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Not joking, folks. See for yourselves: The Claims of Japan and Malaysia Upon Christendom, Volume 2, by Charles William King, G. Tradescant Lay ( https://books.google.com.my/books?id=mvrMHyPlxakC&pg=PR2&dq=%22malaysia%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd2sPout3oAhWIyzgGHWQCDNQQ6AEITjAF#v=onepage&q=%22malaysia%22&f=false)
Malaysia did not exist until the 16 of September 1963. Sarawak was known as Kingdom of Sarawak under Rajah Brooke. Brooke was not a British colonist. Sarawak was given by Brunei Sultanate to James Brookes. In short, Federation of Malaysia history existed on 16 Sept 1963 onward. Actually Malaysia is Malaya! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.171.176.118 ( talk) 08:10, 23 September 2013 (UTC) Fratfirst ( talk) 08:25, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
well it didn't give me much information on malaysia, well not enough that i was looking for.
Article is too long. Will truncate it by removing minor details. __earth 17:15, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
It really is quite frustrating, since you remove information without discussing it first, information that is well justified and proven. (Ie. in the Melaka issue, it is a highlight of the dark side of colonialism that unethically treats people as second class simply because they lack military superiority) Could you discuss it next time please? -- Natalinasmpf 21:10, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Oh, if you want proof that Singapore was in fact expelled, I will be posting some sources in the PAP-UMNO relations article soon.
See the PAP-UMNO relations article - the Tunku expelled Singapore from Malaysia, then agreed on post-separation relations. The actual agreement of Separation doesn't mean they agreed on why they should separate, but what they should do after separation (with respect to trade and such.) It may not be the purpose of an encyclopedia to editorialise, but certainly to analyse the facts.
The Portugese and other colonialists, did in fact, did use military superiority as an excuse of justified conquest to treat the natives as second-class, and this was a primary reason to drive independence of both Malaysia and Singapore. -- Natalinasmpf 00:28, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Expulsion: At PAP-UMNO relations you write: "On August 7, 1965, Tunku Abdul Rahman announced to the Malaysian Parliament in Kuala Lumpur that he had ordered Singapore to leave the Federation, choosing to "sever all ties with a State Government that showed no measure of loyalty to its Central Government" as opposed to the undesirable method of repressing the PAP for its actions. Singapore's expulsion and independence became official on August 9, 1965."
Abdul Rahman wasn't an absolute monarch - he couldn't just "order" the expulsion of a member state from a constitutional federation. There must have been a legislative instrument of some kind. It must have taken the form either of Malaysia expelling Singapore against its will, or of Singapore withdrawing voluntarily (even if under duress). So you need to find that document.
Colonialism: This is not an article about colonialism. All that needs to be said in an article of this length is that the Portuguese captured Melaka. If you want to write a detailed account, do it at the Melaka article. Adam 00:48, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The article claims Marcos recognised Malaysia and dropped the claimed to Sabah. AFAIK, the Sabah claim was put aside and is still not something the Phillipines actively pursues much but has not been dropped as supported by the Sabah article and the Savah dispute article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nil Einne ( talk • contribs)
It was dropped as a matter of practical politics, otherwise Malaysia and the Philippines could not have established diplomatic relations. It may still be technically in existence (what does that mean, anyway? Does the Filipono Constituition say that Sabah is part of the Philippines?), but nothing has been heard of if for 40 years. Adam 02:32, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
The article is pretty good, lots of info(which is a good thing, IMO). But, there is a glaring lack of information about the history and origins of the aboriginal people(non-Malay) and the actual Austronesian speaking Malays themselves.-- Chicbicyclist 07:09, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
That is prehistory, not history. Feel free to write Prehistory of Malaysia or perhaps more usefully Prehistory of the Malay-Indonesian region. Adam 07:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Prehistory belongs in a prehistory article, it is not really demographics. It also doesn't make much sense to define prehistory by country. "Malaysia" is a modern invention as this article makes clear. Before the 18th century the Malay-Indonesian world was a cultural whole. The topics I have suggested above are more useful, or you could do Origins of the Malay-speaking peoples if that's what interests you. Adam 08:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys, I just wonder why the old Kedah Kingdom is not mentioned in this article and the template as well. I think, compare to Gangga Negara and Langkasuka, Old Kedah is much more important since it used to be a trade center and one of the earliest maritime kingdom in Malay World. 141.213.66.173 02:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
It is called "Lembah Bujang" originally excavated by Alistair Lamb. His notes on the original Archaeolical sites are extremely interesting. Lembah Bujang is pre-Angkor and pre-Borobuddor. It is spread over 240sq Kilometers making it almost what was thought to be the original size of Angkor. Lembah Bujang proves beyond doubt that most Malays were hindu at that point in time. The titles Raja and Sultan were also established then, under strong Hindu influence.
<< Isn't the Indian people rule here since 1 bc?
We don't know if they actually ruled here. But we do know that the original name for Malay came from the fact that the Tamils called the locals "Malai" which simply means "hill people"
<< And what about the aborigine peoples Orang Asli/Negrito/Senoi? — The Negritos simply transalate from Spanish to mean "mini Negros". They are in fact part of the original Australo-Melanesians who migrated out of Africa 60,000yrs ago from our DNA Adam. The present day "Malays" are but Austronesians (of Chinese origin; or more accurately, Mongoloid descent)
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Dear Merbabu, why "offshoot of the history of the wider Malay-Indonesian world that" is better that "offshoot of the history of the Malay Archipelago". You stated that the term Malay Archipelago is a colonial anachronism but it is not. The term Malay Archipelago is a legitimate and well-established term to describe a geographical area. __earth ( Talk) 17:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
If you "wonder why the term "Malay" is so important to" it is not so much the term Malay, it is what it is being called as for centuries. But let's stop insinuating things and concentrate on the points. Else, I could also wonder why you are so uncomfortable with the term "Malay". To the points:
1 MA is accurate (the definition is clear)
2 cleaner (just two words instead of 6 countries)
3 neutral
4 "(it never meant to illustrate Malay dominance)"
5 "current (usage backed by extremely reliable sources while proof to the contrary has yet to be supplied)
6 "historical accuracy instead of revisionism"
You replied to almost each very point of mine, but not convincingly - but anyone who uses the Glorious Revolution as justification is clearing missing the point. But you didn't reply to the the most important:
You've been provided with an indisputable alternative in place of a label you yourself describe as flawed. What's wrong with that?-- Merbabu ( talk) 08:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
The claim that the Emergency involved six years of fighting is incorrect. The Malayan Emergency lasted from 1948-60 and fighting, although limited in scope, took place right up until the end. Also, the claim that Templar invented counterinsurgency methods is also incorrect as those methods had been put in place before his arrival and he merely continued with them (although it must be admitted that he did so with a renewed vigour). There is pplenty of historiographical information about this issue available for consultation when this section is amended.colchar 13:35, 11 May 2006 —Preceding
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Malaysiais located near Australia. South East Asia (near indonesia) whose strategic malaysia country sea-lane position brought trade and foreign influences that fundamentally influenced its history. Hindu India, the Islamic Middle East and Christian Europe to its west, and China and Japan with one of successive phases of outside influence, followed by the mid-twentieth century establishment of independence from foreign colonial powers. Hindu and Buddhist cultures imported from India dominated early Malaysian history. They reached their peak in the Sumatran-based Srivijaya civilization, whose influence extended through Sumatra, Java, the Malay Peninsula and much of Borneo from the 7th to the 14th centuries.
Although Muslims had passed through Malaysia as early as the tenth century, it was not until the 14th and 15th centuries that Islam first established itself on the Malayan Peninsular. The adoption of Islam by the fifteenth century saw the rise of number sultanates, the most prominent of which was the Melaka (Malacca). Islamic culture has had a profound influence on the Malay people, but has also been influenced by them. The Portuguese were the first European colonial powers to establish themselves in Malaysia, capturing Malacca in 1511, followed by the Dutch. However, it was the British, who after initially establishing bases at Jesselton, Kuching, Penang and Singapore, ultimately secured their hegemony across the territory that is now Malaysia. The Anglo-Dutch Treaty of 1824 defined the boundaries between British Malaya and the Netherlands East Indies (which became Indonesia). A fourth phase of foreign influence was immigration of Chinese and Indian workers to meet the needs of the colonial economy created by the British in the Malay Peninsula and Borneo.[1]
Japanese invasion during World War II ended British domination in Malaysia. The subsequent occupation from 1942 to 1945 unleashed nationalism in Malaya and Borneo. In the Peninsula, the Malayan Communist Party took up arms against the British. A tough military response was needed to end the insurgency and bring about the establishment of an independent, multi-racial Federation of Malaya in 1957. On 31 August 1963, the British territories in North Borneo and Singapore were granted independence and formed Malaysia with the Peninsular states on 16 September 1963. Approximately two years later, Singapore was expelled from the Federation. A confrontation with Indonesia occurred in the early-1960s. Race riots in 1969 led to the imposition of emergency rule, and a curtailment of political life and civil liberties which has never been fully reversed. Since 1970 the "National Front coalition" headed by United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) has governed Malaysia. Economic growth dramatically increased living standards by the 1990s. This growing prosperity helped minimise political discontent.[citation needed] Successive UMNO-dominated governments have promoted the use of the Malay language and carried out systematic positive discrimination and moderate apartheid in favour of Muslims, measures which cause great resentment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.82.3.197 ( talk) 09:09, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
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This edit brought to my attention that there does not appear to me mention of the official political and economic favouritism in Malaysia towards the Malays at the expense of large minority groups. I could be wrong as I have not read the article in depth for a few years, but if it is not included, then this is a big neutrality and accuracy problem that needs to be addressed. Other articles, say Malaysia, should also be checked as to how they cover this topic. Cheers -- Merbabu ( talk) 01:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
The "Modern Malaysia" section of the article speaks of Malaysia being effectively a one-party state, and DAP and PAS being unable to form an effective opposition coalition, in the present tense. Both are no longer true, following the 2008 elections. I lack the expertise to edit it properly, but somebody definitely should.-- 131.217.6.6 ( talk) 08:54, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
The graphic depicts a British flag in the background, but Britain was not the only power that colonised Malaysia - there were the Portuguese and Dutch before them, and the Japanese for a short while. It's rather one-sided and misleading. Any way we could change the graphic? 118.100.81.9 ( talk) 11:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Begoon period formation of Malaysia is not malaysia history but also historical other country, and copyvio is not the issue, thanks Omdo ( talk) 00:49, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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Collection of old documents, papers, books, articles on Malay history.
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Should we really include this much content of the Brunei/Philippines into the page? Maybe some parts can be kept with good reason but it feels like a bit of a stretch including this much content on a History of Malaysia page?
I will be changing the dating system on this article away from the biased, Christian based AD/BC to the common era system next week. This will bring the article into alignment with secular usage such as /info/en/?search=History_of_India. If you object, please state why you are ok with the biased system here. Eupnevma ( talk) 19:26, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
In the History of Ukraine, History of Italy and History of Germany, the first paragraph focuses on the history of the relevant region. In contrast, the Malaysian page starts with an uncited opinion about modern views on Malaysian history.
Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required suggests we should aim to improve a page whenever possible, so I am removing an uncited opinion in favor of a cited historical fact, but the edit leaves the first paragraph shorter than ideal. If someone is able to add more cited facts, please do so!
@ Danial Bass Could you expand on why you don't believe this change is an improvement? If the problem is that the new paragraph is too short, could you follow Wikipedia:Editing_policy#Try_to_fix_problems and improve the edit, rather than removing the change?
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Not joking, folks. See for yourselves: The Claims of Japan and Malaysia Upon Christendom, Volume 2, by Charles William King, G. Tradescant Lay ( https://books.google.com.my/books?id=mvrMHyPlxakC&pg=PR2&dq=%22malaysia%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd2sPout3oAhWIyzgGHWQCDNQQ6AEITjAF#v=onepage&q=%22malaysia%22&f=false)
Malaysia did not exist until the 16 of September 1963. Sarawak was known as Kingdom of Sarawak under Rajah Brooke. Brooke was not a British colonist. Sarawak was given by Brunei Sultanate to James Brookes. In short, Federation of Malaysia history existed on 16 Sept 1963 onward. Actually Malaysia is Malaya! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.171.176.118 ( talk) 08:10, 23 September 2013 (UTC) Fratfirst ( talk) 08:25, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
well it didn't give me much information on malaysia, well not enough that i was looking for.
Article is too long. Will truncate it by removing minor details. __earth 17:15, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
It really is quite frustrating, since you remove information without discussing it first, information that is well justified and proven. (Ie. in the Melaka issue, it is a highlight of the dark side of colonialism that unethically treats people as second class simply because they lack military superiority) Could you discuss it next time please? -- Natalinasmpf 21:10, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Oh, if you want proof that Singapore was in fact expelled, I will be posting some sources in the PAP-UMNO relations article soon.
See the PAP-UMNO relations article - the Tunku expelled Singapore from Malaysia, then agreed on post-separation relations. The actual agreement of Separation doesn't mean they agreed on why they should separate, but what they should do after separation (with respect to trade and such.) It may not be the purpose of an encyclopedia to editorialise, but certainly to analyse the facts.
The Portugese and other colonialists, did in fact, did use military superiority as an excuse of justified conquest to treat the natives as second-class, and this was a primary reason to drive independence of both Malaysia and Singapore. -- Natalinasmpf 00:28, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Expulsion: At PAP-UMNO relations you write: "On August 7, 1965, Tunku Abdul Rahman announced to the Malaysian Parliament in Kuala Lumpur that he had ordered Singapore to leave the Federation, choosing to "sever all ties with a State Government that showed no measure of loyalty to its Central Government" as opposed to the undesirable method of repressing the PAP for its actions. Singapore's expulsion and independence became official on August 9, 1965."
Abdul Rahman wasn't an absolute monarch - he couldn't just "order" the expulsion of a member state from a constitutional federation. There must have been a legislative instrument of some kind. It must have taken the form either of Malaysia expelling Singapore against its will, or of Singapore withdrawing voluntarily (even if under duress). So you need to find that document.
Colonialism: This is not an article about colonialism. All that needs to be said in an article of this length is that the Portuguese captured Melaka. If you want to write a detailed account, do it at the Melaka article. Adam 00:48, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The article claims Marcos recognised Malaysia and dropped the claimed to Sabah. AFAIK, the Sabah claim was put aside and is still not something the Phillipines actively pursues much but has not been dropped as supported by the Sabah article and the Savah dispute article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nil Einne ( talk • contribs)
It was dropped as a matter of practical politics, otherwise Malaysia and the Philippines could not have established diplomatic relations. It may still be technically in existence (what does that mean, anyway? Does the Filipono Constituition say that Sabah is part of the Philippines?), but nothing has been heard of if for 40 years. Adam 02:32, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
The article is pretty good, lots of info(which is a good thing, IMO). But, there is a glaring lack of information about the history and origins of the aboriginal people(non-Malay) and the actual Austronesian speaking Malays themselves.-- Chicbicyclist 07:09, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
That is prehistory, not history. Feel free to write Prehistory of Malaysia or perhaps more usefully Prehistory of the Malay-Indonesian region. Adam 07:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Prehistory belongs in a prehistory article, it is not really demographics. It also doesn't make much sense to define prehistory by country. "Malaysia" is a modern invention as this article makes clear. Before the 18th century the Malay-Indonesian world was a cultural whole. The topics I have suggested above are more useful, or you could do Origins of the Malay-speaking peoples if that's what interests you. Adam 08:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys, I just wonder why the old Kedah Kingdom is not mentioned in this article and the template as well. I think, compare to Gangga Negara and Langkasuka, Old Kedah is much more important since it used to be a trade center and one of the earliest maritime kingdom in Malay World. 141.213.66.173 02:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
It is called "Lembah Bujang" originally excavated by Alistair Lamb. His notes on the original Archaeolical sites are extremely interesting. Lembah Bujang is pre-Angkor and pre-Borobuddor. It is spread over 240sq Kilometers making it almost what was thought to be the original size of Angkor. Lembah Bujang proves beyond doubt that most Malays were hindu at that point in time. The titles Raja and Sultan were also established then, under strong Hindu influence.
<< Isn't the Indian people rule here since 1 bc?
We don't know if they actually ruled here. But we do know that the original name for Malay came from the fact that the Tamils called the locals "Malai" which simply means "hill people"
<< And what about the aborigine peoples Orang Asli/Negrito/Senoi? — The Negritos simply transalate from Spanish to mean "mini Negros". They are in fact part of the original Australo-Melanesians who migrated out of Africa 60,000yrs ago from our DNA Adam. The present day "Malays" are but Austronesians (of Chinese origin; or more accurately, Mongoloid descent)
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Dear Merbabu, why "offshoot of the history of the wider Malay-Indonesian world that" is better that "offshoot of the history of the Malay Archipelago". You stated that the term Malay Archipelago is a colonial anachronism but it is not. The term Malay Archipelago is a legitimate and well-established term to describe a geographical area. __earth ( Talk) 17:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
If you "wonder why the term "Malay" is so important to" it is not so much the term Malay, it is what it is being called as for centuries. But let's stop insinuating things and concentrate on the points. Else, I could also wonder why you are so uncomfortable with the term "Malay". To the points:
1 MA is accurate (the definition is clear)
2 cleaner (just two words instead of 6 countries)
3 neutral
4 "(it never meant to illustrate Malay dominance)"
5 "current (usage backed by extremely reliable sources while proof to the contrary has yet to be supplied)
6 "historical accuracy instead of revisionism"
You replied to almost each very point of mine, but not convincingly - but anyone who uses the Glorious Revolution as justification is clearing missing the point. But you didn't reply to the the most important:
You've been provided with an indisputable alternative in place of a label you yourself describe as flawed. What's wrong with that?-- Merbabu ( talk) 08:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
The claim that the Emergency involved six years of fighting is incorrect. The Malayan Emergency lasted from 1948-60 and fighting, although limited in scope, took place right up until the end. Also, the claim that Templar invented counterinsurgency methods is also incorrect as those methods had been put in place before his arrival and he merely continued with them (although it must be admitted that he did so with a renewed vigour). There is pplenty of historiographical information about this issue available for consultation when this section is amended.colchar 13:35, 11 May 2006 —Preceding
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Malaysiais located near Australia. South East Asia (near indonesia) whose strategic malaysia country sea-lane position brought trade and foreign influences that fundamentally influenced its history. Hindu India, the Islamic Middle East and Christian Europe to its west, and China and Japan with one of successive phases of outside influence, followed by the mid-twentieth century establishment of independence from foreign colonial powers. Hindu and Buddhist cultures imported from India dominated early Malaysian history. They reached their peak in the Sumatran-based Srivijaya civilization, whose influence extended through Sumatra, Java, the Malay Peninsula and much of Borneo from the 7th to the 14th centuries.
Although Muslims had passed through Malaysia as early as the tenth century, it was not until the 14th and 15th centuries that Islam first established itself on the Malayan Peninsular. The adoption of Islam by the fifteenth century saw the rise of number sultanates, the most prominent of which was the Melaka (Malacca). Islamic culture has had a profound influence on the Malay people, but has also been influenced by them. The Portuguese were the first European colonial powers to establish themselves in Malaysia, capturing Malacca in 1511, followed by the Dutch. However, it was the British, who after initially establishing bases at Jesselton, Kuching, Penang and Singapore, ultimately secured their hegemony across the territory that is now Malaysia. The Anglo-Dutch Treaty of 1824 defined the boundaries between British Malaya and the Netherlands East Indies (which became Indonesia). A fourth phase of foreign influence was immigration of Chinese and Indian workers to meet the needs of the colonial economy created by the British in the Malay Peninsula and Borneo.[1]
Japanese invasion during World War II ended British domination in Malaysia. The subsequent occupation from 1942 to 1945 unleashed nationalism in Malaya and Borneo. In the Peninsula, the Malayan Communist Party took up arms against the British. A tough military response was needed to end the insurgency and bring about the establishment of an independent, multi-racial Federation of Malaya in 1957. On 31 August 1963, the British territories in North Borneo and Singapore were granted independence and formed Malaysia with the Peninsular states on 16 September 1963. Approximately two years later, Singapore was expelled from the Federation. A confrontation with Indonesia occurred in the early-1960s. Race riots in 1969 led to the imposition of emergency rule, and a curtailment of political life and civil liberties which has never been fully reversed. Since 1970 the "National Front coalition" headed by United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) has governed Malaysia. Economic growth dramatically increased living standards by the 1990s. This growing prosperity helped minimise political discontent.[citation needed] Successive UMNO-dominated governments have promoted the use of the Malay language and carried out systematic positive discrimination and moderate apartheid in favour of Muslims, measures which cause great resentment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.82.3.197 ( talk) 09:09, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
This article desperately needs well referenced edits. Please do not add unsourced material. Monkeyassault ( talk) 06:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
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This edit brought to my attention that there does not appear to me mention of the official political and economic favouritism in Malaysia towards the Malays at the expense of large minority groups. I could be wrong as I have not read the article in depth for a few years, but if it is not included, then this is a big neutrality and accuracy problem that needs to be addressed. Other articles, say Malaysia, should also be checked as to how they cover this topic. Cheers -- Merbabu ( talk) 01:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
The "Modern Malaysia" section of the article speaks of Malaysia being effectively a one-party state, and DAP and PAS being unable to form an effective opposition coalition, in the present tense. Both are no longer true, following the 2008 elections. I lack the expertise to edit it properly, but somebody definitely should.-- 131.217.6.6 ( talk) 08:54, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
The graphic depicts a British flag in the background, but Britain was not the only power that colonised Malaysia - there were the Portuguese and Dutch before them, and the Japanese for a short while. It's rather one-sided and misleading. Any way we could change the graphic? 118.100.81.9 ( talk) 11:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
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This is unattributed copy/paste WP:CONTENTFORK of material from history of 20-point agreement. The subject is covered here. Any material there which is considered by consensus to be appropriate should be rewritten as prose and merged. Any copied/pasted material should be properly attributed per Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Begoon talk 08:24, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Begoon period formation of Malaysia is not malaysia history but also historical other country, and copyvio is not the issue, thanks Omdo ( talk) 00:49, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
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Collection of old documents, papers, books, articles on Malay history.
http://www.sabrizain.org/malaya/library/
http://www.sabrizain.org/malaya/
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==Citation== There is a huge amount of information at the article. While the information is accurate through my own independent reading of external source, the article requires substantial amount of citation to move up. If it has sufficient citation, this might be an FA material. __earth ( Talk) 12:29, 12 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Should we really include this much content of the Brunei/Philippines into the page? Maybe some parts can be kept with good reason but it feels like a bit of a stretch including this much content on a History of Malaysia page?
I will be changing the dating system on this article away from the biased, Christian based AD/BC to the common era system next week. This will bring the article into alignment with secular usage such as /info/en/?search=History_of_India. If you object, please state why you are ok with the biased system here. Eupnevma ( talk) 19:26, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
In the History of Ukraine, History of Italy and History of Germany, the first paragraph focuses on the history of the relevant region. In contrast, the Malaysian page starts with an uncited opinion about modern views on Malaysian history.
Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required suggests we should aim to improve a page whenever possible, so I am removing an uncited opinion in favor of a cited historical fact, but the edit leaves the first paragraph shorter than ideal. If someone is able to add more cited facts, please do so!
@ Danial Bass Could you expand on why you don't believe this change is an improvement? If the problem is that the new paragraph is too short, could you follow Wikipedia:Editing_policy#Try_to_fix_problems and improve the edit, rather than removing the change?
Taste of Independence ( talk) 09:37, 7 October 2023 (UTC)