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I am not going to formally propose that this article be merged into Aftermath of the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol#Notable arrests and charges at this time. I don't think that would be appropriate so soon after the recent AfD was closed as a "weak keep". That said, he is covered it that sub-article at length (and more sparingly in the main article) which makes me question whether this stand alone article is necessary. I don't think that was really considered in depth in the AfD. In any event, I think it would be wise for us to look at this again in the coming months, or year. I tend to think that AfD was decided far WP:TOOSOON and without real consideration of whether he would pass the WP:TENYEARTEST. It may be wise for us to reconsider some point in the future when the main and sub-articles have progressed further, and when more has happened with the pending trials and investigations.-- Darryl Kerrigan ( talk) 00:26, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Many books will be written about the 2021 storming of the U.S. Capitol. Many PhD theses as well. The vast majority will devote significant coverage to Jake Angeli. He's notable. This article and its curated references will be an exceptionally useful resource to those authors and academics. Removing or redirecting or suppressing this article would be as bizarre as Angeli is widely perceived to be. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 08:00, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
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Jake Angeli is listed as an "American Activist" and I suggest that be edited to "American Insurrectionist". I base this change on the fact that he was convicted of being a member of the treasonous group that attacked the American Capitol on January 6, 2021. Leaving him labeled as an "Activist" could cause others to be inspired to do similar acts. Source Link: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/arizona-man-sentenced-41-months-prison-felony-charge-jan-6-capitol-breach 184.90.232.74 ( talk) 20:29, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
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HE is an American TERRORIST, please correct this . — Preceding
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The inmate locator (BOP register # 24866-509) shows him currently at FCI Safford, could this be added to the article? 108.4.243.218 ( talk) 15:56, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
The latest episode of Family Guy made a visual reference to this individual. I'm not clear if it should warrant a reference in the popular culture section or not, but passing it along. Surv1v4l1st ╠ Talk║ Contribs╣ 04:22, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
Back in January, I supported the Jake Angeli title because that seemed to be what most reliable sources called him. In recent months, it seems thst most reliable sources call him by his short legal name of Jacob Chansley. I have now concluded that the article should be moved to Jacob Chansley. Feedback welcomed. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:44, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
The wiki article is missing information to humanize him, including that he’s a stay at home dad, or any information about his personal situation. Thoreaulylazy ( talk) 03:18, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
How would he have a Dec 6 2023 release date from a 41-month prison sentence (= 3 years and 5 months)? Counting from Jan 21 3 years and 5 months later should be June 24. Dec 23 would be short before 3 years. -- Blobstar ( talk) 11:39, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
New math…lol The release date must have factored in by working time off, or information given. Easeltine ( talk) 14:31, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Now it's even shortened to July 23. Where does that come from? -- Blobstar ( talk) 14:10, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
His Early Life sections seems to be missing a lot of information, like where he was born and who his father was, also family background. Leasnam ( talk) 04:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Some sources to make the page:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/03/08/tucker_carlson_capitol_police_escorted_qanon_shaman_around_jan_6_committee_withheld_footage_from_attorneys.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.75.106 ( talk) 07:03, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/07/jake-angeli-qanon-shaman-arizona-heart-capitol-riots/
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2096968/qanon-shaman-jake-angeli-capitol/
https://www.thefocus.news/business/jake-angeli/
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/arizona-environment/2019/09/20/climate-change-march-downtown-phoenix-global-youth-climate-strike/2357094001/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.237.30 ( talk) 00:09, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
-- Topjur01 ( talk) 14:23, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
I thought this might be useful for the article. Includes commentary from Fox News. It shows multiple police officers and multiple locations allowing him into different rooms.
What do others here think about including this in the article?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4qajVw5rGk
SquirrelHill1971 ( talk) 02:56, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Anyway, after watching this, I don't think this wikipedia article does a very good job of explaining what this guy did to justify his multi-year prison sentence. I think the article needs to take this footage into account, and reexplain why he was sentenced to so long in prison.
SquirrelHill1971 ( talk) 04:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
No article will contain any purported findings from selectively edited videos presented by Tucker Carlson unless they are fully corroborated by reliable sources. soibangla ( talk) 04:51, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
This footage showing that the Police were his friends in this story of January 6th should be included in the article. It actually seems to indicate that Jake Angeli wanted to be thought of as a Martyr, to which the Justice System, and the Left-Wing Media sources, accommadated him by giving a longer Sentence than his activity deserved. Easeltine ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:17, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments everyone. The content that is in the article is reliably sourced, so he really did do what it says he did. I now realize that this newly released footage does not negate any of that. Still, it is interesting to see him getting along with the police. I won't be adding this to the article, but thanks for your comments everyone. SquirrelHill1971 ( talk) 00:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
(The following is not just about Jake, but about basic principles.) Not all intruders were violent, yet they still broke the law by entering the Capitol in that situation. We forget that just because a person may lead an otherwise peaceful life, they still get punished for that one time they break the law. It is therefore not improper for the media to focus on that one event. People who seek fame and notoriety, as Jake did, get noticed more and have more influence. This just adds to the coverage and the poor effect of their influence. Now Jake is paying the price and will be released in four months. -- Valjean ( talk) ( PING me) 15:57, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Comment Would adding this be warranted? Any reformulations or alternatives are welcome:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooonswimmer ( talk • contribs) 22:15, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
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Correct your information people. Watch the new video footage that has been released 2602:4C:612:7D00:1488:3CC9:2D9C:B093 ( talk) 16:37, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. clear consensus to move ( closed by non-admin page mover) Elli ( talk | contribs) 10:08, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Jake Angeli → Jacob Chansley – WP:UCN. The so-called QAnon Shaman has been referred to as "Jacob Chansley" in court documents. Most press coverage since 2022 has referred to him as "Jacob Chansley". The Hill Reuters NBC News Schierbecker ( talk) 17:12, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
Article shows he is out of custody, but Bureau of Prisons records state Chansley's current location as RRM Phoenix, a federal residential reentry facility operated by the BOP with release date of May 25, 2023. The article cited cites the mother who may know understand the difference that he is still in federal custody since he is technically 'not in prison.' I think his status should be changed to In Custody, RRM Phoenix. His expected release date from custody is still May 25, 2023. Additional cites: cite 1 cite 2 Cite 3. Since this article has several maintaining editors, I'll just drop this here and let you all decide how to proceed. Cheers. P37307 ( talk) 21:17, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
"On November 17, Chansley was sentenced to 41 months in prison. He served his sentence at Federal Correctional Institution - Safford in Safford, Arizona, with an original release date of May 25, 2023. On March 30, 2023, attorney Albert Watkins announced Chansley had just been released from prison 14 months early and moved to a halfway house." This statement seems inaccurate to me, as it states Chansley was released from prison 14 months early, yet it lists the original release date as May 25, 2023, and his release date as March 30, 2023. That totals to less than two months, not the 14 months mentioned. Is there information here that may be missing? Or is this a typographical error? Thanks. Xanderson 08:12, 29 May 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xanderson ( talk • contribs)
The 41 months count from Jan 21, including the time he was already in custody before the sentence from Nov 21. A release in Mar 23 makes 27 months from Jan 21, which is 14 earlier than 41. -- Blobstar ( talk) 09:27, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
He is now selling yoga leggings as "America's Shaman". [1] That should probably go in the article. Also the mention of "original release date" of May 25 2023 doesn't sound like it can be right, since the original sentence was 41 months starting no earlier than November 2021. 2601:644:8501:CF70:0:0:0:7260 ( talk) 11:51, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 |
This section is pinned and will not be automatically archived. |
I am not going to formally propose that this article be merged into Aftermath of the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol#Notable arrests and charges at this time. I don't think that would be appropriate so soon after the recent AfD was closed as a "weak keep". That said, he is covered it that sub-article at length (and more sparingly in the main article) which makes me question whether this stand alone article is necessary. I don't think that was really considered in depth in the AfD. In any event, I think it would be wise for us to look at this again in the coming months, or year. I tend to think that AfD was decided far WP:TOOSOON and without real consideration of whether he would pass the WP:TENYEARTEST. It may be wise for us to reconsider some point in the future when the main and sub-articles have progressed further, and when more has happened with the pending trials and investigations.-- Darryl Kerrigan ( talk) 00:26, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Many books will be written about the 2021 storming of the U.S. Capitol. Many PhD theses as well. The vast majority will devote significant coverage to Jake Angeli. He's notable. This article and its curated references will be an exceptionally useful resource to those authors and academics. Removing or redirecting or suppressing this article would be as bizarre as Angeli is widely perceived to be. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 08:00, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
Jake Angeli has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Jake Angeli is listed as an "American Activist" and I suggest that be edited to "American Insurrectionist". I base this change on the fact that he was convicted of being a member of the treasonous group that attacked the American Capitol on January 6, 2021. Leaving him labeled as an "Activist" could cause others to be inspired to do similar acts. Source Link: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/arizona-man-sentenced-41-months-prison-felony-charge-jan-6-capitol-breach 184.90.232.74 ( talk) 20:29, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
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Melmann
20:50, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
HE is an American TERRORIST, please correct this . — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
206.55.176.27 (
talk)
03:08, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
The inmate locator (BOP register # 24866-509) shows him currently at FCI Safford, could this be added to the article? 108.4.243.218 ( talk) 15:56, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
The latest episode of Family Guy made a visual reference to this individual. I'm not clear if it should warrant a reference in the popular culture section or not, but passing it along. Surv1v4l1st ╠ Talk║ Contribs╣ 04:22, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
Back in January, I supported the Jake Angeli title because that seemed to be what most reliable sources called him. In recent months, it seems thst most reliable sources call him by his short legal name of Jacob Chansley. I have now concluded that the article should be moved to Jacob Chansley. Feedback welcomed. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:44, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
The wiki article is missing information to humanize him, including that he’s a stay at home dad, or any information about his personal situation. Thoreaulylazy ( talk) 03:18, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
How would he have a Dec 6 2023 release date from a 41-month prison sentence (= 3 years and 5 months)? Counting from Jan 21 3 years and 5 months later should be June 24. Dec 23 would be short before 3 years. -- Blobstar ( talk) 11:39, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
New math…lol The release date must have factored in by working time off, or information given. Easeltine ( talk) 14:31, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Now it's even shortened to July 23. Where does that come from? -- Blobstar ( talk) 14:10, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
His Early Life sections seems to be missing a lot of information, like where he was born and who his father was, also family background. Leasnam ( talk) 04:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Some sources to make the page:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/03/08/tucker_carlson_capitol_police_escorted_qanon_shaman_around_jan_6_committee_withheld_footage_from_attorneys.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.75.106 ( talk) 07:03, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/07/jake-angeli-qanon-shaman-arizona-heart-capitol-riots/
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2096968/qanon-shaman-jake-angeli-capitol/
https://www.thefocus.news/business/jake-angeli/
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/arizona-environment/2019/09/20/climate-change-march-downtown-phoenix-global-youth-climate-strike/2357094001/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.237.30 ( talk) 00:09, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
-- Topjur01 ( talk) 14:23, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
I thought this might be useful for the article. Includes commentary from Fox News. It shows multiple police officers and multiple locations allowing him into different rooms.
What do others here think about including this in the article?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4qajVw5rGk
SquirrelHill1971 ( talk) 02:56, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Anyway, after watching this, I don't think this wikipedia article does a very good job of explaining what this guy did to justify his multi-year prison sentence. I think the article needs to take this footage into account, and reexplain why he was sentenced to so long in prison.
SquirrelHill1971 ( talk) 04:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
No article will contain any purported findings from selectively edited videos presented by Tucker Carlson unless they are fully corroborated by reliable sources. soibangla ( talk) 04:51, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
This footage showing that the Police were his friends in this story of January 6th should be included in the article. It actually seems to indicate that Jake Angeli wanted to be thought of as a Martyr, to which the Justice System, and the Left-Wing Media sources, accommadated him by giving a longer Sentence than his activity deserved. Easeltine ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:17, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments everyone. The content that is in the article is reliably sourced, so he really did do what it says he did. I now realize that this newly released footage does not negate any of that. Still, it is interesting to see him getting along with the police. I won't be adding this to the article, but thanks for your comments everyone. SquirrelHill1971 ( talk) 00:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
(The following is not just about Jake, but about basic principles.) Not all intruders were violent, yet they still broke the law by entering the Capitol in that situation. We forget that just because a person may lead an otherwise peaceful life, they still get punished for that one time they break the law. It is therefore not improper for the media to focus on that one event. People who seek fame and notoriety, as Jake did, get noticed more and have more influence. This just adds to the coverage and the poor effect of their influence. Now Jake is paying the price and will be released in four months. -- Valjean ( talk) ( PING me) 15:57, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Comment Would adding this be warranted? Any reformulations or alternatives are welcome:
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooonswimmer ( talk • contribs) 22:15, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
References
{{
cite web}}
: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (
link)
Correct your information people. Watch the new video footage that has been released 2602:4C:612:7D00:1488:3CC9:2D9C:B093 ( talk) 16:37, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. clear consensus to move ( closed by non-admin page mover) Elli ( talk | contribs) 10:08, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
Jake Angeli → Jacob Chansley – WP:UCN. The so-called QAnon Shaman has been referred to as "Jacob Chansley" in court documents. Most press coverage since 2022 has referred to him as "Jacob Chansley". The Hill Reuters NBC News Schierbecker ( talk) 17:12, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
Article shows he is out of custody, but Bureau of Prisons records state Chansley's current location as RRM Phoenix, a federal residential reentry facility operated by the BOP with release date of May 25, 2023. The article cited cites the mother who may know understand the difference that he is still in federal custody since he is technically 'not in prison.' I think his status should be changed to In Custody, RRM Phoenix. His expected release date from custody is still May 25, 2023. Additional cites: cite 1 cite 2 Cite 3. Since this article has several maintaining editors, I'll just drop this here and let you all decide how to proceed. Cheers. P37307 ( talk) 21:17, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
"On November 17, Chansley was sentenced to 41 months in prison. He served his sentence at Federal Correctional Institution - Safford in Safford, Arizona, with an original release date of May 25, 2023. On March 30, 2023, attorney Albert Watkins announced Chansley had just been released from prison 14 months early and moved to a halfway house." This statement seems inaccurate to me, as it states Chansley was released from prison 14 months early, yet it lists the original release date as May 25, 2023, and his release date as March 30, 2023. That totals to less than two months, not the 14 months mentioned. Is there information here that may be missing? Or is this a typographical error? Thanks. Xanderson 08:12, 29 May 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xanderson ( talk • contribs)
The 41 months count from Jan 21, including the time he was already in custody before the sentence from Nov 21. A release in Mar 23 makes 27 months from Jan 21, which is 14 earlier than 41. -- Blobstar ( talk) 09:27, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
He is now selling yoga leggings as "America's Shaman". [1] That should probably go in the article. Also the mention of "original release date" of May 25 2023 doesn't sound like it can be right, since the original sentence was 41 months starting no earlier than November 2021. 2601:644:8501:CF70:0:0:0:7260 ( talk) 11:51, 3 June 2023 (UTC)