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I added a significant section on risk aversion. Totorotroll removed a sentence from the introduction about harm (which I hadn't written): "These parents rush to prevent any harm or failure from befalling them and will not let them learn from their own mistakes, sometimes even contrary to the children's wishes."
I think that the term "helicopter parent" may overlap ambiguously with several areas, i.e. "overparenting" and perhaps other names. It contrasts with "free range kids", "the idle parent". These terms may not all describe exactly the same concepts.
I live in Scotland. Can anyone else confirm or deny that avoiding harm and risk is a key part of helicopter parenting? I believe it is, and I'd suggest keeping that sentence in.
them or simply make all the risky decisions ourselves it would be better to adopt an approach that briefs the students fully on the nature of their situation and gives them the skills and resources to manage them for themselves. This is, after all, how we all get to learn to cross the road." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rixs ( talk • contribs) 12:51, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
The link for citation 2 no longer seems to be valid
The following sentence in the article makes no sense; some text seems to be missing:
David Hoag 23:27, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Yes, it was an error. "point" is missing. Will fix. Daniel Case 02:36, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
I must say, this page seems painfully Americentric, even though this is a parenting trait I've observed in other countries. In my first year of university in Australia, I've noticed some parents (thankfully not my own!) possessing traits described in this article, and the same for folks I know back in New Zealand. The actual term 'helicopter parent' is not something I've seen used (not even in American publications or amongst my American friends), but the behavioural pattern certainly is not just limited to the US. So could someone give this a bit more of an international, less Americentric approach? This is Wikipedia, not Ameripedia.
Also, please call tertiary institutions 'university', as the term is less ambiguous. 'College' to a New Zealander such as myself refers to secondary school. - Axver 11:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I must say that it always shocks me when I go to US college websites and find a section called "parents". In Canada, everything is geared toward students. Is the "parents" section a recent development? -- Westendgirl 03:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
An identical phenomenon has developed over the last decade in Israel where parents are more and more invested and involved in their child’s military service: http://www.army.co.il/army/forum_articles.asp?Fnumber=25&ArticleID=63 (Sorry its in Hebrew, couldn't find one in English) The phenomenon has parents calling their sons' commanders, complaining in their name, fighting for better service conditions (prior to enlistment), over-use of cell phones, etc. This too is often against the will of the son / daughter. The point is: Israeli mandatory military service is for ages 18-21, the equivalent of American College, most Israeli soldiers also live at their parents house, and there is the result of the same over-involvement. The article displays the phenomenon as something specifically to do with Collage, while it is probably more general and widespread, having less to do with College-specific reasons. DuckeJ 15:44, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Suburban Express employees have indicated that the ban is due to excessive parent participation in the bus ticket purchase process when cellular phones are in play
Provide a source, please. If this is something they said to you, we can't use it. If it's written down somewhere, cite it.
If there is none within seven days, I'm parking it here. Daniel Case 01:15, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
The drinking age has not only been raised to 21 in every state but enforced vigorously in many of them.
What does this have to do with the article, much less explain the behavior in question? The drinking age was increased to 21 well before this phenomenon was recognized. - Pjorg 18:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Mind you, this doesn't alone explain the phenomenon, but in combination with other factors increasing parental involvement in the college experience, it contributes.
Daniel Case 22:37, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, I went to college in the 1960s, well before under 21 legal drinking, and there were plenty of beer busts and other under age drinking. There was even some of this among high school students. I doubt this has much to do with the phenominum discussed here. Wschart ( talk) 18:15, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
There is a lot of controversy, and understandably so, about the use of "helicopter parent" as a stereotype to sneer at parents someone thinks are over-involved. I was never a helicopter parent but according to a scientific study quoted in the Washington Post and Inside Higher Ed such parents have many benefits for their kids. Anecdotal evidence from friends on the faculty at Harvard and MIT is that many, many of these high-achieving students have pesky helicopter parents, whose "over-involvement" has produced some wonderful kids. betsythedevine 19:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
This concept is very well-known in Sweden under the name curlingförälder ("curling parent"). In Denmark, it appears that curlingbarn ("curling child") is more common. The article should definitely try to include information about this phenomenon as it occurs outside of the English-speaking world.
Peter Isotalo 10:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
The term 'helicopter parents' brings to mind the dreaded 'kyo iku mama' in Japan... 192.206.151.130 ( talk) 15:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Speaking of which, this page is erroneously cross-referenced with the Japanese "monster parent" page, which is NOT the same thing as a helicopter parent. The above commenter refers to the "kyoiku mama", which is definitely the correct translation. The former "monster parent" makes unreasonable, selfish demands on the school (typically in elementary). This is based on personal experience as a teacher for the last eight years in Japan, two of which were spent rotating through fifteen elementary schools in Izumi, Osaka. 58.95.145.125 ( talk) 14:19, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Of course, I don't speak Japanese so I certainly wouldn't understand. If there's a more appropriate corresponding article in the Japanese Wikipedia, feel free to change the link. Daniel Case ( talk) 17:01, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
zobango is my user name when i'm logged in. I just think the article needs some cleanup, but i couldn't find the general cleanup template —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.240.0.213 ( talk) 22:05, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
I've stricken the following sentence from the Origins section:
That's an unsupported analysis of the Act and puts undue emphasis on that (apparent) intent/application of it--implies FERPA keeps parents in the loop. FERPA explicitly prohibits the sharing of many types of information about college students with their parents. DMacks ( talk) 12:05, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
The following references were deleted by User:ElKevbo. It might be worth putting them back in if there's a good reason:
-- Rixs ( talk) 09:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
The article says the term was coined in 1990. Is it fair to refer to it as a 21st century term? 24.4.132.252 ( talk) 01:33, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Where is this term "cosseting parent" actually used? =//= Johnny Squeaky 23:08, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Two of the links in the external links section take me to a page that doesn't exist anymore. The one remaining link, the wall street journal one, it doesn't take me to the article mentioned. I don't edit wikipedia much, so I'm not sure what to do about it other than mentioning it here.-- 137.104.190.106 ( talk) 21:17, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I suppose I should do this myself. But thanks for the catch! Daniel Case ( talk) 02:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I propose merging the Monster parents article into this article. Currently, this article mainly deals with the United States viewpoint, while the Monster parents article mainly deals with the Japanese or East Asian (e.g. Hong Kong) viewpoint. The Japanese and Chinese versions of the article (the interwiki linked articles) mainly deal with the Monster parents article, but contain a brief mention of the Helicopter parent article. Since these topics are broadly equivalent, a merger may be appropriate. sst✈ (conjugate) 03:33, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
I cannot, however, yet get the Chinese article translated. Daniel Case ( talk) 01:11, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
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If there a reference for text which says helicopter parents are also referred to as cosseting parents or cosseters? This has apparently been in the opening sentence of the lead for some time, but it's not in body of article and I cannot find a ref for this. -- DynaGirl ( talk) 14:42, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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Is there any information on whether helicopter parenting is more closely associated with those who are only children or are oldest children? Reeseash ( talk) 01:30, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
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I added a significant section on risk aversion. Totorotroll removed a sentence from the introduction about harm (which I hadn't written): "These parents rush to prevent any harm or failure from befalling them and will not let them learn from their own mistakes, sometimes even contrary to the children's wishes."
I think that the term "helicopter parent" may overlap ambiguously with several areas, i.e. "overparenting" and perhaps other names. It contrasts with "free range kids", "the idle parent". These terms may not all describe exactly the same concepts.
I live in Scotland. Can anyone else confirm or deny that avoiding harm and risk is a key part of helicopter parenting? I believe it is, and I'd suggest keeping that sentence in.
them or simply make all the risky decisions ourselves it would be better to adopt an approach that briefs the students fully on the nature of their situation and gives them the skills and resources to manage them for themselves. This is, after all, how we all get to learn to cross the road." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rixs ( talk • contribs) 12:51, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
The link for citation 2 no longer seems to be valid
The following sentence in the article makes no sense; some text seems to be missing:
David Hoag 23:27, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Yes, it was an error. "point" is missing. Will fix. Daniel Case 02:36, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
I must say, this page seems painfully Americentric, even though this is a parenting trait I've observed in other countries. In my first year of university in Australia, I've noticed some parents (thankfully not my own!) possessing traits described in this article, and the same for folks I know back in New Zealand. The actual term 'helicopter parent' is not something I've seen used (not even in American publications or amongst my American friends), but the behavioural pattern certainly is not just limited to the US. So could someone give this a bit more of an international, less Americentric approach? This is Wikipedia, not Ameripedia.
Also, please call tertiary institutions 'university', as the term is less ambiguous. 'College' to a New Zealander such as myself refers to secondary school. - Axver 11:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I must say that it always shocks me when I go to US college websites and find a section called "parents". In Canada, everything is geared toward students. Is the "parents" section a recent development? -- Westendgirl 03:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
An identical phenomenon has developed over the last decade in Israel where parents are more and more invested and involved in their child’s military service: http://www.army.co.il/army/forum_articles.asp?Fnumber=25&ArticleID=63 (Sorry its in Hebrew, couldn't find one in English) The phenomenon has parents calling their sons' commanders, complaining in their name, fighting for better service conditions (prior to enlistment), over-use of cell phones, etc. This too is often against the will of the son / daughter. The point is: Israeli mandatory military service is for ages 18-21, the equivalent of American College, most Israeli soldiers also live at their parents house, and there is the result of the same over-involvement. The article displays the phenomenon as something specifically to do with Collage, while it is probably more general and widespread, having less to do with College-specific reasons. DuckeJ 15:44, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Suburban Express employees have indicated that the ban is due to excessive parent participation in the bus ticket purchase process when cellular phones are in play
Provide a source, please. If this is something they said to you, we can't use it. If it's written down somewhere, cite it.
If there is none within seven days, I'm parking it here. Daniel Case 01:15, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
The drinking age has not only been raised to 21 in every state but enforced vigorously in many of them.
What does this have to do with the article, much less explain the behavior in question? The drinking age was increased to 21 well before this phenomenon was recognized. - Pjorg 18:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Mind you, this doesn't alone explain the phenomenon, but in combination with other factors increasing parental involvement in the college experience, it contributes.
Daniel Case 22:37, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, I went to college in the 1960s, well before under 21 legal drinking, and there were plenty of beer busts and other under age drinking. There was even some of this among high school students. I doubt this has much to do with the phenominum discussed here. Wschart ( talk) 18:15, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
There is a lot of controversy, and understandably so, about the use of "helicopter parent" as a stereotype to sneer at parents someone thinks are over-involved. I was never a helicopter parent but according to a scientific study quoted in the Washington Post and Inside Higher Ed such parents have many benefits for their kids. Anecdotal evidence from friends on the faculty at Harvard and MIT is that many, many of these high-achieving students have pesky helicopter parents, whose "over-involvement" has produced some wonderful kids. betsythedevine 19:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
This concept is very well-known in Sweden under the name curlingförälder ("curling parent"). In Denmark, it appears that curlingbarn ("curling child") is more common. The article should definitely try to include information about this phenomenon as it occurs outside of the English-speaking world.
Peter Isotalo 10:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
The term 'helicopter parents' brings to mind the dreaded 'kyo iku mama' in Japan... 192.206.151.130 ( talk) 15:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Speaking of which, this page is erroneously cross-referenced with the Japanese "monster parent" page, which is NOT the same thing as a helicopter parent. The above commenter refers to the "kyoiku mama", which is definitely the correct translation. The former "monster parent" makes unreasonable, selfish demands on the school (typically in elementary). This is based on personal experience as a teacher for the last eight years in Japan, two of which were spent rotating through fifteen elementary schools in Izumi, Osaka. 58.95.145.125 ( talk) 14:19, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Of course, I don't speak Japanese so I certainly wouldn't understand. If there's a more appropriate corresponding article in the Japanese Wikipedia, feel free to change the link. Daniel Case ( talk) 17:01, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
zobango is my user name when i'm logged in. I just think the article needs some cleanup, but i couldn't find the general cleanup template —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.240.0.213 ( talk) 22:05, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
I've stricken the following sentence from the Origins section:
That's an unsupported analysis of the Act and puts undue emphasis on that (apparent) intent/application of it--implies FERPA keeps parents in the loop. FERPA explicitly prohibits the sharing of many types of information about college students with their parents. DMacks ( talk) 12:05, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
The following references were deleted by User:ElKevbo. It might be worth putting them back in if there's a good reason:
-- Rixs ( talk) 09:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
The article says the term was coined in 1990. Is it fair to refer to it as a 21st century term? 24.4.132.252 ( talk) 01:33, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Where is this term "cosseting parent" actually used? =//= Johnny Squeaky 23:08, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Two of the links in the external links section take me to a page that doesn't exist anymore. The one remaining link, the wall street journal one, it doesn't take me to the article mentioned. I don't edit wikipedia much, so I'm not sure what to do about it other than mentioning it here.-- 137.104.190.106 ( talk) 21:17, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I suppose I should do this myself. But thanks for the catch! Daniel Case ( talk) 02:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I propose merging the Monster parents article into this article. Currently, this article mainly deals with the United States viewpoint, while the Monster parents article mainly deals with the Japanese or East Asian (e.g. Hong Kong) viewpoint. The Japanese and Chinese versions of the article (the interwiki linked articles) mainly deal with the Monster parents article, but contain a brief mention of the Helicopter parent article. Since these topics are broadly equivalent, a merger may be appropriate. sst✈ (conjugate) 03:33, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
I cannot, however, yet get the Chinese article translated. Daniel Case ( talk) 01:11, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
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If there a reference for text which says helicopter parents are also referred to as cosseting parents or cosseters? This has apparently been in the opening sentence of the lead for some time, but it's not in body of article and I cannot find a ref for this. -- DynaGirl ( talk) 14:42, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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Is there any information on whether helicopter parenting is more closely associated with those who are only children or are oldest children? Reeseash ( talk) 01:30, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
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