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I know this puts bad news on someone, but I do hope the name Gordon is retired in 2006...let's get it out of their misery, even if it does far less devastation than in 1994! CrazyC83 23:10, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
While Hurricane Gordon could certainly be included in the subject of Haiti's tragic hurricane history, I dont believe that it should be included in the Hurricane Gordon article as it does not directly relate to information on Hurricane Gordon. Perhaps this would be better noted on Haiti's Wikipedia page. I have updated the topic to more accurately reflect the devastation in Haiti that was caused by Hurricane Gordon, and removed the specific references to the other storms. (10/10/2005) Fumetsu
A number of meteorologists believe that the system that ejected out of the Caribbean into the southwest Atlantic and the subtropical cyclone that formed in the Florida Straits were two different systems; both are currently considered one system named Gordon. There was a brief time period where one could follow the two different low centers. Just an FYI, in case it is ever decided to split the track of Gordon into two separate tracks in the next decade during the hurricane re-analysis. Thegreatdr 17:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
I added a GIBBS image to replace the other, really close up one. I know, GIBBS isn't exactly the best, but at least you can see the whole storm and get an idea on where it's at. If you have a problem with it, just revert it. ;) →Cycl one1→ 19:01, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Where did that close-up, NASA pic go? That was the best one we had. -- § Hurricane E RIC § archive 00:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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Good article. More info should be merged into the haiti section from the impact section. Also, references are needed. Jdorje 21:22, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Way too much is needed for the article for this to be considered C-class: impact? preps? aftermath? ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 06:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
If someone is looking to expand upon the article information-wise, there are rainfall totals listed on a few HPC rainfall pages related to the system. I just uploaded a more current version of the rainfall graphic to commons. Thegreatdr ( talk) 18:06, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
More everything!. Storm05 18:03, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Link --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:52, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
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By consensus within the talk page, the article needs a preparation and an aftermath section before it can reach C or B class. An expanded lead would help out as well. Thegreatdr ( talk) 18:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC) |
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The result of the move request was: No consensus for a move. I might suggest making Hurricane Gordon redirect to this page, and add a hatnote to direct readers to the other storms listed at Tropical Storm Gordon. ( non-admin closure) Bradv 21:59, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Hurricane Gordon (1994) → Hurricane Gordon – Obviously the primary topic. Jdcomix ( talk) 14:23, 30 October 2016 (UTC), Relisting. Jdcomix ( talk) 14:45, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) TonyBallioni ( talk) 02:11, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Hurricane Gordon (1994) → Hurricane Gordon – It may be the primary topic. Gordon in 1994 caused more than 1,100 deaths and the damage is near $600 million. 219.79.250.146 ( talk) 00:53, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
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Alright, so this has been bothering me for a while, and I'm sorry, but I just had to bring this up. If Hurricane Gert and Hurricane Karl are primary topics, then why isn't Gordon? Like Gert and Karl, whose reasoning for primary topics were that they were the most significant storms of their name, this Gordon is the most significant storm of its name (yes, there is Gordon 2006, but it was not even a tropical cyclone when it struck Europe, and its impacts were far less significant). Additionally, Gordon has its own meteorological history page, and is the only non-primary topic to have so due to its interesting meteorological history (which is another reason why it could be moved). It's been nearly twelve years, and despite the fact that its by far the most significant Gordon, it still has the year attached. It might finally be time to take off the year. Cooper 14:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@ Cyclonebiskit: @ Jasper Deng: @ Jason Rees: @ MarioProtIV: What do you all think?
The result of the move request was: Consensus exists per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC to move the page to Hurricane Gordon. Noah Talk 19:27, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
The 1994 Hurricane Gordon is clearly the primary topic. It did significantly more damage and killed more people than all of the other storms named "Gordon" in the North Atlantic, including every other Gordon that made it to hurricane status. The death toll of 1,122 is also significantly higher that what we see from most storms in the Atlantic hurricane basin in contemporary times. The pageviews for the 1994 storm shows that its article usually receives significantly more traffic than those of the other hurricanes with the same name. Sure, a couple of the other Gordons in the North Atlantic were also pretty significant for the areas they impacted (specifically, the 2006 and the 2018 storms), but none of the other storms come anywhere close to this storm in terms of overall significance. Also, the vast majority of mentions on "Hurricane Gordon" that I've seen in the media refer to the 1994 storm. Whenever I see an article referring to a "Hurricane Gordon" that referenced it as a strong candidate for retirement (without the year mentioned), it was always referring to the 1994 storm. Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:CONCISE, any storm that is clearly the primary topic should get the main title, without the year. The actual retirement status is irrelevant. While most of the retired storms are the respective primary topics, some of them clearly aren't. As such, I propose moving this article to "Hurricane Gordon." LightandDark2000 🌀 ( talk) 20:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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I know this puts bad news on someone, but I do hope the name Gordon is retired in 2006...let's get it out of their misery, even if it does far less devastation than in 1994! CrazyC83 23:10, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
While Hurricane Gordon could certainly be included in the subject of Haiti's tragic hurricane history, I dont believe that it should be included in the Hurricane Gordon article as it does not directly relate to information on Hurricane Gordon. Perhaps this would be better noted on Haiti's Wikipedia page. I have updated the topic to more accurately reflect the devastation in Haiti that was caused by Hurricane Gordon, and removed the specific references to the other storms. (10/10/2005) Fumetsu
A number of meteorologists believe that the system that ejected out of the Caribbean into the southwest Atlantic and the subtropical cyclone that formed in the Florida Straits were two different systems; both are currently considered one system named Gordon. There was a brief time period where one could follow the two different low centers. Just an FYI, in case it is ever decided to split the track of Gordon into two separate tracks in the next decade during the hurricane re-analysis. Thegreatdr 17:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
I added a GIBBS image to replace the other, really close up one. I know, GIBBS isn't exactly the best, but at least you can see the whole storm and get an idea on where it's at. If you have a problem with it, just revert it. ;) →Cycl one1→ 19:01, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Where did that close-up, NASA pic go? That was the best one we had. -- § Hurricane E RIC § archive 00:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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Good article. More info should be merged into the haiti section from the impact section. Also, references are needed. Jdorje 21:22, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Way too much is needed for the article for this to be considered C-class: impact? preps? aftermath? ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 06:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
If someone is looking to expand upon the article information-wise, there are rainfall totals listed on a few HPC rainfall pages related to the system. I just uploaded a more current version of the rainfall graphic to commons. Thegreatdr ( talk) 18:06, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
More everything!. Storm05 18:03, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Link --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 02:52, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Hurricane Gordon/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
By consensus within the talk page, the article needs a preparation and an aftermath section before it can reach C or B class. An expanded lead would help out as well. Thegreatdr ( talk) 18:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC) |
Last edited at 18:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 18:31, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus for a move. I might suggest making Hurricane Gordon redirect to this page, and add a hatnote to direct readers to the other storms listed at Tropical Storm Gordon. ( non-admin closure) Bradv 21:59, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Hurricane Gordon (1994) → Hurricane Gordon – Obviously the primary topic. Jdcomix ( talk) 14:23, 30 October 2016 (UTC), Relisting. Jdcomix ( talk) 14:45, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) TonyBallioni ( talk) 02:11, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Hurricane Gordon (1994) → Hurricane Gordon – It may be the primary topic. Gordon in 1994 caused more than 1,100 deaths and the damage is near $600 million. 219.79.250.146 ( talk) 00:53, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
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Alright, so this has been bothering me for a while, and I'm sorry, but I just had to bring this up. If Hurricane Gert and Hurricane Karl are primary topics, then why isn't Gordon? Like Gert and Karl, whose reasoning for primary topics were that they were the most significant storms of their name, this Gordon is the most significant storm of its name (yes, there is Gordon 2006, but it was not even a tropical cyclone when it struck Europe, and its impacts were far less significant). Additionally, Gordon has its own meteorological history page, and is the only non-primary topic to have so due to its interesting meteorological history (which is another reason why it could be moved). It's been nearly twelve years, and despite the fact that its by far the most significant Gordon, it still has the year attached. It might finally be time to take off the year. Cooper 14:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
@ Cyclonebiskit: @ Jasper Deng: @ Jason Rees: @ MarioProtIV: What do you all think?
The result of the move request was: Consensus exists per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC to move the page to Hurricane Gordon. Noah Talk 19:27, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
The 1994 Hurricane Gordon is clearly the primary topic. It did significantly more damage and killed more people than all of the other storms named "Gordon" in the North Atlantic, including every other Gordon that made it to hurricane status. The death toll of 1,122 is also significantly higher that what we see from most storms in the Atlantic hurricane basin in contemporary times. The pageviews for the 1994 storm shows that its article usually receives significantly more traffic than those of the other hurricanes with the same name. Sure, a couple of the other Gordons in the North Atlantic were also pretty significant for the areas they impacted (specifically, the 2006 and the 2018 storms), but none of the other storms come anywhere close to this storm in terms of overall significance. Also, the vast majority of mentions on "Hurricane Gordon" that I've seen in the media refer to the 1994 storm. Whenever I see an article referring to a "Hurricane Gordon" that referenced it as a strong candidate for retirement (without the year mentioned), it was always referring to the 1994 storm. Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:CONCISE, any storm that is clearly the primary topic should get the main title, without the year. The actual retirement status is irrelevant. While most of the retired storms are the respective primary topics, some of them clearly aren't. As such, I propose moving this article to "Hurricane Gordon." LightandDark2000 🌀 ( talk) 20:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)