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KakaDesi named user is creating a constant Indian vandalism on the page of a Sikh man. Administrator is requested to block this id. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.196.249.226 ( talk) 09:37, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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The article in its current form is missing the details about the death, and the date of death except in the info box. These archives:
show that there was a discussion about the death. The older versions of the article from 2012-08-27T10:33:30, 2012-07-12T15:54:39, and 2010-06-08T22:36:09 contain details about the death and some additional text which could have been potentially lost due to the massive editing or vandalism or both. Could this be fixed by anyone familiar with the subject matter of this article? Kazkaskazkasako ( talk) 21:26, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
I think that the nationality should be left as "Indian" (as Sikhism is listed as the religion - which it is rather than being a nation). I have removed the comment about him being a militant leader as I believe that this is not clearly and reliability shown through referneces in the article. Please do not edit the article until this has been sorted out. Thanks, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 04:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Callnecc: There is a problem with your assertion. Sikh are distinct religious community and political nation. Indians have a problem with it. There constitution doesn't even recognize the independence of Sikh religion. Therefore, they can never accomodate a distinct nation within the union of India. Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale himself said, "he is a Sikh" and Sikhs are a distinct nation. Therefore, it is almost blasphemous to put Indian against his name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.196.249.226 ( talk) 12:01, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Callnecc: Your proposal of putting Indian as citizenship is excellent and should not invite any debate. But the difference between nation, State/ country must be cleared. And nationality means participating member of a nation. Sikhs as such don't have a State but that doesn't mean they are not a nation. Let it be re-iterated here, they are a religious community and a political nation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.196.249.226 ( talk) 06:11, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Sikh is a religion,and this terrorist's nationality was Indian. Ovsek ( talk) 06:20, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
article has inconsistency about his birth surname-- Vigyani ( talk) 06:49, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
" The evidence shows that the Sikhs satisfy these tests. They are more than a religious sect, they are almost a race and almost a nation. As a race, the Sikhs share a common colour, and a common physique based on common ancestors from that part of the Punjab which is centred on Amritsar. They fail to qualify as a separate race because in racial origin prior to the inception of Sikhism they cannot be distinguished from other inhabitants of the Punjab. As a nation the Sikhs defeated the Moghuls, and established a kingdom in the Punjab which they lost as a result of the first and second Sikh wars they fail to qualify as a separate nation or as a separate nationality because their kingdom never achieved a sufficient degree of recognition or permanence. The Sikhs qualify as a group defined by ethnic origins because they consitute a separate and distinct community derived from the racial characteristics I have mentioned." Please see these lines in the last paragraph.
According to the House of Lords, though Sikhs qualify the conditions for Race, Nation and Ehtnicity, yet due to circumstances, they can't be called a race or nation/nationality. And only Ethnicity. I hope this shall settle the issue. All accounts taken ( talk)
The article does not give enough information on his activities as an insurgent. He played a bigger role in the insurgency than what is depicted in the article. 203.191.35.22 ( talk) 13:08, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
this article is not neutral.rather then presenting a neutral POV it is just glorifing him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhirassharma ( talk • contribs) 07:03, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
There needs to be a section for criticism of Bhindranwale. Most of the text in this article is written in a flattering way about him. Even facts that he was a terrorist who terrorized people in and around the temple, brought arms and shed blood inside the temple and then turn it into a fortified fort to fight the army, are depicted in a way that none of that was his fault and he was a righteous. The favorable sentiments sikh community has for him are testament of him being a great leader and orator but the article is not written in a balanced manner. Please do research on criticisms and controversies and add references. — Preceding
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16:19, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
The politics of the Congress (I) was aimed at weakening the Akalis. Zail Singh was the Chief Minister of Punjab during 1972-77. Unlike the previous chief ministers, he came from Ramgaria (artisan) caste and not the majority Jat caste. In order to widen his power base and weaken the Akalis, he encouraged the activities of Bhindranwale and his ultra-orthodox intolerant followers. Akali-Janata coalition was in power during 1978-1980. In order to create a rift in the Akali Dal, a new faction called Dal Khalsa led by Bhindranwale was started with blessings of Zail Singh, Indira Gandhi and Sanjay Gandhi on April 13, 1978. In the year following, some policemen in Punjab went on strike and were dismissed. During the elections of 1980, Zail Singh promised to take them back if Congres (I) returned to power that promise was fulfilled. We can imagine what kind of police force Punjab had.
With his masters Zail Singh (then Union Home Minister) and Indira Gandhi firmly back in power, Bhindranwale openly attacked his opponents – the Nirankaris. Their leader Baba Gurubachan Singh and his aide were shot dead in Delhi on 25th April 1980. The killer, carpenter Ranjit Singh, escaped. All the 20 persons against whom warrants were issued, either belonged to the Jatha of Bhindranwale or were his relatives or associates and were hiding under his protection. Organised political murders were now appearing on the scene. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ponraam ( talk • contribs) 12:12, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
In all sense of the word this man was a terrorist — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.196.186.217 ( talk) 06:07, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
I tried to add an edit summary, but looks like it did not work. I was unsure why the infobox was suddenly changed to "criminal" without explanation or edit summary. -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 08:27, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
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It's critical to understand Sant Bhindranwale's motivations and grievances from his own perspective. As such, I've added his stated grievances that developed early on following an incident at Damdami Taksal. This is a quote taken directly from his speech as well as a quote from a Giani who was interviewed by Doctor Cynthia Mahmood, a pHD in an Anthropology. I have not found evidence that his allegations were disputed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southasianresearcher ( talk • contribs) 19:53, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Added context around Narain's murder and an explanation of why Sant Bhindranwale was accused. Sources cited include perspectives from Mark Tully as well as newspapers.
To understand Sant Bhindranwale's perspective, the incident at Chandon Kalon is significant to him as a Sikh preacher and is an issue he raised frequently during his public addreses considering that copies of the Guru Granth Sahib were reported to have been set on fire by the police. To avoid bias, an account from Mark Tully is also included which outlines the police perspective.
The incident at Mehta Chowk was also important in shaping Sant Bhindranwale's perspective. Like the incident at Chandon Kalon, there are conflicting views of the events that took place. A perspective from both Sant Bhindranwale as well as Mark Tully (which provides the perspective of authorities) was included.
Cited several sources that align on the perspective that the Police at the time were extra-judicially executing alleged criminals. Perspectives from various sources including Mark Tully, SGPC, Sant Bhindranwale's speeches, and an interview with a Hindu priest were included for balance. This is critical in understanding Sant Bhindranwale's transition from preacher to armed militant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southasianresearcher ( talk • contribs) 21:22, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
A tremendous amount of detail was missing that spoke to the events leading up to the decision to fortify the Akal Thakt, as well as the perspectives of both Indian authorities and supports of Sant Bhindranwale held with regard to the justification of both the attack and defense of the complex. The sources cited include Mark Tully, various newspapers and other authors.
Concerning the disputes over military use, it is important to note that there has been justification provided by both critics, supporters, and neutral parties concerning Jarnail Singh's decision to fortify the complex. These perspectives have been stated, if there are additional perspectives they are welcome to be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southasianresearcher ( talk • contribs) 22:19, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Both Sant Bhindranwale's alleged involvement in Hindu-Sikh communalism and his views on Khalistan have conflicting views. The sources cited do not support the statement that Sant Bhindranwale started the Khalistan movement, so this statement needs to be removed. Perspectives from Mark Tully, Ranbir Singh on Bhindranwale's character have been added to provide both perspectives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southasianresearcher ( talk • contribs) 22:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
The article content has recently been removed in an attempt to censor. Kindly read the Wikipedia policy of WP:CENSOR. The article as it stands as of now is reliably sourced to strong and reliable WP:SECONDARY sources. If you do not have Crenshaw Martha book, then you can buy or check in a library. -- DBig Xray 09:58, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Hello To editor Southasianresearcher: It seems you have some problem with this content and you have removed it. The article is sourced to neutral third party and following the WP:NPOV let me know your thoughts on why exactly do you think it needs to be removed. Before making any reply you should also go and read that Wikipedia:NPOV means neutral editors, not neutral content, regards -- DBig Xrayᗙ 11:09, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi To editor DBIGXray:! The neutral point of view policy states: All encyclopedic content on Wikipedia must be written from a neutral point of view (NPOV), which means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic.
As you know, the topic we are both editing can be highly polarizing. However, popular perspectives cannot be completely removed from the page. As such, I am happy to work with you to ensure that we arrive at balanced, neutral content. It may take weeks as I am not a full time editor, but I'm confident we'll get there. Thank you. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southasianresearcher ( talk • contribs)
According to MOS:LEAD the notability of the article should be established in the first few sentences. Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale is notable because of Operation Bluestar, not because of his campaigns against liquor and drugs. Operation Bluestar should be mentioned in the opening paragraph. Ankit2 ( talk) 03:49, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
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hello, I am going to copy your above comments and make subsections, it is easier to reply that way. and please remember to sign at the end of your comment by adding ~~~~ -- DBig Xrayᗙ 11:04, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
he is called martyr is already mentioned in the LEAD. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Pettigrew and Mahmood are partial and biased (towards the Sikh militants) sources this is established in the academia.e.g. [4] Dusenbery [6] Even the quotes that you produced above from the book shows that it is indeed a piece of WP:PUFFERY. Using content from such PUFFERY and clearly biased sources is not allowed since it violates the WP:NPOV policy of Wikipedia. This is strictly followed in case of controversial articles. I have already mentioned this in the section below about these sources. Kindly do not quote these 2 for controversial article or controversial claims. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
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Youtube interviews are not reliable sources but WP:PRIMARY. For controverial articles, PRIMARY sources are not used. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Talk pages are WP:NOTFORUM to discuss the general topic subject or politics. only talk about specific content in the article and improving it. Any comment against the policy of WP:NOTFORUM will be ignored. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
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Wikipedia polices on use of WP:SOCKPUPPETRY and WP:MEATPUPPETRY are rather strict and defaulting editors are immediately blocked. So please follow these policies. DBig Xrayᗙ 08:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
I have linked each of the policy above so that you can familiarize yourself with it. Once you read these pages and have further comments do let me know about it. regards. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
If you have suggestion to remove any line or provide a different version, please make a new subsection below and we can then discuss if that helps the lead. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 13:03, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
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I have tried to read through the above discussion, and couldn't get absolutely any idea of what is being talked about. There aren't any diffs given, and no content has been mentioned specifically. This talk page is meant for discussing content of the article. So, please focus on content. If you need to lecture each other about policies, please use the user talk pages. As far as I can see, this whole discussion can be hatted, because there is really no substance here. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:31, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
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KakaDesi named user is creating a constant Indian vandalism on the page of a Sikh man. Administrator is requested to block this id. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.196.249.226 ( talk) 09:37, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
By locking this page, Wikipedia can protect this page from further vandalism and defamation. The version present now is a more towards neutrality.
Vickle1777 (
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08:07, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
The article in its current form is missing the details about the death, and the date of death except in the info box. These archives:
show that there was a discussion about the death. The older versions of the article from 2012-08-27T10:33:30, 2012-07-12T15:54:39, and 2010-06-08T22:36:09 contain details about the death and some additional text which could have been potentially lost due to the massive editing or vandalism or both. Could this be fixed by anyone familiar with the subject matter of this article? Kazkaskazkasako ( talk) 21:26, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
I think that the nationality should be left as "Indian" (as Sikhism is listed as the religion - which it is rather than being a nation). I have removed the comment about him being a militant leader as I believe that this is not clearly and reliability shown through referneces in the article. Please do not edit the article until this has been sorted out. Thanks, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 04:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Callnecc: There is a problem with your assertion. Sikh are distinct religious community and political nation. Indians have a problem with it. There constitution doesn't even recognize the independence of Sikh religion. Therefore, they can never accomodate a distinct nation within the union of India. Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale himself said, "he is a Sikh" and Sikhs are a distinct nation. Therefore, it is almost blasphemous to put Indian against his name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.196.249.226 ( talk) 12:01, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Callnecc: Your proposal of putting Indian as citizenship is excellent and should not invite any debate. But the difference between nation, State/ country must be cleared. And nationality means participating member of a nation. Sikhs as such don't have a State but that doesn't mean they are not a nation. Let it be re-iterated here, they are a religious community and a political nation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.196.249.226 ( talk) 06:11, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Sikh is a religion,and this terrorist's nationality was Indian. Ovsek ( talk) 06:20, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
article has inconsistency about his birth surname-- Vigyani ( talk) 06:49, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
" The evidence shows that the Sikhs satisfy these tests. They are more than a religious sect, they are almost a race and almost a nation. As a race, the Sikhs share a common colour, and a common physique based on common ancestors from that part of the Punjab which is centred on Amritsar. They fail to qualify as a separate race because in racial origin prior to the inception of Sikhism they cannot be distinguished from other inhabitants of the Punjab. As a nation the Sikhs defeated the Moghuls, and established a kingdom in the Punjab which they lost as a result of the first and second Sikh wars they fail to qualify as a separate nation or as a separate nationality because their kingdom never achieved a sufficient degree of recognition or permanence. The Sikhs qualify as a group defined by ethnic origins because they consitute a separate and distinct community derived from the racial characteristics I have mentioned." Please see these lines in the last paragraph.
According to the House of Lords, though Sikhs qualify the conditions for Race, Nation and Ehtnicity, yet due to circumstances, they can't be called a race or nation/nationality. And only Ethnicity. I hope this shall settle the issue. All accounts taken ( talk)
The article does not give enough information on his activities as an insurgent. He played a bigger role in the insurgency than what is depicted in the article. 203.191.35.22 ( talk) 13:08, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
this article is not neutral.rather then presenting a neutral POV it is just glorifing him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhirassharma ( talk • contribs) 07:03, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
There needs to be a section for criticism of Bhindranwale. Most of the text in this article is written in a flattering way about him. Even facts that he was a terrorist who terrorized people in and around the temple, brought arms and shed blood inside the temple and then turn it into a fortified fort to fight the army, are depicted in a way that none of that was his fault and he was a righteous. The favorable sentiments sikh community has for him are testament of him being a great leader and orator but the article is not written in a balanced manner. Please do research on criticisms and controversies and add references. — Preceding
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71.67.136.169 (
talk)
16:19, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
The politics of the Congress (I) was aimed at weakening the Akalis. Zail Singh was the Chief Minister of Punjab during 1972-77. Unlike the previous chief ministers, he came from Ramgaria (artisan) caste and not the majority Jat caste. In order to widen his power base and weaken the Akalis, he encouraged the activities of Bhindranwale and his ultra-orthodox intolerant followers. Akali-Janata coalition was in power during 1978-1980. In order to create a rift in the Akali Dal, a new faction called Dal Khalsa led by Bhindranwale was started with blessings of Zail Singh, Indira Gandhi and Sanjay Gandhi on April 13, 1978. In the year following, some policemen in Punjab went on strike and were dismissed. During the elections of 1980, Zail Singh promised to take them back if Congres (I) returned to power that promise was fulfilled. We can imagine what kind of police force Punjab had.
With his masters Zail Singh (then Union Home Minister) and Indira Gandhi firmly back in power, Bhindranwale openly attacked his opponents – the Nirankaris. Their leader Baba Gurubachan Singh and his aide were shot dead in Delhi on 25th April 1980. The killer, carpenter Ranjit Singh, escaped. All the 20 persons against whom warrants were issued, either belonged to the Jatha of Bhindranwale or were his relatives or associates and were hiding under his protection. Organised political murders were now appearing on the scene. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ponraam ( talk • contribs) 12:12, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
In all sense of the word this man was a terrorist — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.196.186.217 ( talk) 06:07, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
I tried to add an edit summary, but looks like it did not work. I was unsure why the infobox was suddenly changed to "criminal" without explanation or edit summary. -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 08:27, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
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It's critical to understand Sant Bhindranwale's motivations and grievances from his own perspective. As such, I've added his stated grievances that developed early on following an incident at Damdami Taksal. This is a quote taken directly from his speech as well as a quote from a Giani who was interviewed by Doctor Cynthia Mahmood, a pHD in an Anthropology. I have not found evidence that his allegations were disputed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southasianresearcher ( talk • contribs) 19:53, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Added context around Narain's murder and an explanation of why Sant Bhindranwale was accused. Sources cited include perspectives from Mark Tully as well as newspapers.
To understand Sant Bhindranwale's perspective, the incident at Chandon Kalon is significant to him as a Sikh preacher and is an issue he raised frequently during his public addreses considering that copies of the Guru Granth Sahib were reported to have been set on fire by the police. To avoid bias, an account from Mark Tully is also included which outlines the police perspective.
The incident at Mehta Chowk was also important in shaping Sant Bhindranwale's perspective. Like the incident at Chandon Kalon, there are conflicting views of the events that took place. A perspective from both Sant Bhindranwale as well as Mark Tully (which provides the perspective of authorities) was included.
Cited several sources that align on the perspective that the Police at the time were extra-judicially executing alleged criminals. Perspectives from various sources including Mark Tully, SGPC, Sant Bhindranwale's speeches, and an interview with a Hindu priest were included for balance. This is critical in understanding Sant Bhindranwale's transition from preacher to armed militant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southasianresearcher ( talk • contribs) 21:22, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
A tremendous amount of detail was missing that spoke to the events leading up to the decision to fortify the Akal Thakt, as well as the perspectives of both Indian authorities and supports of Sant Bhindranwale held with regard to the justification of both the attack and defense of the complex. The sources cited include Mark Tully, various newspapers and other authors.
Concerning the disputes over military use, it is important to note that there has been justification provided by both critics, supporters, and neutral parties concerning Jarnail Singh's decision to fortify the complex. These perspectives have been stated, if there are additional perspectives they are welcome to be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southasianresearcher ( talk • contribs) 22:19, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Both Sant Bhindranwale's alleged involvement in Hindu-Sikh communalism and his views on Khalistan have conflicting views. The sources cited do not support the statement that Sant Bhindranwale started the Khalistan movement, so this statement needs to be removed. Perspectives from Mark Tully, Ranbir Singh on Bhindranwale's character have been added to provide both perspectives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southasianresearcher ( talk • contribs) 22:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
The article content has recently been removed in an attempt to censor. Kindly read the Wikipedia policy of WP:CENSOR. The article as it stands as of now is reliably sourced to strong and reliable WP:SECONDARY sources. If you do not have Crenshaw Martha book, then you can buy or check in a library. -- DBig Xray 09:58, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
Hello To editor Southasianresearcher: It seems you have some problem with this content and you have removed it. The article is sourced to neutral third party and following the WP:NPOV let me know your thoughts on why exactly do you think it needs to be removed. Before making any reply you should also go and read that Wikipedia:NPOV means neutral editors, not neutral content, regards -- DBig Xrayᗙ 11:09, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi To editor DBIGXray:! The neutral point of view policy states: All encyclopedic content on Wikipedia must be written from a neutral point of view (NPOV), which means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic.
As you know, the topic we are both editing can be highly polarizing. However, popular perspectives cannot be completely removed from the page. As such, I am happy to work with you to ensure that we arrive at balanced, neutral content. It may take weeks as I am not a full time editor, but I'm confident we'll get there. Thank you. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southasianresearcher ( talk • contribs)
According to MOS:LEAD the notability of the article should be established in the first few sentences. Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale is notable because of Operation Bluestar, not because of his campaigns against liquor and drugs. Operation Bluestar should be mentioned in the opening paragraph. Ankit2 ( talk) 03:49, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
References
hello, I am going to copy your above comments and make subsections, it is easier to reply that way. and please remember to sign at the end of your comment by adding ~~~~ -- DBig Xrayᗙ 11:04, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
he is called martyr is already mentioned in the LEAD. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Pettigrew and Mahmood are partial and biased (towards the Sikh militants) sources this is established in the academia.e.g. [4] Dusenbery [6] Even the quotes that you produced above from the book shows that it is indeed a piece of WP:PUFFERY. Using content from such PUFFERY and clearly biased sources is not allowed since it violates the WP:NPOV policy of Wikipedia. This is strictly followed in case of controversial articles. I have already mentioned this in the section below about these sources. Kindly do not quote these 2 for controversial article or controversial claims. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
References
References
Youtube interviews are not reliable sources but WP:PRIMARY. For controverial articles, PRIMARY sources are not used. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
Talk pages are WP:NOTFORUM to discuss the general topic subject or politics. only talk about specific content in the article and improving it. Any comment against the policy of WP:NOTFORUM will be ignored. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
References
Wikipedia polices on use of WP:SOCKPUPPETRY and WP:MEATPUPPETRY are rather strict and defaulting editors are immediately blocked. So please follow these policies. DBig Xrayᗙ 08:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
I have linked each of the policy above so that you can familiarize yourself with it. Once you read these pages and have further comments do let me know about it. regards. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 08:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
If you have suggestion to remove any line or provide a different version, please make a new subsection below and we can then discuss if that helps the lead. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 13:03, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
References
I have tried to read through the above discussion, and couldn't get absolutely any idea of what is being talked about. There aren't any diffs given, and no content has been mentioned specifically. This talk page is meant for discussing content of the article. So, please focus on content. If you need to lecture each other about policies, please use the user talk pages. As far as I can see, this whole discussion can be hatted, because there is really no substance here. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 13:31, 1 September 2018 (UTC)