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Created by Piotrus ( talk). Self-nominated at 11:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Inner space (science fiction); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
Hook eligibility:
QPQ: Done. |
Overall:
Article created on 5 March, and is well beyond the required minimum length. All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the material they are cited for—though I have not been able to access all of them.
Earwig reveals no copyvio, but see below about
WP:Close paraphrasing. There are no obvious neutrality issues. The hook is interesting (could perhaps be tweaked to be catchier), but the sourcing in the article needs to be tweaked to have an inline reference at the end of the sentence (
WP:DYKHFC); I think this is an acceptable rephrasing of the Graaf quote about being "a polemical statement against the science fiction concept of 'Outer space' – space", so that's the sentence where a source should go (I'll have to
WP:AGF since I have not been able to access the source—but that's not a problem, because I will). QPQ has been done. Some comments on the content:
Inner space in the context of science fiction refers to works– MOS:REFERSTO.
Works from this genre played an important role in the emergence of the New Wave in science fiction in the 1960s.– I don't get this from the body?
defined inner space as "a category introduced to science fiction by representatives of the New Wave to designate human's internal, mental experiences as imaginary worlds with no connection to the real world. They also that "fantastic images painted by [New Wave artists] are... projections of mental states, symbols of unspecified longings and anxieties of modern people"– there are an odd number of "quotation marks" here. I'm guessing one should be immediately following "real world"?
to designate human's internal, mental experiences– I'm assuming this is a translation from the original Polish. Should
human'sbe
humans'(or perhaps
a human'sor
humanity's)?
They also that– there seems to be a word missing.
In its most narrow definition, the genre has been described as works about "technologically supported journeys into the interior of the human psyche"–
The term inner space in fantasy is also used in contexts other than psychological ones, including: in works about cyberspace, underwater regions or miniaturization.– I'm skeptical that "fantasy" is the right word here, but more to the point I don't get miniaturization from the cited sources?
creators of ambitious science fiction should move away from repetitive stories about galactic adventures and focus on the inner cosmos of man– WP:Close paraphrasing of the source's "ambitious science fiction should abandon repetitive space stories and investigate the inner space of the human mind".
Ballard criticized traditional science fiction, with themes such as space travel and exploration, as "childish" and called for works that are "exploring ourselves, the hidden life of the psyche".– that was Priestley, not Ballard.
He points to H. G. Wells' novel Mr. Blettsworthy on Rampole Island (1928) as the earliest example, describing it as a "prototype of inner-space works".– well, not quite. He gives it as an early example, one of two by Wells, and describes those two as "prototype inner-space stories".
Rob Mayo traces the genre origins to the works of Peter Phillipps– works, plural?
Ping Piotrus. TompaDompa ( talk) 20:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Some issues you raise, while valid, are beyond the DYK level of what is required (I am currently not intending to take this to a GA level, where we need to look into such issues). Ex. "refer to". Feel free to reword it; I doubt it is something that would be a common GA issue (maybe FA?).
Some of the things raised above do indeed go beyond the DYK requirements ( MOS:REFERSTO, as part of MOS:LEAD, technically falls under WP:GACR 1b). I've made a few additional changes myself:
Please check that these changes seem alright to you. Two things still need to be resolved before this is ready:
This concept is narrower than the broader concept of psychological science fiction. In its most narrow definition, the genre has been described as works about "technologically assisted journeys into the hypothetical Inner Space of the human mind".– this goes a fair bit beyond what the source says (the source does not compare the concepts of inner space and psychological science fiction, and the quoted part is not a definition of the genre). The easiest solution would be to remove this part.
Ping Piotrus. TompaDompa ( talk) 11:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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![]() | A fact from Inner space (science fiction) appeared on Wikipedia's
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The result was: promoted by
AirshipJungleman29
talk
12:31, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Created by Piotrus ( talk). Self-nominated at 11:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Inner space (science fiction); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
---|
Policy compliance:
Hook eligibility:
QPQ: Done. |
Overall:
Article created on 5 March, and is well beyond the required minimum length. All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the material they are cited for—though I have not been able to access all of them.
Earwig reveals no copyvio, but see below about
WP:Close paraphrasing. There are no obvious neutrality issues. The hook is interesting (could perhaps be tweaked to be catchier), but the sourcing in the article needs to be tweaked to have an inline reference at the end of the sentence (
WP:DYKHFC); I think this is an acceptable rephrasing of the Graaf quote about being "a polemical statement against the science fiction concept of 'Outer space' – space", so that's the sentence where a source should go (I'll have to
WP:AGF since I have not been able to access the source—but that's not a problem, because I will). QPQ has been done. Some comments on the content:
Inner space in the context of science fiction refers to works– MOS:REFERSTO.
Works from this genre played an important role in the emergence of the New Wave in science fiction in the 1960s.– I don't get this from the body?
defined inner space as "a category introduced to science fiction by representatives of the New Wave to designate human's internal, mental experiences as imaginary worlds with no connection to the real world. They also that "fantastic images painted by [New Wave artists] are... projections of mental states, symbols of unspecified longings and anxieties of modern people"– there are an odd number of "quotation marks" here. I'm guessing one should be immediately following "real world"?
to designate human's internal, mental experiences– I'm assuming this is a translation from the original Polish. Should
human'sbe
humans'(or perhaps
a human'sor
humanity's)?
They also that– there seems to be a word missing.
In its most narrow definition, the genre has been described as works about "technologically supported journeys into the interior of the human psyche"–
The term inner space in fantasy is also used in contexts other than psychological ones, including: in works about cyberspace, underwater regions or miniaturization.– I'm skeptical that "fantasy" is the right word here, but more to the point I don't get miniaturization from the cited sources?
creators of ambitious science fiction should move away from repetitive stories about galactic adventures and focus on the inner cosmos of man– WP:Close paraphrasing of the source's "ambitious science fiction should abandon repetitive space stories and investigate the inner space of the human mind".
Ballard criticized traditional science fiction, with themes such as space travel and exploration, as "childish" and called for works that are "exploring ourselves, the hidden life of the psyche".– that was Priestley, not Ballard.
He points to H. G. Wells' novel Mr. Blettsworthy on Rampole Island (1928) as the earliest example, describing it as a "prototype of inner-space works".– well, not quite. He gives it as an early example, one of two by Wells, and describes those two as "prototype inner-space stories".
Rob Mayo traces the genre origins to the works of Peter Phillipps– works, plural?
Ping Piotrus. TompaDompa ( talk) 20:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Some issues you raise, while valid, are beyond the DYK level of what is required (I am currently not intending to take this to a GA level, where we need to look into such issues). Ex. "refer to". Feel free to reword it; I doubt it is something that would be a common GA issue (maybe FA?).
Some of the things raised above do indeed go beyond the DYK requirements ( MOS:REFERSTO, as part of MOS:LEAD, technically falls under WP:GACR 1b). I've made a few additional changes myself:
Please check that these changes seem alright to you. Two things still need to be resolved before this is ready:
This concept is narrower than the broader concept of psychological science fiction. In its most narrow definition, the genre has been described as works about "technologically assisted journeys into the hypothetical Inner Space of the human mind".– this goes a fair bit beyond what the source says (the source does not compare the concepts of inner space and psychological science fiction, and the quoted part is not a definition of the genre). The easiest solution would be to remove this part.
Ping Piotrus. TompaDompa ( talk) 11:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)