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I don't know how to properly type out the pronunciation of his family name. Syllabically, it's ma-tsu-i, not mat-soo-i. I know that's how the American sportcasters pronounce it, but they are wrong. -- Feitclub 06:32, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)
How about "mah-TSEW-ē". Ken6en 04:47, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
There's a lot of data on the data chart that will go out of date every year. Maybe it would be better to use absolute dates instead, e.g. birthday instead of age. Ken6en 04:47, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Hideki Matsui was born in Komatsu. I've been to the museum. (anonymous)
Intentional walk itself was not uncommon in then Japan.-- Extrahitz 09:20, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I deleted this paragraph because I failed to find relevance to this article:
"Some years ago, Matsui was quoted by a Japanese newspaper, "I do not like women who smoke." It is generally believed that he was referring to actress Takako Matsu, who although not known as such is a heavy smoker."
If the world would like to remember Matsui for this quote above all other things he has said, someone in the future can restore it to the article. - User:Abisai
Time Asia is a well respected magazine and is held to the same standards as Time in the U.S. Look at an archive of their magazines here:
http://www.time.com/time/asia/archive/
You will find that these issues look very much Time and share no resemblance to tabloids. If you believe that Time Asia is a tabloid, how about posting some links, references, or other evidence of this please. Furthermore, Robert Whiting who reports on Matsui's adult video collection is a well-respected author and journalist. Whiting has published in the New York Time, Sports Illustrated, The Smithsonian, Time, and US News and World Report, and has written several successful books on contemporary Japanese culture. He is not at all a "gossip columnist" by any means, and you can see his Wiki page here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Whiting
I also find it funny how Robert Whiting is referenced in references 1 - 5 and no one complains that these are "bad references" that are untrustworthy and removes the phrases that use them as references. So Robert Whiting can be trusted to report on Matsui in any way, shape, or form, except when it comes to his porn collection? He's a "tabloid gossip reporter" when it comes to reporting on Matsui's porn collection, but he's trustworthy when it comes to everything else? Please!
In short, whoever wrote the comments in the below paragraph is outright lying and has no references to support his or her position. It is a well known and accepted fact that Matsui does have a large porn collection, and if you're a moderator that has some personal "agenda" to censor this fact, you're probably breaking some terms of Wiki usage.
--TheTruth
From time to time someone adds a link or mentions an article from Time.com Asia edition in which Robert Whiting describes Matsui as a fan of "porno" movies. This article should not be taken seriously. Although Time is famous and respected in the US, it is not famous in Japan. If you check out Whiting, you'll find that he's basically a tabloid newspaper-type sensationalistic gossip writer. I suppose that due to the lack of English speaking reporters in Japan, Time had to resort to these kind of writers for material. In addition, gossip-type entertainment/sports newspapers are very popular in Japan (though not respected as legitamite journalism). The article makes it seem as if Matsui's alleged hobby is common knowledge in Japan, but this is not the case. If it was, it would be all over the media. Since Wikipedia is becoming quite well-known, it would be very irresponsible to allow information from gossip pages to be listed as "facts".
By the way, one user that keeps posting this gossip seems to be from an IP address registered to Lucent in Illinois. If it's a company IP address it's unbelievable that someone would be posting this kind of stuff from a tracable address within the company. If someone posted that IP on the Lucent wikipedia page, for example, lots of people in the company would probably see it and find out who it was. Ken6en 13:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I also took you up on your suggestion to "check out Robert Whiting" and
it doesn't appear at all that his is a "basically a tabloid
newspaper-type sensationalistic (sic) gossip writer."
Baseball-reference.com
(
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Robert_Whiting) refers to him
as "the foremost English-language writer about Nippon Pro Baseball," he
has written at least five award winning books about the subject,
(
http://www.hachettebookgroupusa.com/authors/55/2926/index.html) and
contributed to:
/The New York Times, The Smithsonian, Sports Illustrated, Newsweek, U.S. News/ and /World Report, Readers Digest, Sport/ and /Time/ Magazine. He is also one of the few Westerners to write a regular column in the Japanese press. From 1979-1985, he was a columnist for the Japanese language /Daily Sports./ From 1988 to 1992, he wrote a weekly column for the popular magazine /Shukan Asahi./ From 1990-1993, he was a reporter/commentator for News Station, the #1 rated news program in Japan. He has appeared in numerous documentaries about Japan and on such shows as CNN's Larry King Live, the PBS Macneil-Lehrer News Hour, Nightline, ESPN's Sports Central, HBO's Real Sports and All Things Considered
http://www.hachettebookgroupusa.com/authors/55/2926/index.html
Here is Whiting being interviewed by Boston.com (owned by the Boston Globe) about Daisuke Matsuzaka as a "Japanese Baseball Expert." http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/11/21/robert_whiting_daisuke_matsuzaka_chat_transcript/
In sum I don't see anything here that would support your allegations,
and a lot of evidence to the contrary.
Mjgilbert 16:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Which one is the exact link which proves that Matsui does this stuff? We understand your reasons, and they are justified but I don't know which one is the correct link for the trivia claim. 333cool 02:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
This is certainly important information to an encyclopedia. What a role model, eh? And if an announcer says Matsui's improving his "stroke", how will we know for sure what he means? Wahkeenah 17:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm siding on the side of removing this for a few reasons. One, it is very trivial in nature, and possibly a violation of WP:BLP which basically says "keep it out, unless it is thoroughly sourced". We have one guy writing about something in a second-hand manner, and that is not a good source for a controversial subject. Secondly, to quote the article, "extensive" is the words of one American writer whose eyes might pop out if he ever were to ride a subway in Japan with the rest of the "extensive" porn-wielding salarymen on their commute home. Anecdotal evidence of trading tapes does not automatically make Matsui into Larry Flynt. The whole point of those two half-paragraphs are that Matsui does not treat the porno as anything spectacular, and in fact, little evidence is supplied by the author that it IS anything spectacular. Rumors of the size of his, er, collection are just that -- rumors, and not encyclopedic. If there is a source that comments on the size of the collection, and that it qualifies for notability, then, we can revisit the issue. As it is, I don't think it qualifies for inclusion here. Neier 04:07, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
There is one argument for its being relevant. Look at the standings: The appropriately-named "Yank-me" ball club is 8 games back of the Red Sox and continuing to flirt with last place. So far, the Bombers are playing like a bunch of jerk-offs. And that's where the possible relevance of Matsui and his alleged traveling porn collection come in, don'cha know. Wahkeenah 04:13, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Does Matsui speak English? I used to assume he did, but then saw an article mention that he was using a translator to talk about whatever the article was about (I can't remember). Anybody know if he speaks English, or does speak some but not fluently enough and thus requires a translator at times? - albrozdude 22:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
He speaks very little English. On the Yankees radio network random Yankees say you're listening to the Yankees radio network. Matsui does it too. - Guest
I removed the Trivia section from the article, based on the guidance at WP:BLP#Trivia sections. The section is copied below, if anyone wants to try making any of it relevant, and weaving it into the rest of the article. Neier 23:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
The article states that Matsui's nickname was earned in Japan due to hitting power, but then cites a source that states, "But like the misunderstood monster Godzilla, whose coarse complexion prompted Matsui's nickname as a youngster, the left-handed power hitter has created a reputation for leaving chaos in his wake." Adambkny ( talk) 03:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. It was locked when I was about to add it. He is in yankees uniform. Onetwo1 00:08, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Matsui is no loner an outfielder, he is solely a designated hitter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonahlomunz ( talk • contribs) 21:10, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I personally don't know how to modify this, but it says that he bats ketchup and throws cheese. Is this someones attempt at humor? reichs435 ( talk) 14:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)reichs435
The "summary box" at the right gives his total career statistics in MLB in America. it should also list his career statistics for Japanese baseball, also in my opinion. Totally different leagues, statistics should not be added together, but the Japanese Statistics should also be listed. What I am suggesting is already done for Ichiro Suzuki Wfoj2 ( talk) 15:59, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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Per an article in The Daily Beast, he was the original choice of Yoshiro Mori to light the Olympic flame. May be worth including somewhere.
TOKYO—The 2020 Olympics delighted the world when, at the opening ceremony on July 23, biracial tennis superstar Naomi Osaka—with a rose-gold torch in her hand—lit the Olympic cauldron. But that wasn’t the original plan. According to Olympic insiders who spoke to The Daily Beast, disgraced former Tokyo Organizing Committee chair Yoshiro Mori was pushing to have someone else do the honors. “Mori wanted ‘Godzilla’ to light the Olympic flame at the end, not Naomi Osaka, ” an employee for the committee, who spoke on conditions of anonymity due to a punitive non-disclosure agreement, told The Daily Beast.
Adelstein, Jake (August 3, 2021). "Olympic Boss Wanted Flame Lit by 'Pure Japanese' Ex-Yankee Player, Not Osaka". The Daily Beast. Archived from the original on August 3, 2021.
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I don't know how to properly type out the pronunciation of his family name. Syllabically, it's ma-tsu-i, not mat-soo-i. I know that's how the American sportcasters pronounce it, but they are wrong. -- Feitclub 06:32, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)
How about "mah-TSEW-ē". Ken6en 04:47, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
There's a lot of data on the data chart that will go out of date every year. Maybe it would be better to use absolute dates instead, e.g. birthday instead of age. Ken6en 04:47, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Hideki Matsui was born in Komatsu. I've been to the museum. (anonymous)
Intentional walk itself was not uncommon in then Japan.-- Extrahitz 09:20, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I deleted this paragraph because I failed to find relevance to this article:
"Some years ago, Matsui was quoted by a Japanese newspaper, "I do not like women who smoke." It is generally believed that he was referring to actress Takako Matsu, who although not known as such is a heavy smoker."
If the world would like to remember Matsui for this quote above all other things he has said, someone in the future can restore it to the article. - User:Abisai
Time Asia is a well respected magazine and is held to the same standards as Time in the U.S. Look at an archive of their magazines here:
http://www.time.com/time/asia/archive/
You will find that these issues look very much Time and share no resemblance to tabloids. If you believe that Time Asia is a tabloid, how about posting some links, references, or other evidence of this please. Furthermore, Robert Whiting who reports on Matsui's adult video collection is a well-respected author and journalist. Whiting has published in the New York Time, Sports Illustrated, The Smithsonian, Time, and US News and World Report, and has written several successful books on contemporary Japanese culture. He is not at all a "gossip columnist" by any means, and you can see his Wiki page here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Whiting
I also find it funny how Robert Whiting is referenced in references 1 - 5 and no one complains that these are "bad references" that are untrustworthy and removes the phrases that use them as references. So Robert Whiting can be trusted to report on Matsui in any way, shape, or form, except when it comes to his porn collection? He's a "tabloid gossip reporter" when it comes to reporting on Matsui's porn collection, but he's trustworthy when it comes to everything else? Please!
In short, whoever wrote the comments in the below paragraph is outright lying and has no references to support his or her position. It is a well known and accepted fact that Matsui does have a large porn collection, and if you're a moderator that has some personal "agenda" to censor this fact, you're probably breaking some terms of Wiki usage.
--TheTruth
From time to time someone adds a link or mentions an article from Time.com Asia edition in which Robert Whiting describes Matsui as a fan of "porno" movies. This article should not be taken seriously. Although Time is famous and respected in the US, it is not famous in Japan. If you check out Whiting, you'll find that he's basically a tabloid newspaper-type sensationalistic gossip writer. I suppose that due to the lack of English speaking reporters in Japan, Time had to resort to these kind of writers for material. In addition, gossip-type entertainment/sports newspapers are very popular in Japan (though not respected as legitamite journalism). The article makes it seem as if Matsui's alleged hobby is common knowledge in Japan, but this is not the case. If it was, it would be all over the media. Since Wikipedia is becoming quite well-known, it would be very irresponsible to allow information from gossip pages to be listed as "facts".
By the way, one user that keeps posting this gossip seems to be from an IP address registered to Lucent in Illinois. If it's a company IP address it's unbelievable that someone would be posting this kind of stuff from a tracable address within the company. If someone posted that IP on the Lucent wikipedia page, for example, lots of people in the company would probably see it and find out who it was. Ken6en 13:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I also took you up on your suggestion to "check out Robert Whiting" and
it doesn't appear at all that his is a "basically a tabloid
newspaper-type sensationalistic (sic) gossip writer."
Baseball-reference.com
(
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Robert_Whiting) refers to him
as "the foremost English-language writer about Nippon Pro Baseball," he
has written at least five award winning books about the subject,
(
http://www.hachettebookgroupusa.com/authors/55/2926/index.html) and
contributed to:
/The New York Times, The Smithsonian, Sports Illustrated, Newsweek, U.S. News/ and /World Report, Readers Digest, Sport/ and /Time/ Magazine. He is also one of the few Westerners to write a regular column in the Japanese press. From 1979-1985, he was a columnist for the Japanese language /Daily Sports./ From 1988 to 1992, he wrote a weekly column for the popular magazine /Shukan Asahi./ From 1990-1993, he was a reporter/commentator for News Station, the #1 rated news program in Japan. He has appeared in numerous documentaries about Japan and on such shows as CNN's Larry King Live, the PBS Macneil-Lehrer News Hour, Nightline, ESPN's Sports Central, HBO's Real Sports and All Things Considered
http://www.hachettebookgroupusa.com/authors/55/2926/index.html
Here is Whiting being interviewed by Boston.com (owned by the Boston Globe) about Daisuke Matsuzaka as a "Japanese Baseball Expert." http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/11/21/robert_whiting_daisuke_matsuzaka_chat_transcript/
In sum I don't see anything here that would support your allegations,
and a lot of evidence to the contrary.
Mjgilbert 16:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Which one is the exact link which proves that Matsui does this stuff? We understand your reasons, and they are justified but I don't know which one is the correct link for the trivia claim. 333cool 02:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
This is certainly important information to an encyclopedia. What a role model, eh? And if an announcer says Matsui's improving his "stroke", how will we know for sure what he means? Wahkeenah 17:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm siding on the side of removing this for a few reasons. One, it is very trivial in nature, and possibly a violation of WP:BLP which basically says "keep it out, unless it is thoroughly sourced". We have one guy writing about something in a second-hand manner, and that is not a good source for a controversial subject. Secondly, to quote the article, "extensive" is the words of one American writer whose eyes might pop out if he ever were to ride a subway in Japan with the rest of the "extensive" porn-wielding salarymen on their commute home. Anecdotal evidence of trading tapes does not automatically make Matsui into Larry Flynt. The whole point of those two half-paragraphs are that Matsui does not treat the porno as anything spectacular, and in fact, little evidence is supplied by the author that it IS anything spectacular. Rumors of the size of his, er, collection are just that -- rumors, and not encyclopedic. If there is a source that comments on the size of the collection, and that it qualifies for notability, then, we can revisit the issue. As it is, I don't think it qualifies for inclusion here. Neier 04:07, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
There is one argument for its being relevant. Look at the standings: The appropriately-named "Yank-me" ball club is 8 games back of the Red Sox and continuing to flirt with last place. So far, the Bombers are playing like a bunch of jerk-offs. And that's where the possible relevance of Matsui and his alleged traveling porn collection come in, don'cha know. Wahkeenah 04:13, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Does Matsui speak English? I used to assume he did, but then saw an article mention that he was using a translator to talk about whatever the article was about (I can't remember). Anybody know if he speaks English, or does speak some but not fluently enough and thus requires a translator at times? - albrozdude 22:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
He speaks very little English. On the Yankees radio network random Yankees say you're listening to the Yankees radio network. Matsui does it too. - Guest
I removed the Trivia section from the article, based on the guidance at WP:BLP#Trivia sections. The section is copied below, if anyone wants to try making any of it relevant, and weaving it into the rest of the article. Neier 23:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
The article states that Matsui's nickname was earned in Japan due to hitting power, but then cites a source that states, "But like the misunderstood monster Godzilla, whose coarse complexion prompted Matsui's nickname as a youngster, the left-handed power hitter has created a reputation for leaving chaos in his wake." Adambkny ( talk) 03:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. It was locked when I was about to add it. He is in yankees uniform. Onetwo1 00:08, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Matsui is no loner an outfielder, he is solely a designated hitter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonahlomunz ( talk • contribs) 21:10, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
I personally don't know how to modify this, but it says that he bats ketchup and throws cheese. Is this someones attempt at humor? reichs435 ( talk) 14:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)reichs435
The "summary box" at the right gives his total career statistics in MLB in America. it should also list his career statistics for Japanese baseball, also in my opinion. Totally different leagues, statistics should not be added together, but the Japanese Statistics should also be listed. What I am suggesting is already done for Ichiro Suzuki Wfoj2 ( talk) 15:59, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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Per an article in The Daily Beast, he was the original choice of Yoshiro Mori to light the Olympic flame. May be worth including somewhere.
TOKYO—The 2020 Olympics delighted the world when, at the opening ceremony on July 23, biracial tennis superstar Naomi Osaka—with a rose-gold torch in her hand—lit the Olympic cauldron. But that wasn’t the original plan. According to Olympic insiders who spoke to The Daily Beast, disgraced former Tokyo Organizing Committee chair Yoshiro Mori was pushing to have someone else do the honors. “Mori wanted ‘Godzilla’ to light the Olympic flame at the end, not Naomi Osaka, ” an employee for the committee, who spoke on conditions of anonymity due to a punitive non-disclosure agreement, told The Daily Beast.
Adelstein, Jake (August 3, 2021). "Olympic Boss Wanted Flame Lit by 'Pure Japanese' Ex-Yankee Player, Not Osaka". The Daily Beast. Archived from the original on August 3, 2021.