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Can someone track down the exact dates of the 1979 and 1987 Ames Straw Polls and then add those dates, giving an appropriate citation, in the article? This information seems to be unfortunately lacking on the World Wide Web, but it should be readily available in newspaper archives. — Lowellian ( reply) 07:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
In the section titled "Significance," the article makes some claims of general trends in the poll which I think are unfounded, given that the poll has only happened 4 times (soon to be 5). Ex: "in the history of the Ames Straw Poll, except in 1987, the winner (or in case of the tie in 1995, one of the winners) of the Ames Straw Poll has gone on to win the Iowa Caucus." 3 matches out of 4 (and one of those not even a clear victory) could very easily be chance. Perhaps, in reality, it only correctly predicts about 50% of the time, but due to chance we happened to get 3 out of 4 instead of 2 out of 4. There's really no way to know, and I think it's simply too early to draw out patterns, even after the upcoming poll (notwishstanding that it's a pastime of American politics to scrutinize every single datum to within an inch of its life).
Likewise with the first sentence of that same paragraph, "Only about half of the winners of the Ames Straw Poll have gone on to win the Republican presidential nomination." Well, right now it's 2 out of 4, which is exactly half. "About half," I feel, makes it sound like we've got a larger data set, with higher precision, than we do.
Just some thoughts.
Munion 19:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
It is unclear how the actual voting takes place... The article mentions the ones that already voted have their hands stamped, but how did they vote? By raising hands? Wikiak 00:33, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Why is the title of this article "Ames Straw Poll" instead of "Iowa Straw Poll?" The Iowa Republican Party (who runs the poll), refers to it as the "Iowa Straw Poll" on their website, the logo for this year's poll also refers to it as the "Iowa Straw Poll," and pretty much every media story I've seen about it this year refers to it as the "Iowa Straw Poll." Yes, it does take place in Ames, but that is not the name that it seems to have been given. Etphonehome 22:15, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
The Republican Party of Iowa, i.e. the organizer and beneficiary of this fundraising event, only refers to this event at The Iowa Straw Poll. It happens that it has always taken place in Ames, however it has also been a competitive bid process. For 2015, Ames is one of four finalists and according to political watchers, Ames is unlikely to retain this event. If and when an announcement is made moving this event outside of Ames, this page must reflect the reality that the event is the Iowa Straw Poll and not the Ames Straw Poll. http://www.iowagop.org/2015/02/13/four-venues-submit-straw-poll-bids/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by IARepublican ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Limiting information to only what is broadcast by entertainment networks is no way to run a current events encyclopedia. There must be some leniency for inclusion of amature primary accounts until scholarly investigation of the subject is completed. This policy just leads to sockpuppeting... Until that realization is made this discussion section will have to suffice. Below is a personal eye witness account of the event. For other wikipedians in attendence please verify my observations and add your own. (Here, not to the article as that is against current policy) Hopefully a reputable source will publish an article for citation.
It was advertised that Iowa State students could show a student ID to vote. However, those in possession of an out of state drivers licence and no voter registration card on them were turned away. Also, the polling center required voters to mark their thumb with an iodine based ink. This had the effect of marking every ballot with a thumbprint unless voters took to the non-ergonomic method of feeding their ballot into the machine without use of an possible digit.
Also, for voters on buses paid for by a candidate they had no unobstructed view of the tents of candidates Tommy Thompson and Ron Paul, as they were placed on the other side of the complex from the bus parking area.
In addition Romney supporters were allowed to fill the floor during his speech, while supporters of Ron Paul were limited to 150 supporters while hundreds more without gold wrist bands were forced to stay out of the area immediately in front of the podium. GrEp 03:31, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
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Partial results are at http://www.mikeswashingtonwatch.com/archives/2007/09/the_ames_straw_poll.shtml Someone with semi-protected access can update the main page (I don't have access or the time to bother). 77.20.56.60 ( talk) 07:55, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Has anyone heard the results of Colbert Super PAC's satirical push for "Rick Parry" with an A? SwimFellow ( talk) 23:24, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
The group that runs the straw poll is not releasing the write-ins by spelling. As it is, Colbert's shtick might be worthy of a one sentence mention, but I don't think it really merits it, because there is no way of knowing how much of Perry's vote total came from actual Perry supporters and how much came from Colbert supporters. Furthermore, it really doesn't matter. – Muboshgu ( talk) 17:11, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
The total for the 2011 isn't the sum of all the above numbers. It is off by 56. I'm guessing this is votes that didn't get counted for whatever reason, but the total for all the other years is correct, so I'm wondering if you need to add in a box with "missing" or "uncounted" or whatever to make 2011 work too. Wikiditm ( talk) 10:10, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
In the sentence: "Since its founding, the winner of the Ames Straw Poll has gone on to win the Republican presidential nomination X out of five times." X should be three: George W. Bush, Bob Dole, George H. W. Bush. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metzby ( talk • contribs) 16:56, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Michele Bachmann's win at the straw poll marked the first time a female candidate won the poll. Is this a fact that is worth a mention in the article? 68.43.93.38 ( talk) 00:22, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Given the March 12, 2015 announcement that Boone will be the site of the 2015 event, it's inevitable that the previous common name will change soon, if it hasn't already. We need a reliable source to confirm the claim that "the Iowa Straw Poll is by far the most prominent of the several straw polls held in Iowa." What are the other straw polls; are they notable? This statement has been removed from the article. ( non-admin closure) Wbm1058 ( talk) 14:27, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Ames Straw Poll →
Iowa Straw Poll – The Republican Party of Iowa, which organizes and benefits from this fundraising event, does not refer to it as the Ames Straw Poll. While popular to call it the Ames Straw Poll due to where it has been hosted in previous years, the event is not tied to Ames. In fact, the Republican Party of Iowa opened the bidding process for 2015 and three of four finalist sites are not in Ames:
http://www.iowagop.org/2015/02/13/four-venues-submit-straw-poll-bids/. --Relisted.
Andrewa (
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IARepublican (
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19:02, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
The Iowa Straw Poll was a specific Republican Party event that was last held in 2011. There are a variety of other straw polls in Iowa, that is unrelated to the topic of this article. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 19:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
A fact from Iowa Straw Poll (1979–2011) appeared on Wikipedia's
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Can someone track down the exact dates of the 1979 and 1987 Ames Straw Polls and then add those dates, giving an appropriate citation, in the article? This information seems to be unfortunately lacking on the World Wide Web, but it should be readily available in newspaper archives. — Lowellian ( reply) 07:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
In the section titled "Significance," the article makes some claims of general trends in the poll which I think are unfounded, given that the poll has only happened 4 times (soon to be 5). Ex: "in the history of the Ames Straw Poll, except in 1987, the winner (or in case of the tie in 1995, one of the winners) of the Ames Straw Poll has gone on to win the Iowa Caucus." 3 matches out of 4 (and one of those not even a clear victory) could very easily be chance. Perhaps, in reality, it only correctly predicts about 50% of the time, but due to chance we happened to get 3 out of 4 instead of 2 out of 4. There's really no way to know, and I think it's simply too early to draw out patterns, even after the upcoming poll (notwishstanding that it's a pastime of American politics to scrutinize every single datum to within an inch of its life).
Likewise with the first sentence of that same paragraph, "Only about half of the winners of the Ames Straw Poll have gone on to win the Republican presidential nomination." Well, right now it's 2 out of 4, which is exactly half. "About half," I feel, makes it sound like we've got a larger data set, with higher precision, than we do.
Just some thoughts.
Munion 19:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
It is unclear how the actual voting takes place... The article mentions the ones that already voted have their hands stamped, but how did they vote? By raising hands? Wikiak 00:33, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Why is the title of this article "Ames Straw Poll" instead of "Iowa Straw Poll?" The Iowa Republican Party (who runs the poll), refers to it as the "Iowa Straw Poll" on their website, the logo for this year's poll also refers to it as the "Iowa Straw Poll," and pretty much every media story I've seen about it this year refers to it as the "Iowa Straw Poll." Yes, it does take place in Ames, but that is not the name that it seems to have been given. Etphonehome 22:15, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
The Republican Party of Iowa, i.e. the organizer and beneficiary of this fundraising event, only refers to this event at The Iowa Straw Poll. It happens that it has always taken place in Ames, however it has also been a competitive bid process. For 2015, Ames is one of four finalists and according to political watchers, Ames is unlikely to retain this event. If and when an announcement is made moving this event outside of Ames, this page must reflect the reality that the event is the Iowa Straw Poll and not the Ames Straw Poll. http://www.iowagop.org/2015/02/13/four-venues-submit-straw-poll-bids/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by IARepublican ( talk • contribs) 18:56, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Limiting information to only what is broadcast by entertainment networks is no way to run a current events encyclopedia. There must be some leniency for inclusion of amature primary accounts until scholarly investigation of the subject is completed. This policy just leads to sockpuppeting... Until that realization is made this discussion section will have to suffice. Below is a personal eye witness account of the event. For other wikipedians in attendence please verify my observations and add your own. (Here, not to the article as that is against current policy) Hopefully a reputable source will publish an article for citation.
It was advertised that Iowa State students could show a student ID to vote. However, those in possession of an out of state drivers licence and no voter registration card on them were turned away. Also, the polling center required voters to mark their thumb with an iodine based ink. This had the effect of marking every ballot with a thumbprint unless voters took to the non-ergonomic method of feeding their ballot into the machine without use of an possible digit.
Also, for voters on buses paid for by a candidate they had no unobstructed view of the tents of candidates Tommy Thompson and Ron Paul, as they were placed on the other side of the complex from the bus parking area.
In addition Romney supporters were allowed to fill the floor during his speech, while supporters of Ron Paul were limited to 150 supporters while hundreds more without gold wrist bands were forced to stay out of the area immediately in front of the podium. GrEp 03:31, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Image:Straw poll logo.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot 19:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Partial results are at http://www.mikeswashingtonwatch.com/archives/2007/09/the_ames_straw_poll.shtml Someone with semi-protected access can update the main page (I don't have access or the time to bother). 77.20.56.60 ( talk) 07:55, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Has anyone heard the results of Colbert Super PAC's satirical push for "Rick Parry" with an A? SwimFellow ( talk) 23:24, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
The group that runs the straw poll is not releasing the write-ins by spelling. As it is, Colbert's shtick might be worthy of a one sentence mention, but I don't think it really merits it, because there is no way of knowing how much of Perry's vote total came from actual Perry supporters and how much came from Colbert supporters. Furthermore, it really doesn't matter. – Muboshgu ( talk) 17:11, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
The total for the 2011 isn't the sum of all the above numbers. It is off by 56. I'm guessing this is votes that didn't get counted for whatever reason, but the total for all the other years is correct, so I'm wondering if you need to add in a box with "missing" or "uncounted" or whatever to make 2011 work too. Wikiditm ( talk) 10:10, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
In the sentence: "Since its founding, the winner of the Ames Straw Poll has gone on to win the Republican presidential nomination X out of five times." X should be three: George W. Bush, Bob Dole, George H. W. Bush. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metzby ( talk • contribs) 16:56, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Michele Bachmann's win at the straw poll marked the first time a female candidate won the poll. Is this a fact that is worth a mention in the article? 68.43.93.38 ( talk) 00:22, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Given the March 12, 2015 announcement that Boone will be the site of the 2015 event, it's inevitable that the previous common name will change soon, if it hasn't already. We need a reliable source to confirm the claim that "the Iowa Straw Poll is by far the most prominent of the several straw polls held in Iowa." What are the other straw polls; are they notable? This statement has been removed from the article. ( non-admin closure) Wbm1058 ( talk) 14:27, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Ames Straw Poll →
Iowa Straw Poll – The Republican Party of Iowa, which organizes and benefits from this fundraising event, does not refer to it as the Ames Straw Poll. While popular to call it the Ames Straw Poll due to where it has been hosted in previous years, the event is not tied to Ames. In fact, the Republican Party of Iowa opened the bidding process for 2015 and three of four finalist sites are not in Ames:
http://www.iowagop.org/2015/02/13/four-venues-submit-straw-poll-bids/. --Relisted.
Andrewa (
talk) 07:08, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
IARepublican (
talk)
19:02, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
The Iowa Straw Poll was a specific Republican Party event that was last held in 2011. There are a variety of other straw polls in Iowa, that is unrelated to the topic of this article. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 19:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)