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Why does TWA not default to the airline? That's quite silly.
It's does not mean the airline is somehow more important, it means that the vast majority of people throughout the world would identify Trans World Airlines over the Twa. Although admittedly I do not have factual evidence to support this I think it is reasonable to agree that the airline has thus far been more historically significant
Is there anyway this article could include more about the people and their history? I came to this article through an article about the god Bes and there's not really anything here regarding the past history of these people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.242.14.141 ( talk) 22:22, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
It's been suggested again that the article be moved, this time to Batwa, to avoid confusion with TWA. However, the normal name in English is Twa. By analogy with other ethnic articles, Twa people might be a better choice. Regardless, there isn't any conflict: If you type "TWA" into the search window, you're automatically redirected to Trans World Airlines. So why bother moving this article? kwami ( talk) 10:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was No move Parsecboy ( talk) 01:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Twa → Twa (people) — I agree with the other posters above that the most probable reference for "twa" or "Twa" on the English Wikipedia is to the airline. I therefore feel that taking the article through the formal process is appropriate. Along with the move request, I'm proposing (in case it isn't obvious) that Twa should become a redirect to Trans World Airlines, as TWA already is - I don't think it's appropriate to distinguish between any articles solely by capitalization. I also note that the name of the reference photo for the current article is "Batwa2.jpg" - a move to Batwa would be an alternative. — Tevildo ( talk) 23:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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Wikipedia's naming conventions.The result of the proposal was Moved. I filed a RfM in case there might be objections; as there haven't been, I'm closing and moving. — kwami ( talk) 11:44, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
– Universality. Several of our links to "Twa" were not about the Twa of the Great Lakes, but about one or more of the many other Twa peoples. Very often refs to 'Twa' in the lit are ambiguous. Although they are yet stubs, we have articles on some of these: Mongo Twa, Kafwe Twa, Lukanga Twa, and there is sufficient material available to expand those articles and to start several more: the role of the Kasai Twa in the Kuba Kingdom, Twa as the fishermen of the lakes of northern Zambia, encounters between Arab slavers and the Twa of the Lomami, the role of the Luba Twa in Himba legend, Ota Benga's Twa companions at the St. Louis exhibition/zoo, etc. (Though admittedly almost nothing about the Twa of Angola.) These people are all just as notable as the Great Lakes Twa, if not as much in the news because of the Rwandan genocide. IMO an article on the "Twa" should be about the "Twa", not about a subset of them. (BTW I opposed the RfM two years ago, which was for a different reason.) — kwami ( talk) 00:03, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
The current History section is very problematic. It states as truth nineteenth-century German colonial eugenicist fantasies about the origins of Great Lakes' castes/ethnic groups. These outdated theories were later revived by Hutu Power during the Rwandan genocide as a justifications for the annihilation of the Tutsi. I'm going to do research for sources and try to clean up the section, but as it stands now the section would be better deleted than allowed to remain as is. 24.125.163.52 ( talk) 20:02, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
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Why does TWA not default to the airline? That's quite silly.
It's does not mean the airline is somehow more important, it means that the vast majority of people throughout the world would identify Trans World Airlines over the Twa. Although admittedly I do not have factual evidence to support this I think it is reasonable to agree that the airline has thus far been more historically significant
Is there anyway this article could include more about the people and their history? I came to this article through an article about the god Bes and there's not really anything here regarding the past history of these people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.242.14.141 ( talk) 22:22, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
It's been suggested again that the article be moved, this time to Batwa, to avoid confusion with TWA. However, the normal name in English is Twa. By analogy with other ethnic articles, Twa people might be a better choice. Regardless, there isn't any conflict: If you type "TWA" into the search window, you're automatically redirected to Trans World Airlines. So why bother moving this article? kwami ( talk) 10:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was No move Parsecboy ( talk) 01:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Twa → Twa (people) — I agree with the other posters above that the most probable reference for "twa" or "Twa" on the English Wikipedia is to the airline. I therefore feel that taking the article through the formal process is appropriate. Along with the move request, I'm proposing (in case it isn't obvious) that Twa should become a redirect to Trans World Airlines, as TWA already is - I don't think it's appropriate to distinguish between any articles solely by capitalization. I also note that the name of the reference photo for the current article is "Batwa2.jpg" - a move to Batwa would be an alternative. — Tevildo ( talk) 23:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
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polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's naming conventions.The result of the proposal was Moved. I filed a RfM in case there might be objections; as there haven't been, I'm closing and moving. — kwami ( talk) 11:44, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
– Universality. Several of our links to "Twa" were not about the Twa of the Great Lakes, but about one or more of the many other Twa peoples. Very often refs to 'Twa' in the lit are ambiguous. Although they are yet stubs, we have articles on some of these: Mongo Twa, Kafwe Twa, Lukanga Twa, and there is sufficient material available to expand those articles and to start several more: the role of the Kasai Twa in the Kuba Kingdom, Twa as the fishermen of the lakes of northern Zambia, encounters between Arab slavers and the Twa of the Lomami, the role of the Luba Twa in Himba legend, Ota Benga's Twa companions at the St. Louis exhibition/zoo, etc. (Though admittedly almost nothing about the Twa of Angola.) These people are all just as notable as the Great Lakes Twa, if not as much in the news because of the Rwandan genocide. IMO an article on the "Twa" should be about the "Twa", not about a subset of them. (BTW I opposed the RfM two years ago, which was for a different reason.) — kwami ( talk) 00:03, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
The current History section is very problematic. It states as truth nineteenth-century German colonial eugenicist fantasies about the origins of Great Lakes' castes/ethnic groups. These outdated theories were later revived by Hutu Power during the Rwandan genocide as a justifications for the annihilation of the Tutsi. I'm going to do research for sources and try to clean up the section, but as it stands now the section would be better deleted than allowed to remain as is. 24.125.163.52 ( talk) 20:02, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Did hutu kill Twa in 1994 Genocide?-- Kaiyr ( talk) 11:06, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
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