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Since this is a general article on Tack, some material on the history of riding tack should be included, the invention of the stirrup, the bridle, the saddle, etc. Each was a very significant moment in history. -- Domhail 08:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
There's nothing here about foot- and hoof- accessories here. I came to the article looking for a less ambiguous term for a "boot" (which nowadays usually velcros on at or below the ankle, but doesn't cover the hoof). The human analog is an "ankle sleeve" or "ankle brace" but this term does not appear to be in regular use in the equestrian context. Given increased paving and urban-riding there are rubber "shoes" which actually become a new walking surface for the horse. This is also ambiguous given that regular horseshoes do not encapsulate the foot atall, but instead get nailed on flush with the arc of the hoof-wall. I'd love it if these newer inventions could be included and clarified with alternate and/or more-specific names. Koyae ( talk) 05:06, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
I'd like a "Bitless bridles" section. Take in account that "The Bitless Bridle" is a patented, commercial bridle by dr. Robert Cook with a peculiar design and action. Other bitless bridles are largely used among riders that practice Natural horsemanship (halters used as bridles, sidepulls and so on). Bitless riding is no more a "training" issue.-- Alex brollo 18:05, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
I added a mention about treeless saddles and a picture of a treeless saddle model. It's a Barefoot Cheyenne (more here).
I'm uploading some tack-related pictures into commons too; if you have any, please consider uploading them and filing them into the gallery at
Commons:Horse tack--
Alex brollo
07:12, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
General Bit Information
There is no information regarding bits and the various types of bits out there to use when tacking up your horse. I added one link to a great article which outlines the types of Snaffle Bits. JasonA 20:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Tack
First I apologize; I don't know how to create a new entry via your web site and I seem to have added this to a section other than intended. Perhaps someone can make the following a general addition to the entry under "tack":
Perhaps some of your readers would be interested in the origin of the word "tack": According to _The Horsemen's Encyclopedia_, by Margaret Cabell Self, A. S. Barnes and Company, 1946, p 395 the word was originally tackle. The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) p 530 agrees, indeed citing Self's book as one of the examples.
I suggest that this article not recapitulate the topics of more specific articles. Instead, group together links to the other articles, perhaps as lists. And write a history section, that outlines which pieces of tack came first. -- Una Smith ( talk) 23:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I am new at owning a horse, as i am young, and i need to know how to attach a bit to a headstall and if all bridel/bit combos need a curb chain...thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.160.215.94 ( talk) 19:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
After a quick first read of this article, I have a few suggestions for some tweaks: in the into para, I would express (define) tack as equipment used for the purpose of riding and driving horses... as not all equipment would be considered tack, e.g. hoof boots or bandages would not be considered tack, IMO. I propose the sentence might read something like this: "Tack is the term used to describe various equipment used for the purpose of riding or driving horses, and includes saddles, bridles, martingales, [etc.]..." (I don't think we need to specify domesticated horses.... I think that would be fairly evident... i.e, we would not be equipping non-domesticated horses, right?) Also, The main photo is of a police horse, which I think could be improved upon. For one thing, the person on the horse blocks/distracts the viewer from seeing the actual tack. I will try to find some other photos.... The sentence "equipping a horse is often referred to as tacking up" could be finessed... maybe "The act of putting on the saddle, bridle, etc. is often referred to as tacking up" or something along those lines. "Equipping the horse" sounds like you're getting him ready to go off to college.
In saddle section, how does an ill-fitting saddle risk rider injury? Also, why does the order of the sections go 'saddle, stirrups, headgear?' First of all, we have called headgear 'bridle' earlier in the article. We need to be consistent. Also, I might argue that a stirrup is part of the saddle and could be included in the saddle section. Also, is a halter really considered tack? Do you refer to putting on a halter as tacking up? Seems to me tacking up refers more to riding equipment..... anyway, just my two cents.... -- AeronM ( talk) 01:47, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
This article should have a link to rider's gear. Is there a Wik site about that? Kdammers ( talk)
Shouldn't there be a list showing the tacking up sequence while taking care to avoid WP:NOTHOWTO? Maybe even a section or article on tacking up with a video would be good. Plenty of information could be added without telling the reader exactly how to do it. Information might include size/fit, materials, sequence, option/vital/alternate items, relationship of one item to another, hazards, time duration wearing tack and time for tacking untacking. Think of the 5 Ws without the "how". Some such articles are within the scope of Wikipedia, such as Smoking (cooking) and Computer programming. I may be way off on this one, so thoughts? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 23:51, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Hmm. Here is the tack up sequence the way I do it ( Western riding).
As for the time duration, I don't know. Working cowboys leave it on all day. Casual riders leave it on maybe a couple of hours. Essential gear would be the cinch and latigo, with a back cinch optional. Again, this is Western, not English riding. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 02:02, 24 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare
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Since this is a general article on Tack, some material on the history of riding tack should be included, the invention of the stirrup, the bridle, the saddle, etc. Each was a very significant moment in history. -- Domhail 08:44, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
There's nothing here about foot- and hoof- accessories here. I came to the article looking for a less ambiguous term for a "boot" (which nowadays usually velcros on at or below the ankle, but doesn't cover the hoof). The human analog is an "ankle sleeve" or "ankle brace" but this term does not appear to be in regular use in the equestrian context. Given increased paving and urban-riding there are rubber "shoes" which actually become a new walking surface for the horse. This is also ambiguous given that regular horseshoes do not encapsulate the foot atall, but instead get nailed on flush with the arc of the hoof-wall. I'd love it if these newer inventions could be included and clarified with alternate and/or more-specific names. Koyae ( talk) 05:06, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
I'd like a "Bitless bridles" section. Take in account that "The Bitless Bridle" is a patented, commercial bridle by dr. Robert Cook with a peculiar design and action. Other bitless bridles are largely used among riders that practice Natural horsemanship (halters used as bridles, sidepulls and so on). Bitless riding is no more a "training" issue.-- Alex brollo 18:05, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
I added a mention about treeless saddles and a picture of a treeless saddle model. It's a Barefoot Cheyenne (more here).
I'm uploading some tack-related pictures into commons too; if you have any, please consider uploading them and filing them into the gallery at
Commons:Horse tack--
Alex brollo
07:12, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
General Bit Information
There is no information regarding bits and the various types of bits out there to use when tacking up your horse. I added one link to a great article which outlines the types of Snaffle Bits. JasonA 20:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Tack
First I apologize; I don't know how to create a new entry via your web site and I seem to have added this to a section other than intended. Perhaps someone can make the following a general addition to the entry under "tack":
Perhaps some of your readers would be interested in the origin of the word "tack": According to _The Horsemen's Encyclopedia_, by Margaret Cabell Self, A. S. Barnes and Company, 1946, p 395 the word was originally tackle. The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) p 530 agrees, indeed citing Self's book as one of the examples.
I suggest that this article not recapitulate the topics of more specific articles. Instead, group together links to the other articles, perhaps as lists. And write a history section, that outlines which pieces of tack came first. -- Una Smith ( talk) 23:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I am new at owning a horse, as i am young, and i need to know how to attach a bit to a headstall and if all bridel/bit combos need a curb chain...thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.160.215.94 ( talk) 19:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
After a quick first read of this article, I have a few suggestions for some tweaks: in the into para, I would express (define) tack as equipment used for the purpose of riding and driving horses... as not all equipment would be considered tack, e.g. hoof boots or bandages would not be considered tack, IMO. I propose the sentence might read something like this: "Tack is the term used to describe various equipment used for the purpose of riding or driving horses, and includes saddles, bridles, martingales, [etc.]..." (I don't think we need to specify domesticated horses.... I think that would be fairly evident... i.e, we would not be equipping non-domesticated horses, right?) Also, The main photo is of a police horse, which I think could be improved upon. For one thing, the person on the horse blocks/distracts the viewer from seeing the actual tack. I will try to find some other photos.... The sentence "equipping a horse is often referred to as tacking up" could be finessed... maybe "The act of putting on the saddle, bridle, etc. is often referred to as tacking up" or something along those lines. "Equipping the horse" sounds like you're getting him ready to go off to college.
In saddle section, how does an ill-fitting saddle risk rider injury? Also, why does the order of the sections go 'saddle, stirrups, headgear?' First of all, we have called headgear 'bridle' earlier in the article. We need to be consistent. Also, I might argue that a stirrup is part of the saddle and could be included in the saddle section. Also, is a halter really considered tack? Do you refer to putting on a halter as tacking up? Seems to me tacking up refers more to riding equipment..... anyway, just my two cents.... -- AeronM ( talk) 01:47, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
This article should have a link to rider's gear. Is there a Wik site about that? Kdammers ( talk)
Shouldn't there be a list showing the tacking up sequence while taking care to avoid WP:NOTHOWTO? Maybe even a section or article on tacking up with a video would be good. Plenty of information could be added without telling the reader exactly how to do it. Information might include size/fit, materials, sequence, option/vital/alternate items, relationship of one item to another, hazards, time duration wearing tack and time for tacking untacking. Think of the 5 Ws without the "how". Some such articles are within the scope of Wikipedia, such as Smoking (cooking) and Computer programming. I may be way off on this one, so thoughts? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 23:51, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Hmm. Here is the tack up sequence the way I do it ( Western riding).
As for the time duration, I don't know. Working cowboys leave it on all day. Casual riders leave it on maybe a couple of hours. Essential gear would be the cinch and latigo, with a back cinch optional. Again, this is Western, not English riding. White Arabian mare ( Neigh) 02:02, 24 September 2015 (UTC)White Arabian mare