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What kind of citations are needed? There is more than enough information though it is in Lithuanian language (mostly). The trial is still on-going, but the factual information was already gathered for it. So there is no possibility for this page to be somehow one-sided or having insufficient claims for those Russian Wiki editors to add this 'insufficient' citations mark. Factual information confirms of soviet soldiers shooting unarmed citizens first and videos can easily confirm it. so it seems like Russian wiki editors are just defending Soviet union. -- 91.233.177.98 ( talk) 13:29, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
On looking at the intro, I see that the author apparently envisages Wikipedia as a sort of the Lithuanian nationalist propaganda machine. Please grow up. Once you start pushing your POV and describing the actions of the central administration towards a region as "aggression", the answer will follow promptly, sometime symmetrical, sometimes not. -- Ghirla | talk 15:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Both of you! Let's talk! Renata 15:42, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that a couple of demonstrations may be termed a revolution. Don't be ridiculous, such a title would only spawn move wars. -- Ghirla | talk 09:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Speaks for itself. Thank you.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 01:11, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Looking at the article, I just cannot say that it is written in a neutral way. It is definitely very biased. I would recommend putting "Neutrality is disputed" banner at the top of the page. In addition, "January events" should be a disambiguation page. There have been awfully lot of events happened on January. This event is not the only one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimacq ( talk • contribs) 1 August 2007
Agree with this report, at least we need to cite some controversies from former Defense Minister of Lithuania A. Butkyavichus:
F.e. you can see controversy it in Russian Wiki: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8E%D1%81%D0%B5_%281991%29#cite_note-9 I don't know who is right here, but there is no good in ignoring that claims:
In the materials of a series of interviews weekly "Obzor" for April-July 2000 [16], former Defense Minister of Lithuania A. Butkyavichus speaks to them and preparing provocations V. Landsbergis, a wider Sajudis, a KGB agent in its ranks.
Here is Russian news where Butkyavichus speaks about this event as a well planned action with predictable results. http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1369522.html
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50.53.48.197 ( talk) 01:04, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
During the following day, meetings of support took place in many cities ( Kiev, Riga, Tallinn). The meeting in Riga was scheduled on 12 January, before attack on TV Tower, to support Latvian governmet, while I haven't learned if the theme of demonstration was or not fully changed, this sentence should be reworded otherwise it implies that this was spontaneous act of support ---- Xil/ talk 19:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
In my view, January 1991 events in Latvia and this article should be merged. They're inextricably linked. -- Pēteris Cedriņš ( talk) 17:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Was the Vilnius TV tower ever occupied during the events? If so, when and by whom? -- Bensin ( talk) 10:18, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
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104.174.104.144 ( talk) 19:18, 14 January 2021 (UTC)The CIA was not associated with Rita Dapkute or Andrew Eiva. The Baltic Times interviewed Rita Dapkute and she clarified that there was no CIA involvement at all. The Soviet Union is also known for spreading propaganda and it would make sense because they didn't want to make seem like they were beat by the citizens of a small country> 104.174.104.144 ( talk) 19:18, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
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In the infobox it says that there were some Soviet losses, but there are no sources to them, so shouldn’t be the Soviet losses change to none? And also, this could be biased but, no Lithuanian source or documentation cites that there was a Soviet loss. AdmiralDoorKnob ( talk) 11:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
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What kind of citations are needed? There is more than enough information though it is in Lithuanian language (mostly). The trial is still on-going, but the factual information was already gathered for it. So there is no possibility for this page to be somehow one-sided or having insufficient claims for those Russian Wiki editors to add this 'insufficient' citations mark. Factual information confirms of soviet soldiers shooting unarmed citizens first and videos can easily confirm it. so it seems like Russian wiki editors are just defending Soviet union. -- 91.233.177.98 ( talk) 13:29, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
On looking at the intro, I see that the author apparently envisages Wikipedia as a sort of the Lithuanian nationalist propaganda machine. Please grow up. Once you start pushing your POV and describing the actions of the central administration towards a region as "aggression", the answer will follow promptly, sometime symmetrical, sometimes not. -- Ghirla | talk 15:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Both of you! Let's talk! Renata 15:42, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that a couple of demonstrations may be termed a revolution. Don't be ridiculous, such a title would only spawn move wars. -- Ghirla | talk 09:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Speaks for itself. Thank you.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 01:11, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Looking at the article, I just cannot say that it is written in a neutral way. It is definitely very biased. I would recommend putting "Neutrality is disputed" banner at the top of the page. In addition, "January events" should be a disambiguation page. There have been awfully lot of events happened on January. This event is not the only one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimacq ( talk • contribs) 1 August 2007
Agree with this report, at least we need to cite some controversies from former Defense Minister of Lithuania A. Butkyavichus:
F.e. you can see controversy it in Russian Wiki: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B2_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8E%D1%81%D0%B5_%281991%29#cite_note-9 I don't know who is right here, but there is no good in ignoring that claims:
In the materials of a series of interviews weekly "Obzor" for April-July 2000 [16], former Defense Minister of Lithuania A. Butkyavichus speaks to them and preparing provocations V. Landsbergis, a wider Sajudis, a KGB agent in its ranks.
Here is Russian news where Butkyavichus speaks about this event as a well planned action with predictable results. http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1369522.html
Using translate.google.com
50.53.48.197 ( talk) 01:04, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
During the following day, meetings of support took place in many cities ( Kiev, Riga, Tallinn). The meeting in Riga was scheduled on 12 January, before attack on TV Tower, to support Latvian governmet, while I haven't learned if the theme of demonstration was or not fully changed, this sentence should be reworded otherwise it implies that this was spontaneous act of support ---- Xil/ talk 19:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
In my view, January 1991 events in Latvia and this article should be merged. They're inextricably linked. -- Pēteris Cedriņš ( talk) 17:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Was the Vilnius TV tower ever occupied during the events? If so, when and by whom? -- Bensin ( talk) 10:18, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
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104.174.104.144 ( talk) 19:18, 14 January 2021 (UTC)The CIA was not associated with Rita Dapkute or Andrew Eiva. The Baltic Times interviewed Rita Dapkute and she clarified that there was no CIA involvement at all. The Soviet Union is also known for spreading propaganda and it would make sense because they didn't want to make seem like they were beat by the citizens of a small country> 104.174.104.144 ( talk) 19:18, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. There is no consensus that this topic is WP:PRIMARY for "January Events", so it should stay at the disambiguated location. ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 05:33, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
January Events (Lithuania) → January Events – Originally at January Events, moved to January Events (Lithuania) in 2009 to distinguish from January 1991 events in Latvia. That distinction is unnecessary now as the latter article has been moved to The Barricades. This should be moved back to the plain title. JIP | Talk 09:59, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
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In the infobox it says that there were some Soviet losses, but there are no sources to them, so shouldn’t be the Soviet losses change to none? And also, this could be biased but, no Lithuanian source or documentation cites that there was a Soviet loss. AdmiralDoorKnob ( talk) 11:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)