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---Huh?--- Isn't the date off by one? According to the current table, 1998 is ten years after 1989, which doesn't sound right... 24.8.186.11
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Regarding the sentence "The name was introduced by Akihito"
According to my recollection, the name was introduced by Keizo Obuchi. At the time, he held a Cabinet post. Might have been Chief Cabinet Secretary. Before he became Prime Minister.
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From 65.4.251.55 on 22:40, 2 Jun 2004: If anyone knows a good English translation of Heisei, then please post it on this site by clicking on "Edit."
The native Japanese calendar is dated by the ruling emperor, and formally we don't know who will be a ruler in, say, 2001, therefore the Japanese (name of the) date is formally unknown.
The question is: how japanese handle future dates, e.g., year 3127, which is very unlikely to be in heisei era?
The question arose because an anon editor user:59.112.168.151 edits the year artilces ( 2024, etc.) and changes "Japanese calendar" date from " Heisei NN" to "unknown" and othere editors revert him. `' mikka (t) 15:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
The result of this discussion must be posted in Template talk:Year in other calendars as a "micropolicy" about this template. And also explained in articles " Japanese calendar" and " Heisei". `' mikka (t) 15:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I think it's fine to refer to fairly near future years as "Heisei XX" as it's safe to assume the current emperor would still be alive then. If we get too far into the future, though, I think it should be left blank. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon jo e 15:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Alright, I think that I have figured it out:
Here are my reasons, which summarizes and backs up with some hard data many arguments already made:
To summarize my summary, then:
I am not even sure how relevant this debate is to the English Wikipedia, and I have some SERIOUS doubts about its importance but I just spent a lot of time and thought trying (successfully, I think) to find an objective solution. I don't know much about Japanese culture nor the language and have no vested interest in the outcome of this question; although my lack of knowledge made my search for a solution more difficult, I don't think my argument is any less valid.
-- Dave Runger (t)⁄ (c) 04:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the 時代 from the Japanese at the beginning of the article. 平成時代 is more properly the equivalent of "Heisei era" or "Heisei period". -- RJCraig 05:13, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello, can somebody please change the page that the infobox on the right side is not rendered over the last few entries in the table at the bottom of the page anymore? Thanks 87.162.110.162 ( talk) 18:45, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
This page doesn't depict the innovations and inventions created during the Heisei period, like the QR-code, DVD & Blu-Ray (with foreigh coorperation), Gemini (the Android) and many others. There are meny well-sourced places for this information this article only looks at the economic faillures and make the entire Heisei period look like one long epic FAIL!!! while the Japanese have made many innovations wothy of mention. -- 82.134.154.25 ( talk) 19:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
I agree with this comment! I've never submitted a comment to a Talk page before, usually I just add or subtract commas and fix typos when I see them, but I was/am bothered by the complete absence of even one positive event in this "history". I really wish I could contribute more than a complaint here, but my usual resource for that kind of information is (you saw this coming, didn't you?) Wikipedia, of course. Didn't the Emperor win some recognition for contributions to science in the field of Marine Biology or Oceanography? Maybe some information about his heir, since this is partly about succession? I'll see what I can find, but I'm just a kimono aficionado and not much of a resource for this article. Kkved ( talk) 22:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
In the opening para it says "Hirohito was posthumously renamed "Emperor Shōwa" on 31 January." That's surely incorrect because Hirohito was always referred to during his life as Showa Tenno" when he wasn't being referred to simply as "tenno heika" and was never referred to as "Hirohito" by anyone other than gaijin. Unless I can find some evidence for this posthumous stuff, I'm going to delete it. -- gilgongo ( talk) 18:28, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
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Is there a source for this claim. (No doubt it has been "copied everywhere" by now) -- 87.173.208.171 ( talk) 13:17, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
To clarify, Naruhito's reign is scheduled to begin on April 30, 2019, while his own era will begin on May 1, 2019. GoodDay ( talk) 16:47, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
I renewed the redirect message for the article Akihito. It sounds very impolite to say at public places what a person is to be posthumously called, regardless of the person's social status. Japan formally has no universal rule of how an emperor is called after passing away. -- Dumpty-Humpty ( talk) 19:44, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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On 7 December 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Heisei to Heisei era. The result of the discussion was moved. |
---Huh?--- Isn't the date off by one? According to the current table, 1998 is ten years after 1989, which doesn't sound right... 24.8.186.11
---
Regarding the sentence "The name was introduced by Akihito"
According to my recollection, the name was introduced by Keizo Obuchi. At the time, he held a Cabinet post. Might have been Chief Cabinet Secretary. Before he became Prime Minister.
Contributors to Modern Japan (Article merged; Some merged with [[ Post-Occupation Japan]] as well)
From 65.4.251.55 on 22:40, 2 Jun 2004: If anyone knows a good English translation of Heisei, then please post it on this site by clicking on "Edit."
The native Japanese calendar is dated by the ruling emperor, and formally we don't know who will be a ruler in, say, 2001, therefore the Japanese (name of the) date is formally unknown.
The question is: how japanese handle future dates, e.g., year 3127, which is very unlikely to be in heisei era?
The question arose because an anon editor user:59.112.168.151 edits the year artilces ( 2024, etc.) and changes "Japanese calendar" date from " Heisei NN" to "unknown" and othere editors revert him. `' mikka (t) 15:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
The result of this discussion must be posted in Template talk:Year in other calendars as a "micropolicy" about this template. And also explained in articles " Japanese calendar" and " Heisei". `' mikka (t) 15:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I think it's fine to refer to fairly near future years as "Heisei XX" as it's safe to assume the current emperor would still be alive then. If we get too far into the future, though, I think it should be left blank. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon jo e 15:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Alright, I think that I have figured it out:
Here are my reasons, which summarizes and backs up with some hard data many arguments already made:
To summarize my summary, then:
I am not even sure how relevant this debate is to the English Wikipedia, and I have some SERIOUS doubts about its importance but I just spent a lot of time and thought trying (successfully, I think) to find an objective solution. I don't know much about Japanese culture nor the language and have no vested interest in the outcome of this question; although my lack of knowledge made my search for a solution more difficult, I don't think my argument is any less valid.
-- Dave Runger (t)⁄ (c) 04:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the 時代 from the Japanese at the beginning of the article. 平成時代 is more properly the equivalent of "Heisei era" or "Heisei period". -- RJCraig 05:13, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello, can somebody please change the page that the infobox on the right side is not rendered over the last few entries in the table at the bottom of the page anymore? Thanks 87.162.110.162 ( talk) 18:45, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
This page doesn't depict the innovations and inventions created during the Heisei period, like the QR-code, DVD & Blu-Ray (with foreigh coorperation), Gemini (the Android) and many others. There are meny well-sourced places for this information this article only looks at the economic faillures and make the entire Heisei period look like one long epic FAIL!!! while the Japanese have made many innovations wothy of mention. -- 82.134.154.25 ( talk) 19:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
I agree with this comment! I've never submitted a comment to a Talk page before, usually I just add or subtract commas and fix typos when I see them, but I was/am bothered by the complete absence of even one positive event in this "history". I really wish I could contribute more than a complaint here, but my usual resource for that kind of information is (you saw this coming, didn't you?) Wikipedia, of course. Didn't the Emperor win some recognition for contributions to science in the field of Marine Biology or Oceanography? Maybe some information about his heir, since this is partly about succession? I'll see what I can find, but I'm just a kimono aficionado and not much of a resource for this article. Kkved ( talk) 22:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
In the opening para it says "Hirohito was posthumously renamed "Emperor Shōwa" on 31 January." That's surely incorrect because Hirohito was always referred to during his life as Showa Tenno" when he wasn't being referred to simply as "tenno heika" and was never referred to as "Hirohito" by anyone other than gaijin. Unless I can find some evidence for this posthumous stuff, I'm going to delete it. -- gilgongo ( talk) 18:28, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
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Is there a source for this claim. (No doubt it has been "copied everywhere" by now) -- 87.173.208.171 ( talk) 13:17, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
To clarify, Naruhito's reign is scheduled to begin on April 30, 2019, while his own era will begin on May 1, 2019. GoodDay ( talk) 16:47, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
I renewed the redirect message for the article Akihito. It sounds very impolite to say at public places what a person is to be posthumously called, regardless of the person's social status. Japan formally has no universal rule of how an emperor is called after passing away. -- Dumpty-Humpty ( talk) 19:44, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Reiwa period which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 03:20, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Mdaniels5757 ( talk • contribs) 01:12, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
– To conform to the article names of the Meiji, Taishō, and Shōwa eras' respective English Wikipedia articles. ArguaBILL ( talk) 07:10, 6 December 2022 (UTC) This is a contested technical request ( permalink). – robertsky ( talk) 18:21, 7 December 2022 (UTC)