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I have put the contested speedy deletion tag on the article since I lost the
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Student counseling article to that execution and thought to anticipate it here before it arrives.--
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Tone still needs improving. Reads like a bit of an essay to me -- NeilN 04:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Do we really need a link to a sit-com episode on a page about Grief Counseling? I love The Office and all, but it just seems like sort of an insensitive link that is not very useful.... 70.164.72.13 ( talk) 15:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Is there a difference between grief counseling and grief therapy? This needs to be more clearly articulated, with references! -- Jcbutler ( talk) 21:55, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I added a citation to latest edition of J. William Worden's Grief Counseling text in the paragraph where this distinction is raised. This is a real difference, typically differentiated by grief counseling referring to support, paraprofessional counseling, and supportive psychotherapy in normal grief-related experiences. Grief therapy, on the other hand, refers to the psychotherapeutic techniques used specifically in dealing with varied kinds of complicated grief. -- UnivProfWiki ( talk) 15:31, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
This is normal, contrary to what some professionals say, see Therese Rando. It is hurtful to the grieving person to consider it as abnormal.-- Bpell ( talk) 04:42, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I've asked for the ticket:2010092610002101 complaint to be explained here. -- Jeandré, 2010-09-26 t12:10z Although it may be hurtful to some to be considered abnormal in their response to grief, the point is actually, that response to grief is an individual reaction, therefore there can be no "normal" nor "abnormal" response. IamMsEve ( talk) 17:43, 20 June 2011 (UTC) Ms Eve
Redirect "bereavement care," "bereavement counseling" and "bereavement counselor" (which do not have articles) to this article?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.61.119 ( talk) 02:59, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Forte AL, Hill M, Pazder R, Feudtner C.
Bereavement care interventions: a systematic review.
BMC Palliat Care. 2004 Jul 26;3(1):3.
Source
Pediatric Advanced Care Team and Pediatric Generalist Research Group, Division of General Pediatrics, The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, PA, USA. feudtner@email.chop.edu Abstract BACKGROUND:
Despite abundant bereavement care options, consensus is lacking regarding optimal care for bereaved persons. METHODS:
We conducted a systematic review, searching MEDLINE, PsychINFO, CINAHL, EBMR, and other databases using the terms (bereaved or bereavement) and (grief) combined with (intervention or support or counselling or therapy) and (controlled or trial or design). We also searched citations in published reports for additional pertinent studies. Eligible studies had to evaluate whether the treatment of bereaved individuals reduced bereavement-related symptoms. Data from the studies was abstracted independently by two reviewers. RESULTS:
74 eligible studies evaluated diverse treatments designed to ameliorate a variety of outcomes associated with bereavement. Among studies utilizing a structured therapeutic relationship, eight featured pharmacotherapy (4 included an untreated control group), 39 featured support groups or counselling (23 included a control group), and 25 studies featured cognitive-behavioural, psychodynamic, psychoanalytical, or interpersonal therapies (17 included a control group). Seven studies employed systems-oriented interventions (all had control groups). Other than efficacy for pharmacological treatment of bereavement-related depression, we could identify no consistent pattern of treatment benefit among the other forms of interventions.
CONCLUSIONS:
Due to a paucity of reports on controlled clinical trails, no rigorous evidence-based recommendation regarding the treatment of bereaved persons is currently possible except for the pharmacologic treatment of depression. We postulate the following five factors as impeding scientific progress regarding bereavement care interventions: 1) excessive theoretical heterogeneity, 2) stultifying between-study variation, 3) inadequate reporting of intervention procedures, 4) few published replication studies, and 5) methodological flaws of study design.
PMID 15274744 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] PMC 503393
Free PMC Article http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-684X/3/3 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/15274744/?tool=pubmed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocdncntx ( talk • contribs) 21:24, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 ( talk) 21:54, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
This article effectively summarizes how counselors see grief, but there's little to no mention on the strategies and techniques used during grief counseling Brendenr1998 ( talk) 21:04, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
The first thing I noticed when reading this article is that the introduction's last sentence is way too long. The entire introduction could also be rewritten to better touch on the different topics that are talked about throughout the article as well. Dalpark ( talk) 04:08, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
How are you 41.114.191.50 ( talk) 11:47, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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Ziji
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I have put the contested speedy deletion tag on the article since I lost the
School counseling
Student counseling article to that execution and thought to anticipate it here before it arrives.--
Ziji
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talk
email) 02:51, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Tone still needs improving. Reads like a bit of an essay to me -- NeilN 04:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Do we really need a link to a sit-com episode on a page about Grief Counseling? I love The Office and all, but it just seems like sort of an insensitive link that is not very useful.... 70.164.72.13 ( talk) 15:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Is there a difference between grief counseling and grief therapy? This needs to be more clearly articulated, with references! -- Jcbutler ( talk) 21:55, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I added a citation to latest edition of J. William Worden's Grief Counseling text in the paragraph where this distinction is raised. This is a real difference, typically differentiated by grief counseling referring to support, paraprofessional counseling, and supportive psychotherapy in normal grief-related experiences. Grief therapy, on the other hand, refers to the psychotherapeutic techniques used specifically in dealing with varied kinds of complicated grief. -- UnivProfWiki ( talk) 15:31, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
This is normal, contrary to what some professionals say, see Therese Rando. It is hurtful to the grieving person to consider it as abnormal.-- Bpell ( talk) 04:42, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I've asked for the ticket:2010092610002101 complaint to be explained here. -- Jeandré, 2010-09-26 t12:10z Although it may be hurtful to some to be considered abnormal in their response to grief, the point is actually, that response to grief is an individual reaction, therefore there can be no "normal" nor "abnormal" response. IamMsEve ( talk) 17:43, 20 June 2011 (UTC) Ms Eve
Redirect "bereavement care," "bereavement counseling" and "bereavement counselor" (which do not have articles) to this article?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.61.119 ( talk) 02:59, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Forte AL, Hill M, Pazder R, Feudtner C.
Bereavement care interventions: a systematic review.
BMC Palliat Care. 2004 Jul 26;3(1):3.
Source
Pediatric Advanced Care Team and Pediatric Generalist Research Group, Division of General Pediatrics, The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, PA, USA. feudtner@email.chop.edu Abstract BACKGROUND:
Despite abundant bereavement care options, consensus is lacking regarding optimal care for bereaved persons. METHODS:
We conducted a systematic review, searching MEDLINE, PsychINFO, CINAHL, EBMR, and other databases using the terms (bereaved or bereavement) and (grief) combined with (intervention or support or counselling or therapy) and (controlled or trial or design). We also searched citations in published reports for additional pertinent studies. Eligible studies had to evaluate whether the treatment of bereaved individuals reduced bereavement-related symptoms. Data from the studies was abstracted independently by two reviewers. RESULTS:
74 eligible studies evaluated diverse treatments designed to ameliorate a variety of outcomes associated with bereavement. Among studies utilizing a structured therapeutic relationship, eight featured pharmacotherapy (4 included an untreated control group), 39 featured support groups or counselling (23 included a control group), and 25 studies featured cognitive-behavioural, psychodynamic, psychoanalytical, or interpersonal therapies (17 included a control group). Seven studies employed systems-oriented interventions (all had control groups). Other than efficacy for pharmacological treatment of bereavement-related depression, we could identify no consistent pattern of treatment benefit among the other forms of interventions.
CONCLUSIONS:
Due to a paucity of reports on controlled clinical trails, no rigorous evidence-based recommendation regarding the treatment of bereaved persons is currently possible except for the pharmacologic treatment of depression. We postulate the following five factors as impeding scientific progress regarding bereavement care interventions: 1) excessive theoretical heterogeneity, 2) stultifying between-study variation, 3) inadequate reporting of intervention procedures, 4) few published replication studies, and 5) methodological flaws of study design.
PMID 15274744 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] PMC 503393
Free PMC Article http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-684X/3/3 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/15274744/?tool=pubmed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocdncntx ( talk • contribs) 21:24, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 ( talk) 21:54, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
This article effectively summarizes how counselors see grief, but there's little to no mention on the strategies and techniques used during grief counseling Brendenr1998 ( talk) 21:04, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
The first thing I noticed when reading this article is that the introduction's last sentence is way too long. The entire introduction could also be rewritten to better touch on the different topics that are talked about throughout the article as well. Dalpark ( talk) 04:08, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
How are you 41.114.191.50 ( talk) 11:47, 9 August 2022 (UTC)