) 12:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)-- EHDI5YS ( talk) 12:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for adding the Metal's Darkside link as a citation. However, there are two points that need to be made: First, in this edit, you removed the description of the Lost Art interview citation. Why is this? This suggest that you hit the "Undo" function without first seeing that all the edits needed to be reversed. Obviously, you should check all the edits to make sure they are thus. Second, you re-added information about her sexuality that was previously removed because it was unsourced, and you did this without providing a source. Please do not add such material to articles, as it violates Wikipedia's Verifiability policy. Thanks. Nightscream ( talk) 02:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, please discuss the issue about the UFC 39/41 tournament on Talk:List of UFC champions before editing it further. I have notified others involved with the issue as well, since continued edit warring can result in the full protection of the page from any editing. hateless 02:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
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