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Hi Ritchie333 - Just from a subjective standpoint, I think the article is in pretty good shape. Will go through it today and tomorrow. If I leave specific comments, and you make corrections, please "ping" me, and I'll take another look.
The Filmography states Chapman was Narrator for the films Tom and Huck (1995), To Die For (1995), and Speedway Junky (1999) all after Chapman’s death in 1989. I could find no evidence he was in any of these films so I have removed them from the list. Vigilfree ( talk) 05:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
@ Helper201: Will you please stop adding "England" to the infobox parameters? It's silly and pointless. You directed me towards Template:Infobox_person#Parameters which in turn goes to Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Infoboxes#Purpose which says "The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance." Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:12, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
The personal life section tells us:
Chapman and Sherlock moved to Belsize Park in 1968... In the mid-1980s, having resettled in Britain, [they] moved to Maidstone, Kent.
AFAIR, Belsize Park is in Britain. There is also no mention of them leaving the UK nor, in the body, of the home in Highgate mentioned in an adjacent image caption.
The whole narrative is very confusing (or confused). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:00, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I just noticed that the supposed middle of name of Chapman, "Arthur", is not in any sources given in the article, nor any I could find. Significantly, the most used source, Bob McCabe's officially authorised biography, does not mention it, referring to the opening paragraph of his life as simply "Graham Chapman". I'm going to take that as definitive. (Actually, Liarappendix ( talk · contribs) spotted it, I just did the fact checking).
The middle name was added here on 9 October 2008 (years before I started improving it) by 69.156.136.206 ( talk · contribs), and since none of the other edits by that IP look like vandalism, I have to treat it as a good faith improvement, though not one cited by the highest quality sources.
Can anyone else back up my thoughts here? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:01, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Hogyn Lleol ( talk) 13:52, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
There seems to be a bit of ambiguity regarding his memorial service at St. Bartholomew's. In the heading of the article we have the following:
His life and legacy were commemorated at a private memorial service at St Bartholomew's with the other five Pythons two months after his death.
In the later Memorial Service section under Illness and Death, the second paragraph starts with the following:
A public memorial service for Chapman was held at St Bartholomew's on 3 December, two months after his death.
Can anyone clarify whether the service was private or public, or whether there where two separate services around the same time? I suspect there was only one public memorial service, since there's mention of the service being televised, but I figured I'd bring it up here first in case someone knew better. Warhorus ( talk) 21:21, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
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Gay News? | |||||||||
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Reviewer: Onel5969 ( talk · contribs) 02:11, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Ritchie333 - Just from a subjective standpoint, I think the article is in pretty good shape. Will go through it today and tomorrow. If I leave specific comments, and you make corrections, please "ping" me, and I'll take another look.
The Filmography states Chapman was Narrator for the films Tom and Huck (1995), To Die For (1995), and Speedway Junky (1999) all after Chapman’s death in 1989. I could find no evidence he was in any of these films so I have removed them from the list. Vigilfree ( talk) 05:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
@ Helper201: Will you please stop adding "England" to the infobox parameters? It's silly and pointless. You directed me towards Template:Infobox_person#Parameters which in turn goes to Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Infoboxes#Purpose which says "The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance." Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:12, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
The personal life section tells us:
Chapman and Sherlock moved to Belsize Park in 1968... In the mid-1980s, having resettled in Britain, [they] moved to Maidstone, Kent.
AFAIR, Belsize Park is in Britain. There is also no mention of them leaving the UK nor, in the body, of the home in Highgate mentioned in an adjacent image caption.
The whole narrative is very confusing (or confused). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:00, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I just noticed that the supposed middle of name of Chapman, "Arthur", is not in any sources given in the article, nor any I could find. Significantly, the most used source, Bob McCabe's officially authorised biography, does not mention it, referring to the opening paragraph of his life as simply "Graham Chapman". I'm going to take that as definitive. (Actually, Liarappendix ( talk · contribs) spotted it, I just did the fact checking).
The middle name was added here on 9 October 2008 (years before I started improving it) by 69.156.136.206 ( talk · contribs), and since none of the other edits by that IP look like vandalism, I have to treat it as a good faith improvement, though not one cited by the highest quality sources.
Can anyone else back up my thoughts here? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:01, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Hogyn Lleol ( talk) 13:52, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
There seems to be a bit of ambiguity regarding his memorial service at St. Bartholomew's. In the heading of the article we have the following:
His life and legacy were commemorated at a private memorial service at St Bartholomew's with the other five Pythons two months after his death.
In the later Memorial Service section under Illness and Death, the second paragraph starts with the following:
A public memorial service for Chapman was held at St Bartholomew's on 3 December, two months after his death.
Can anyone clarify whether the service was private or public, or whether there where two separate services around the same time? I suspect there was only one public memorial service, since there's mention of the service being televised, but I figured I'd bring it up here first in case someone knew better. Warhorus ( talk) 21:21, 14 June 2023 (UTC)