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This link reveals Gerard Butler telling the plot of Angel Has Fallen. BattleshipMan ( talk) 16:09, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
BattleshipMan, DisneyMetalhead, what sources use Has Fallen? And what is the source of the "official film series logo"? Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 15:49, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
The title was decided on prior to when I made the article. It was a title that had been used years ago when the third film was initially announced. Also the Has Fallen title has been used before in several places such as here for example.-- DisneyMetalhead ( talk) 06:29, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. ( non-admin closure) Iffy★ Chat -- 14:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Has Fallen (film series) →
Olympus Has Fallen (film series) – No source calls the series "Has Fallen", where sources call it "Olympus Has Fallen". Already discussed on talk page and convinced other involved editor to make this move.
Erik (
talk |
contrib) (
ping me)
11:40, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
This film series has been referred by multiple reliable sources as the Fallen film series. This can be viewed |here and |here. These are far more accurate than the current title. Though Has Fallen was the "logical choice" a while back, the only title that it has been referred to by reliable sources is the Fallen film series. I am moving the page to this.-- DisneyMetalhead ( talk) 03:06, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
It's been over a year, and no other users have stated their insight. However, in Deadline's most recent announcement regarding the fourth film - they repeatedly call this series "the Has Fallen" franchise/film series. Is there anyone opposed to this move?-- DisneyMetalhead ( talk) 17:27, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
References
The result of the move request was: No consensus. ( non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 10:53, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Fallen (film series) →
Has Fallen (film series) – The recent news source related to that movie series from the news source Deadline called it Has Fallen as you can see it
here. This page should be renamed to
Has Fallen (film series) because of that.
BattleshipMan (
talk)
16:04, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved ( non-admin closure) — Amkgp 💬 15:41, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Fallen (film series) → Has Fallen – Per discussion above, there are reliable sources calling the film series Has Fallen, such as Deadline Hollywood here. Furthermore, it is an improvement in being closer to the individual films' titles and further from the two unrelated films called Fallen. It is also a more natural and more concise article title. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 19:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
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TBA means To Be Announced. TBA as the name suggests is an appropriate template to use for information that is not yet available, but is expected to be available. (For example:
Metacritic score of a major upcoming film might be TBA.)
NA means Not Applicable, or Not Available. (For example: A small film that is not even listed at Metacritic: Not Available.)
Words have meaning. Templates can have underlying semantic meaning. It is better to use the template with the right meaning.
There are templates for both {{ TBA}} and {{ NA}}. Some editors have been using {{ NA}} and then changing to the label to TBA {{NA|TBA}}. It is not clear why anyone would deliberately choose not to use the correct available template. I do not believe there is any good reason for doing this. If there is a valid reason for doing this I would be interested to see the editors explain themselves.
When I corrected this usage I was reverted, and an editor claimed it was "fine" and noted that other article were doing this too but we can do better than fine and use the right template.
TBA indicates a belief that information will be available in future, this suggests potential for improvement. NA indicates that the information is not available, it does not suggest that editors should try and check for new information and try to update the field. There is also {{ cEmpty}} for empty cells, which is neutral. Using the wrong template can be misleading. Please try to use the right template. -- 109.78.198.204 ( talk) 20:52, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
@ Erik: Does this count as a reliable source?
https://moviesr.net/p-gerard-butler-to-star-in-tv-series-paris-has-fallen-filming-begins-this-summer
BattleshipMan ( talk) 01:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
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This link reveals Gerard Butler telling the plot of Angel Has Fallen. BattleshipMan ( talk) 16:09, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
BattleshipMan, DisneyMetalhead, what sources use Has Fallen? And what is the source of the "official film series logo"? Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 15:49, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
The title was decided on prior to when I made the article. It was a title that had been used years ago when the third film was initially announced. Also the Has Fallen title has been used before in several places such as here for example.-- DisneyMetalhead ( talk) 06:29, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. ( non-admin closure) Iffy★ Chat -- 14:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Has Fallen (film series) →
Olympus Has Fallen (film series) – No source calls the series "Has Fallen", where sources call it "Olympus Has Fallen". Already discussed on talk page and convinced other involved editor to make this move.
Erik (
talk |
contrib) (
ping me)
11:40, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
This film series has been referred by multiple reliable sources as the Fallen film series. This can be viewed |here and |here. These are far more accurate than the current title. Though Has Fallen was the "logical choice" a while back, the only title that it has been referred to by reliable sources is the Fallen film series. I am moving the page to this.-- DisneyMetalhead ( talk) 03:06, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
It's been over a year, and no other users have stated their insight. However, in Deadline's most recent announcement regarding the fourth film - they repeatedly call this series "the Has Fallen" franchise/film series. Is there anyone opposed to this move?-- DisneyMetalhead ( talk) 17:27, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
References
The result of the move request was: No consensus. ( non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 10:53, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Fallen (film series) →
Has Fallen (film series) – The recent news source related to that movie series from the news source Deadline called it Has Fallen as you can see it
here. This page should be renamed to
Has Fallen (film series) because of that.
BattleshipMan (
talk)
16:04, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved ( non-admin closure) — Amkgp 💬 15:41, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Fallen (film series) → Has Fallen – Per discussion above, there are reliable sources calling the film series Has Fallen, such as Deadline Hollywood here. Furthermore, it is an improvement in being closer to the individual films' titles and further from the two unrelated films called Fallen. It is also a more natural and more concise article title. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 19:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
This article has been revised as part of
a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. (See
the investigation subpage.) Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170722105820/https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2302755/. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see
"using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or
"donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)
For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, and, if allowed under fair use, may copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. The material may also be rewritten, providing it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore, such paraphrased portions must provide their source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. DanCherek ( talk) 04:07, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
TBA means To Be Announced. TBA as the name suggests is an appropriate template to use for information that is not yet available, but is expected to be available. (For example:
Metacritic score of a major upcoming film might be TBA.)
NA means Not Applicable, or Not Available. (For example: A small film that is not even listed at Metacritic: Not Available.)
Words have meaning. Templates can have underlying semantic meaning. It is better to use the template with the right meaning.
There are templates for both {{ TBA}} and {{ NA}}. Some editors have been using {{ NA}} and then changing to the label to TBA {{NA|TBA}}. It is not clear why anyone would deliberately choose not to use the correct available template. I do not believe there is any good reason for doing this. If there is a valid reason for doing this I would be interested to see the editors explain themselves.
When I corrected this usage I was reverted, and an editor claimed it was "fine" and noted that other article were doing this too but we can do better than fine and use the right template.
TBA indicates a belief that information will be available in future, this suggests potential for improvement. NA indicates that the information is not available, it does not suggest that editors should try and check for new information and try to update the field. There is also {{ cEmpty}} for empty cells, which is neutral. Using the wrong template can be misleading. Please try to use the right template. -- 109.78.198.204 ( talk) 20:52, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
@ Erik: Does this count as a reliable source?
https://moviesr.net/p-gerard-butler-to-star-in-tv-series-paris-has-fallen-filming-begins-this-summer
BattleshipMan ( talk) 01:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)