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"Ethiopia's move to fill the dam's reservoir could reduce Nile flows by as much as 25%" In an article covering such an emotionally charged topic it would be helpful to make it clear that the original source only says that this would be the case during the initial filling period — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.153.231.177 ( talk) 19:03, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
This dam supposedly stores 63 billion cubic metres. The Aswan/Nasser reservoir has a capacity of 132 billion cubic metres. So how is this new one supposed to be the largest reservoir in Africa, when an existing one is twice as large ? Eregli bob ( talk) 14:37, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
This dam's name has been changed. Here are several sources concerning the name change:
It should be moved. -- Simfan34 ( talk) 16:46, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Recently in the news here in Ehiopia, the dam's capacity of generation has been upgraded from 5,250MW to 6000MW. This makes the dam to share the number 7 spot in the world with the Russian Krasnoyarskaya dam in terms of generating capacity. [1]
Here is the article from the Ethiopian Radio and News agency
http://www.ertagov.com/erta/erta-news-archive/38-erta-tv-hot-news-addis-ababa-ethiopia/1562-first-anniversary-of-commencement-of-renaissance-dam-project-to-be-celebrated.html Please someone also verify and may the article stand :) Good days for all
```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brookyitna ( talk • contribs) 14:07, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
References
I think this is more than bluster - could mean a military conflict. Many news stories online about this. HammerFilmFan ( talk) 11:06, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
[1] >> Ethiopia Sees Output at Africa’s Biggest Power Plant by 2015( Lihaas ( talk) 18:25, 20 November 2013 (UTC)).
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When im trying to download this article as pdf-file, message appears: "Status: ! Package polyglossia Error: The current roman font does not contain the Ethiop". Fix pls. 109.187.204.123 ( talk) 11:51, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
In File:Renaissance Dam site.jpg, the dam is less than 20 km from the border. -- Mewaqua ( talk) 18:43, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
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Section Alleged over-sizing should be reworked: The section contains certain critic against the dam project and some countering of that. The presented technical details of the discussion are a bit murky however:
There are two good ways of presenting critic and counter: Direct citing of the statements, or presentation of the core arguments in a scientifically solid manner. The current chapter text tries the latter, but fails (on both sides).
In any case, more and better citations are needed.
If one side of the discussion is lacking in good citations, a good way is to link against established facts elsewhere. Often a simple wikilink is good enough.
If the Wikipedia text starts to look biased, it should switch to direct citing of statements.
Apart from that: The first cited source (Beyene) also hints at heated inner-Ethiopian confrontation. If there is more of that, it should be presented (or linked) in some other part of the article.
Tomdo08 (
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17:13, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
This section is not about the references section in the subject page: There are references in this talk page; without putting the reflist into a separate chapter, it looks like they belong to the random chapter which happens to be the last.
Can someone explain how the silt accumulation could be be greater in the upstream GERD relative to the immediate downstream Roseires Reservoir? I would fully expect the river silt load to be similar, and primarily deposited in the first still water.
200.68.142.33 ( talk) 00:44, 17 October 2020 (UTC) Baden K.
Someone (using a mobile phone, just to let you know the level of the guy) reverted this information maybe just for fun: "Egypt is demanding to increase its share of the Nile's water flow from 66% to 90%. [1] Naturally, there could be a good reason, I give a chance to this possibility BUT NOT to act autocratically without explaining why, like a troll. So I'm here to ask for a fair and well-founded explanation (no, the excuses for such behaviour are useless because highly probably not sincere and rooting in a bad education that they would call into question parents and school education). Thanks and have a good day! GianMarco Tavazzani ( talk) 10:26, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
The following paragraph was simply deleted and not changed nor integrated or updated. This is not the way the content of a page should grow but the way it's MANIPULATED and, once again, by an obscure 'user' without an identity through a toy phone!
Worrying is also that Wikipedia claims: "(One intermediate revision by one other user not shown)" This is the second time that I notice and refer here to a 'politically manipulating intrusion' deleting politically sensitive pieces of information by someone that has no identity and had no reply to my previous claim here.
I ask Wikipedia if there is any control to prevent a Wikipedia page to become PROPAGANDA instead of a document.
"The Ethiopian government has stated that it intends to fund the entire cost of the dam by itself in order to prevent relying on foreign countries who may be brought under pressure by Egypt to withdraw their support. Ethiopia has issued a bond targeted at Ethiopians in the country and abroad to that end. The turbines and associated electrical equipment of the hydropower plants costing about US$ 1.8 billion are reportedly financed by Chinese banks. This would leave US$ 3 billion to be financed by the Ethiopian government through other means. [2] The estimated US$ 4.8 billion construction cost, apparently excluding the cost of power transmission lines, corresponds to about 5% of Ethiopia's gross domestic product of US$87 billion in 2017. GianMarco Tavazzani ( talk) 05:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
References
AlJazeera
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).In the "Reactions: cooperation and condemnation" section of this article, a South African political group called the TRAKboys is mentioned. According to WikiBlame, they were added to the article by user @ AnthonyJBrant on April 27th of 2023. I wanted to learn more about them, but none of the referenced articles mention the TRAKboys. I had a very difficult time finding anything on the internet about them. They're also referenced in the Wikipedia article for Sudan... Also by @ AnthonyJBrant, on the same day as the addition to this article.
Here is the only thing I found online that references TRAKboys that wasn't submitted by @ AnthonyJBrant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDS8IQSdZ-E
For all I know, they're a legitimate organization that has played key roles in recent South/East African politics, but one would think they would have more of an online presence.
Who are the TRAKboys? 173.164.73.234 ( talk) 23:26, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Looking at the latest (2023-12-25) Sentinel2 imagery, the GERD dam looks completely topped off, and the water level is well above the control spillway intake gates at 624 m.
201.114.229.190 ( talk) 07:43, 27 December 2023 (UTC) baden k.
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|
"Ethiopia's move to fill the dam's reservoir could reduce Nile flows by as much as 25%" In an article covering such an emotionally charged topic it would be helpful to make it clear that the original source only says that this would be the case during the initial filling period — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.153.231.177 ( talk) 19:03, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
This dam supposedly stores 63 billion cubic metres. The Aswan/Nasser reservoir has a capacity of 132 billion cubic metres. So how is this new one supposed to be the largest reservoir in Africa, when an existing one is twice as large ? Eregli bob ( talk) 14:37, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
This dam's name has been changed. Here are several sources concerning the name change:
It should be moved. -- Simfan34 ( talk) 16:46, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Recently in the news here in Ehiopia, the dam's capacity of generation has been upgraded from 5,250MW to 6000MW. This makes the dam to share the number 7 spot in the world with the Russian Krasnoyarskaya dam in terms of generating capacity. [1]
Here is the article from the Ethiopian Radio and News agency
http://www.ertagov.com/erta/erta-news-archive/38-erta-tv-hot-news-addis-ababa-ethiopia/1562-first-anniversary-of-commencement-of-renaissance-dam-project-to-be-celebrated.html Please someone also verify and may the article stand :) Good days for all
```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brookyitna ( talk • contribs) 14:07, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
References
I think this is more than bluster - could mean a military conflict. Many news stories online about this. HammerFilmFan ( talk) 11:06, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
[1] >> Ethiopia Sees Output at Africa’s Biggest Power Plant by 2015( Lihaas ( talk) 18:25, 20 November 2013 (UTC)).
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When im trying to download this article as pdf-file, message appears: "Status: ! Package polyglossia Error: The current roman font does not contain the Ethiop". Fix pls. 109.187.204.123 ( talk) 11:51, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
In File:Renaissance Dam site.jpg, the dam is less than 20 km from the border. -- Mewaqua ( talk) 18:43, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
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Section Alleged over-sizing should be reworked: The section contains certain critic against the dam project and some countering of that. The presented technical details of the discussion are a bit murky however:
There are two good ways of presenting critic and counter: Direct citing of the statements, or presentation of the core arguments in a scientifically solid manner. The current chapter text tries the latter, but fails (on both sides).
In any case, more and better citations are needed.
If one side of the discussion is lacking in good citations, a good way is to link against established facts elsewhere. Often a simple wikilink is good enough.
If the Wikipedia text starts to look biased, it should switch to direct citing of statements.
Apart from that: The first cited source (Beyene) also hints at heated inner-Ethiopian confrontation. If there is more of that, it should be presented (or linked) in some other part of the article.
Tomdo08 (
talk)
17:13, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
This section is not about the references section in the subject page: There are references in this talk page; without putting the reflist into a separate chapter, it looks like they belong to the random chapter which happens to be the last.
Can someone explain how the silt accumulation could be be greater in the upstream GERD relative to the immediate downstream Roseires Reservoir? I would fully expect the river silt load to be similar, and primarily deposited in the first still water.
200.68.142.33 ( talk) 00:44, 17 October 2020 (UTC) Baden K.
Someone (using a mobile phone, just to let you know the level of the guy) reverted this information maybe just for fun: "Egypt is demanding to increase its share of the Nile's water flow from 66% to 90%. [1] Naturally, there could be a good reason, I give a chance to this possibility BUT NOT to act autocratically without explaining why, like a troll. So I'm here to ask for a fair and well-founded explanation (no, the excuses for such behaviour are useless because highly probably not sincere and rooting in a bad education that they would call into question parents and school education). Thanks and have a good day! GianMarco Tavazzani ( talk) 10:26, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
The following paragraph was simply deleted and not changed nor integrated or updated. This is not the way the content of a page should grow but the way it's MANIPULATED and, once again, by an obscure 'user' without an identity through a toy phone!
Worrying is also that Wikipedia claims: "(One intermediate revision by one other user not shown)" This is the second time that I notice and refer here to a 'politically manipulating intrusion' deleting politically sensitive pieces of information by someone that has no identity and had no reply to my previous claim here.
I ask Wikipedia if there is any control to prevent a Wikipedia page to become PROPAGANDA instead of a document.
"The Ethiopian government has stated that it intends to fund the entire cost of the dam by itself in order to prevent relying on foreign countries who may be brought under pressure by Egypt to withdraw their support. Ethiopia has issued a bond targeted at Ethiopians in the country and abroad to that end. The turbines and associated electrical equipment of the hydropower plants costing about US$ 1.8 billion are reportedly financed by Chinese banks. This would leave US$ 3 billion to be financed by the Ethiopian government through other means. [2] The estimated US$ 4.8 billion construction cost, apparently excluding the cost of power transmission lines, corresponds to about 5% of Ethiopia's gross domestic product of US$87 billion in 2017. GianMarco Tavazzani ( talk) 05:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
References
AlJazeera
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).In the "Reactions: cooperation and condemnation" section of this article, a South African political group called the TRAKboys is mentioned. According to WikiBlame, they were added to the article by user @ AnthonyJBrant on April 27th of 2023. I wanted to learn more about them, but none of the referenced articles mention the TRAKboys. I had a very difficult time finding anything on the internet about them. They're also referenced in the Wikipedia article for Sudan... Also by @ AnthonyJBrant, on the same day as the addition to this article.
Here is the only thing I found online that references TRAKboys that wasn't submitted by @ AnthonyJBrant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDS8IQSdZ-E
For all I know, they're a legitimate organization that has played key roles in recent South/East African politics, but one would think they would have more of an online presence.
Who are the TRAKboys? 173.164.73.234 ( talk) 23:26, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Looking at the latest (2023-12-25) Sentinel2 imagery, the GERD dam looks completely topped off, and the water level is well above the control spillway intake gates at 624 m.
201.114.229.190 ( talk) 07:43, 27 December 2023 (UTC) baden k.
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talk)
08:12, 27 December 2023 (UTC){{
tag|ref}}
is perfect for that (<ref>...</ref>
). --
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talk)
10:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
<syntaxhighlight inline></syntaxhighlight>
is laborious to type out, and adding lang="wikitext" adds even more mental burden since then the editor then has to pick a language and make sure they get the language code right. We really should revisit this entire workflow. It seems inefficient in multiple ways (tag name way too long, the fact that no language specified is considered a bad thing and is patrolled unlike a code tag where no language specified is fine). <code><nowiki></nowiki></code>
is also laborious to type so is not a great alternative.
phab:T311518 –
Novem Linguae (
talk)
08:25, 29 December 2023 (UTC)