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A fact from Jacklyn (ship) appeared on Wikipedia's
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The ship was launched in 2004 as SEA CHIEFTAIN. [1] (click on "Ex-Names History"). Rowan Forest ( talk) 02:09, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Flag: DK Last Reported: 2018-11-06 04:53:00
Flag: DK Last Reported: 2018-11-06 04:53:00
Flag: DK Last Reported: 2018-07-06 06:25:00
Flag: GB Last Reported: 2013-10-11 20:33:00
Flag: GB Last Reported: 2012-08-03 05:25:00
Last Reported: 2011-04-22 09:18:00
Last Reported: 2004-03-01
This is a new article, so who knows how everything will settle out. But I felt the existing lede—which includes this bit: "... purchased in 2018 for use as a landing platform ship for its New Glenn launch vehicle booster stages. As of late 2018, the ship is undergoing refit to prepare for its role of landing rockets." — was lacking context for the global reader.
So in order to add to the article lead how the ship would be used, and why this type of moving ( underway) ship had been selected, and when the rocket-landing-on-ship thing might first occur, I added this paragraph to the lede:
The first stage boosters of New Glenn are intended to be reusable, and will be recovered downrange in the Atlantic Ocean via LPV while the hydrodynamically-stabilized ship is underway. The stabilization technology is designed to increase the likelihood of successful rocket recovery in rough seas. [1] [2] Blue Origin is planning to make the first orbital launch New Glenn no earlier than 2021. [3]
Huntster Reverted that Bold addition. So let's do a bit of a WP:BRD and Discuss it here. PROPOSAL: Add a second paragraph to the lead that answers the how / why / when question, right in the article summary, at the top of the article.
References
nsf20180920
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).tc20170307
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).With the original reverter commenting that a second paragraph could be added to the lead to directly discuss the ship in a meaningful way, and strong support for answering additional when/how/why questions in the lead summary from other editors, I've gone ahead and updated the lede to reflect more about the operational plans for the ship. N2e ( talk) 04:00, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
So what went wrong? Para 2 of the Lead is now longer than the three lines that it is supposed to be summarising! Davidships ( talk) 14:57, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
This article has been nominated for the Did you know ...? section of the Wikipedia Main Page. It does seem a somewhat unusual and therefore interesting ship application, so thought others might find it of interest. Others feel free to make the nomination better, add new/better/alternative hook suggestions, etc. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 15:34, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
A citizen journalist has posted aerial footage of what the Blue LPV looks like as of late June 2019, along with a description.
Funnels are chopped and the deck is flat on the @blueorigin recovery ship being modified in Pensacola! The loading ramp on the stern has also been shortened flush with the deck.
Here is the link.
And here are two comparison photos of the ship, both in the refit yard at Pensacola: November 2018 / June 2019. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 12:22, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
This URL has four photos of the ship, riding high in the water, taken this week. Not a lot of visible progress since the mid-year photos. N2e ( talk) 03:27, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move b uidh e 05:35, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Blue Origin landing platform ship →
Blue Origin Landing Platform Vessel – It is called LPV (acronym of "Landing Platform Vessel).
Soumyabrata (
talk •
subpages) 06:49, 8 March 2020 (UTC)—Relisting.
Jerm (
talk) 01:44, 15 March 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. —
Amakuru (
talk) 08:50, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
It was proposed in this section that
Blue Origin landing platform ship be
renamed and moved to
Landing Platform Vessel.
The discussion has been closed, and the result will be found in the closer's comment. Links:
current log •
target log
This is template {{
subst:Requested move/end}} |
The result of the move request was: withdrawn. Consensus is emerged to use WP:COMMONNAME. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:45, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Blue Origin landing platform ship → Landing Platform Vessel – LPV is the current name of the ship. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 10:09, 14 June 2020 (UTC) —Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth ed. put'r there 10:47, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Someone drove by the ship in the dock where it is being refit, and totally reshaped, and they posted this photograph this week: photo link.
If you follow the additional link at the first link, you'll see this photographer has posted a gallery of photos of the ship. Perhaps someone might contact the photographer to see if they might agree to creative commons license one of the photos, so it might be used in the Wikipedia. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 03:03, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved ( non-admin closure) ~ Amkgp 💬 14:27, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Blue Origin landing platform ship → Blue Origin landing platform – The current title is too WP:PRECISE since New Glenn is planned to land on a ship, NOT on land à la Falcon 9. The proposed title is more WP:CONCISE and WP:RECOGNIZABLE. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:13, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
As of late December 2020, some reports have Jeff Bezos renaming the ship from LPV. Looking for a reliable source to update the article. Here is a tweet about it by photographer Kyle Montgomery, with a good photo of the ship being refit in Pensacola as of August 2020: " Jeff Bezos announced Blue Origin's ship previously know as the LPV is going to be renamed to Jacklyn after his mother. Here is a photo from when I visited it back in August. #BlueOrigin #LPV #BlueJacklyn"
This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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A fact from Jacklyn (ship) appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the
Did you know column on 18 December 2018 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
|
The ship was launched in 2004 as SEA CHIEFTAIN. [1] (click on "Ex-Names History"). Rowan Forest ( talk) 02:09, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Flag: DK Last Reported: 2018-11-06 04:53:00
Flag: DK Last Reported: 2018-11-06 04:53:00
Flag: DK Last Reported: 2018-07-06 06:25:00
Flag: GB Last Reported: 2013-10-11 20:33:00
Flag: GB Last Reported: 2012-08-03 05:25:00
Last Reported: 2011-04-22 09:18:00
Last Reported: 2004-03-01
This is a new article, so who knows how everything will settle out. But I felt the existing lede—which includes this bit: "... purchased in 2018 for use as a landing platform ship for its New Glenn launch vehicle booster stages. As of late 2018, the ship is undergoing refit to prepare for its role of landing rockets." — was lacking context for the global reader.
So in order to add to the article lead how the ship would be used, and why this type of moving ( underway) ship had been selected, and when the rocket-landing-on-ship thing might first occur, I added this paragraph to the lede:
The first stage boosters of New Glenn are intended to be reusable, and will be recovered downrange in the Atlantic Ocean via LPV while the hydrodynamically-stabilized ship is underway. The stabilization technology is designed to increase the likelihood of successful rocket recovery in rough seas. [1] [2] Blue Origin is planning to make the first orbital launch New Glenn no earlier than 2021. [3]
Huntster Reverted that Bold addition. So let's do a bit of a WP:BRD and Discuss it here. PROPOSAL: Add a second paragraph to the lead that answers the how / why / when question, right in the article summary, at the top of the article.
References
nsf20180920
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).tc20170307
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).With the original reverter commenting that a second paragraph could be added to the lead to directly discuss the ship in a meaningful way, and strong support for answering additional when/how/why questions in the lead summary from other editors, I've gone ahead and updated the lede to reflect more about the operational plans for the ship. N2e ( talk) 04:00, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
So what went wrong? Para 2 of the Lead is now longer than the three lines that it is supposed to be summarising! Davidships ( talk) 14:57, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
This article has been nominated for the Did you know ...? section of the Wikipedia Main Page. It does seem a somewhat unusual and therefore interesting ship application, so thought others might find it of interest. Others feel free to make the nomination better, add new/better/alternative hook suggestions, etc. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 15:34, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
A citizen journalist has posted aerial footage of what the Blue LPV looks like as of late June 2019, along with a description.
Funnels are chopped and the deck is flat on the @blueorigin recovery ship being modified in Pensacola! The loading ramp on the stern has also been shortened flush with the deck.
Here is the link.
And here are two comparison photos of the ship, both in the refit yard at Pensacola: November 2018 / June 2019. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 12:22, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
This URL has four photos of the ship, riding high in the water, taken this week. Not a lot of visible progress since the mid-year photos. N2e ( talk) 03:27, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move b uidh e 05:35, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Blue Origin landing platform ship →
Blue Origin Landing Platform Vessel – It is called LPV (acronym of "Landing Platform Vessel).
Soumyabrata (
talk •
subpages) 06:49, 8 March 2020 (UTC)—Relisting.
Jerm (
talk) 01:44, 15 March 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. —
Amakuru (
talk) 08:50, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
It was proposed in this section that
Blue Origin landing platform ship be
renamed and moved to
Landing Platform Vessel.
The discussion has been closed, and the result will be found in the closer's comment. Links:
current log •
target log
This is template {{
subst:Requested move/end}} |
The result of the move request was: withdrawn. Consensus is emerged to use WP:COMMONNAME. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:45, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Blue Origin landing platform ship → Landing Platform Vessel – LPV is the current name of the ship. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 10:09, 14 June 2020 (UTC) —Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth ed. put'r there 10:47, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Someone drove by the ship in the dock where it is being refit, and totally reshaped, and they posted this photograph this week: photo link.
If you follow the additional link at the first link, you'll see this photographer has posted a gallery of photos of the ship. Perhaps someone might contact the photographer to see if they might agree to creative commons license one of the photos, so it might be used in the Wikipedia. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 03:03, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved ( non-admin closure) ~ Amkgp 💬 14:27, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Blue Origin landing platform ship → Blue Origin landing platform – The current title is too WP:PRECISE since New Glenn is planned to land on a ship, NOT on land à la Falcon 9. The proposed title is more WP:CONCISE and WP:RECOGNIZABLE. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:13, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
As of late December 2020, some reports have Jeff Bezos renaming the ship from LPV. Looking for a reliable source to update the article. Here is a tweet about it by photographer Kyle Montgomery, with a good photo of the ship being refit in Pensacola as of August 2020: " Jeff Bezos announced Blue Origin's ship previously know as the LPV is going to be renamed to Jacklyn after his mother. Here is a photo from when I visited it back in August. #BlueOrigin #LPV #BlueJacklyn"