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"At the time of the partition of Ireland most of the island was Roman Catholic and largely indigenous, while a sizeable portion of the country, particularly in the north, was Protestant and chiefly descended from people from Great Britain who colonised the land as settlers during the reign of King James I in 1609."
There is no way that this is neutral, and even less of a chance that it's accurate. What do you suppose an "indigenous" Irishman was in the year 1921?
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First claim - "most of the island was Roman Catholic".
This is very obviously true any Irish schoolchild could tell you that. The last census prior to 1921 was taken in 1911 and using the search on the
census site you can see that 3,188,422 people identified as Roman Catholic which is 72% of those included in the census.
Second claim - "largely indigenous"
I would take this to mean ethnically Irish and in the context whose family tree predates the settlers of 1609. The way you state your question it sounds like you don't believe the country was inhabited for very long so I figure you might want to read the page on
Prehistoric Ireland. I don't think this part of the claim is easily answerable with the census data available but I struggle to imagine a world where it's untrue. For it to be untrue Ireland would have had to have a major period of immigration between 1609 and 1921 however
notoriously the opposite is the case.
If you think there's a POV issue perhaps you could be clearer about it is you're seeing.
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"At the time of the partition of Ireland most of the island was Roman Catholic and largely indigenous, while a sizeable portion of the country, particularly in the north, was Protestant and chiefly descended from people from Great Britain who colonised the land as settlers during the reign of King James I in 1609."
There is no way that this is neutral, and even less of a chance that it's accurate. What do you suppose an "indigenous" Irishman was in the year 1921?
Jonathan f1 (
talk) 02:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)reply
First claim - "most of the island was Roman Catholic".
This is very obviously true any Irish schoolchild could tell you that. The last census prior to 1921 was taken in 1911 and using the search on the
census site you can see that 3,188,422 people identified as Roman Catholic which is 72% of those included in the census.
Second claim - "largely indigenous"
I would take this to mean ethnically Irish and in the context whose family tree predates the settlers of 1609. The way you state your question it sounds like you don't believe the country was inhabited for very long so I figure you might want to read the page on
Prehistoric Ireland. I don't think this part of the claim is easily answerable with the census data available but I struggle to imagine a world where it's untrue. For it to be untrue Ireland would have had to have a major period of immigration between 1609 and 1921 however
notoriously the opposite is the case.
If you think there's a POV issue perhaps you could be clearer about it is you're seeing.
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talk) 22:49, 20 May 2024 (UTC)reply
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