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On the recent episode of The F Word while doing a segment with supermodel Erin O'Connor Ramsay was measured with his height being 6 foot 2 and a half inches. Is there a way to incorperate this information (or atleast include as a source) into the article. Knowledgeum ( talk) 17:42, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm about to make some edits to the "Near death experience" section on the article, and one line isn't enough to explain everything in the "edit summary" line, so... The article as it now stands says that he fell "85m" to the water. That's an almost certainly fatal height (see the Golden Gate Bridge article, where the drop is less than 85m), so I thought something must be off. I checked the references and found that most of them say that he fell while descending an 85m cliff, not that he fell from that height. The one reference which does make the claim that he fell that far was erroneously summarizing a primary source which again only gave 85m as the total height of the cliff. So I am:
And while I'm there:
-- Ichneumon ( talk) 03:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- can you explain more about a puffin hunt? He wasn't planning to cook them was he? I thought they were endangered? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.205.224.155 ( talk) 11:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sure can Puffins are not endangered however you do require a licence to catch them. Ramsay had a licence for I think to catch 1000 but he only caught five the first one he released and he caught two and so did his guide. Here is a youtube link to watch the puffin hunting segment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihsLbML1Qo and yes he did cook them and he also ate a raw Puffin heart.-- Theoneintraining ( talk) 12:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I left a note about this on the discussion page of her redirect, but she has, in my opinion, done enough to warrant a page of her own on here! I mean, her book even outsold her husband's! Anyone agree? Sky83 ( talk) 12:02, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
i have semi-protected this page die to presistant vandalism. If you will request me to remove it, please explain why. Gopal81 ( talk) 00:52, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
http://www.ftnnews.com/content/view/4051/26/lang,english/ Is this a good source for the article? Hurricane Angel Saki ( talk) 09:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
On November 23, 2008 the European tabloid, "News of the World", reported that Gordon Ramsey has been having an affair. Since it's a well-known tabloid that's known for it's outrageous and ridiculous sex scandal stories, anything it reports should be taken with a grain of salt. On November 22, 2008 the wiki entry for Gordon Ramsey was edited, and someone added an entry mentioning his affair in the News of the World magazine a whole day before the story broke, which leads me to believe that an employee of the magazine added it prematurely, to coincide with the tabloid's release. Pretty shady if you ask me, to try to ruin someone's life like that. Ubergeek14 ( talk) 02:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
With Clay Aiken, his sexual orientation was confirmed after his official People interview/story. Only then was his LGBT status added to his Wiki article. Same deal with Ramsay's affair. Per WP:BLP we can only reproduce the story on Wiki if it's been officially confirmed; right now they're only allegations at best. -- Madchester ( talk) 00:17, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Is it our patch to note this, or the Sarah Symonds affair accusations? It seems to meet our criteria for notability. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 17:48, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons — whether the material is negative, positive, or just questionable — should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion, from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space.
- Biographies of living persons must be written conservatively, with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid paper; it is not our job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives. The possibility of harm to living subjects is one of the important factors to be considered when exercising editorial judgment.
As NotW is the only source, it is a tabloid with a poor track record and numerous libel rulings against them (see their wiki page). That automatically makes everything they say non reliable. Other news agencies dragging up their article does not make them more reliable, it just makes the other paper lazy. As discussed already on this talk page, unless another more reliable paper comes out with its own proof, not just spewing out what notw says without doing any fact checking there are no reliable sources for this and the blp issue remains. Knowledgeum : Talk 19:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Knowledgeum requested my participation in this discussion. Having read this thread, the previous one, and the discussions linked in them, I find myself in agreement with the editors suggesting that the material be omitted. My reasons are as follows:
I hope this was helpful. Sarcasticidealist ( talk) 21:50, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Quick thoughts: If Symonds is 'notable', then why doesn't she have an article about her? 'the initial accusations were made by her and reported by NotW'? Isn't it *slightly* possible that NotW paid her to make those accusations, so they could then 'report' them? (though newspapers do sometimes make accusations themselves) That seems to be a typical MO of tabloids.
I also contend that 'picking up by other sources' in no way 'ensures further vetting' of a story; we have no guarantee that any of the other sources actually did any fact checking at all (regardless of them being RS's). Really, what most of them are saying is "we heard this story and its sensational, so we want to repeat it and add our own comments"; none of the repeat stories I've seen have mentioned anything about verification work (ie: "we talked to X and they corroborated fact Y"). Fact checking/reliability inherent in reliable sources (usually on their own material) doesn't magically 'transfer' when they repeat someone else's story. This is still all just gossip and rumors so far.
DP76764 (
Talk) 01:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
- In late November 2008, British tabloid News of the World published a news story wherein Sarah Symonds, author of the book Having An Affair? A Handbook For The Other Woman claimed to have been involved in a secret affair with Ramsay for a period of seven to ten years. [1] [2]. Symonds further notes that there were at least two others Ramsay had been involved with, as well. Amidst the allegations, the family put off a holiday vacation in Mauritius [3], and Ramsay, initially ignoring the allegations, denied them on a BBC television cooking program, Good Food Show. [4] [5] An Australian woman has also made similar claims, while Ramsay denies even knowing the woman. [6] [7] [8] [9]
- The Daily Telegraph points out that the chef's Gordon Ramsay Holdings restaurant empire (whose business partner is his father-in-law Christopher Hutcheson [10]) could be damaged by the allegations. Richard Harden, co-publisher of the Harden's Restaurant Guide, speaking to the Evening Standard, concurs. "It must damage the package". [11], though publicist Max Clifford disagrees, noting that while the allegations might cause "a lot of aggravation" at home, it wouldn't impact his image and popularity "at all". [12]
Section looks alright, now that Ramsay has made an official statement regarding the allegations. -- Madchester ( talk) 02:29, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Could someone update the page about Marcus Wareing and the Berkeley? Marcus is not working for Ramsay anymore and the Restaurant is leased directly to Marcus Wareing as far as I know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.74.99.93 ( talk) 04:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
In an episode of Hell's Kitchen (I believe last season but it might have been earlier), Ramsay was heard to claim (while lambasting a contestant) that he has knowledge of 3000 recipes. It's an interesting bit of information that would be worth adding. If anyone can cite the episode, that would be good, or if it's been mentioned in an article or a book. 23skidoo ( talk) 19:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
It was season four, I believe episode 1. He lambasted the guys for not knowing the menu by heart, and said that he has 3000 recipes between his ears. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.76.102.37 ( talk) 21:40, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning that he has lied in interviews regarding his football "career", particularily regarding playing for Glasgow Rangers? ROxBo ( talk) 03:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
As an add-on, I think we need to deal with the recent NOTW football allegations the same way as the tabloid's infidelity allegations per WP:BLP. If it were to be expanded any further, it needs some response from Ramsay and/or further reporting from more credible sources. -- Madchester ( talk) 22:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
It's been reported ( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1160312/Struggling-Ramsay-sells-flagship-Hollywood-restaurant.html) that GR has sold his West Hollywood establishment and that others are being closed. Apart from removing restaurants that GR/GR Holdings does not own anymore, would it be interesting to have a section on this topic ? Possibly also a note on the closed restaurants (Petrus etc). Bigmouth strikes ( talk) 15:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
This is admittedly a minor point but, since it is an article subject to WP:BLP, I feel the need to bring it up. I'm not quite sure how reliable this reference is when reporting on Ramsay's shoe size. Contactmusic.com's Wikipedia article claims that the company now has "12 fulltime staff" which strikes me as an awfully low number of people to ensure proper fact-checking and accuracy as per the requirements of WP:RS. Some evidence of RS short-commings may lie in the fact that the above article contains some quotation marks that are positioned in an ortographically unorthodox way and which are less likely to be found in most reliable publications. The claim of "requiring" custom-built shoes seems somewhat exaggerated for someone who wears size 15 shoes. I have a size 16 foot and have only minor problems when trying to find proper shoes even though I have to buy them on a "middle-class" salary rather than with a budget from a net worth in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Would anyone object to the shoe size quip being removed if more solid references cannot be located to back up the claim? Big Bird ( talk • contribs) 19:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
page shows two different years of birth. which is correct? Torpanna ( talk) 04:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Ramsay's Expression In The Photo Does Not Represent Him As Well As Him Angry, That Is How Most People See Him And Would Be More Relevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bvernon199 ( talk • contribs) 02:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I have tried, and failed, to add an external link to the Gordon Ramsay page to a website http://www.garydoesgordon.com which aims to replicate all the dishes from Gordon's 3 star chef cookbook. I feel this is a worthy addition to the article in much the same way as similar links have already been placed under the 'French Laundry' and 'Thomas Keller' articles. Such websites showcase the food that the respective chef's have built their reputations on and in my opinion is a worthy addition to an already comprehensive article.
Any thoughts? -- Geebster ( talk) 12:40, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
It's link spam and advertising. Thanks for bringing those other pages to my attention, I've removed those as well. Thedarxide ( talk) 12:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed something in the introductory paragraph that says that Gordon Ramsay is 4th in the World in terms of Michelin Stars, behind Bobby Flay. Last time I checked, Bobby Flay doesn't have any Michelin Stars, so this is probably very wrong (unless he's raked up more than sixteen in the past two years.) I'm not sure where he's ranked nor who "Bobby Flay" really should be, so I've not edited it, could someone look into this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.0.182 ( talk) 06:50, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Should we take off the OBE. I mean, that a current practice for Wikipedia articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.52.200 ( talk) 00:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Did he actually hire that inmate later? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.176.244.232 ( talk) 10:45, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
"Frozen 'ready meal' controversy" section has a repeated quote. 68.56.16.211 ( talk) 15:29, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}}
there is now a fourth 3 michelin starred restaurant in the UK, Alain Ducasse at the Dorchester in London.
86.46.25.111 ( talk) 00:37, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
This article states that the ejection caused A.A. Gill to write the "second-rate human being"-bit. The wikipedia article on A.A. Gill says that the "second-rate human being"-bit had been written before, and was the reason for the ejection. Which is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.202.12.243 ( talk) 10:59, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
In this section it is stated
This was principally added with this edit. The first establishment was amended from "Roxbury House Hotel" to "Wroxton House Hotel" with this edit, which I believe to be correct: Wroxton, where the Wroxton House Hotel is located, is quite near Banbury. I'd like the second one to be checked as well: I believe that it should be Wykham Arms, which is situated at Sibford Gower, also near Banbury. In the Banbury area, "Wykham" is pronounced "wickem". -- Redrose64 ( talk) 19:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Readers of GQ voted Ramsay "Prick of the year" in 2008 [5]. Wikipedia covers all points of view in life, and this is backed up with a source. It represents (some of the) public opinion on Mr. Ramsay. It's not a "joke" as one editor claimed, it is an award like any other the public vote for. 92.20.63.131 ( talk) 22:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Should we add a section about him having taken plastic surgery? http://www.cosmeticsurgerytoday.co.uk/news_article/view/10564/gordon-ramsay-admits-to-having-plastic-surgery/ . I've heard it from "people" and from this link, I bet there are more, so I guess its true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.16.229.23 ( talk) 17:09, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Please verify the source of the 69% stake holding and the Value of the company. There is no mention of said amounts in the source provided. Please remove if no source found — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.132.83.143 ( talk) 22:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Before this becomes the umpteenth edit conflict on this topic, please review sections 2-5 of the talk page. Per WP:BLP, we write conservatively about a living subject. Ramsay has never made a definitive statement of his nationality; his website bio skirts around any preferences by stating " Scottish by birth, Gordon was brought up in Stratford-upon-Avon, England, from the age of five." The current lead sentence was created as a compromise for the endless Scottish/English/British debates. Ramsay presents himself without any defined nationality; for us to label him as X/Y/Z would be in vio of WP:BLP, if not WP:SYN. Thanks. -- Madchester ( talk) 23:29, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
So, why not just say he is a `British` chef-unless there has been some huge shakeup that i, a Scot havnt noticed, Scotland is still part of Britain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.101.113 ( talk) 00:36, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
I've stayed at the Hilton Old Town in Prague five times in the past three years, and there is not a Gordon Ramsay restaurant on the premises. Curt1222 ( talk) 15:25, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Please keep punctuation marks inside quotation marks, it is rather unprofessional otherwise and distracts from proper reading.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.201.157 ( talk • contribs)
Gordon Ramsay never called Tracy Grimshaw a lesbian, even she herself has admitted that. He didn't even call her a pig, he insinuated it and a member from the audience yelled out her name where he went, "Oh don't shout that out." Please somebody fix it. Here's the entire video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOs-p6Pd5fs — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
24.149.107.68 (
talk) 05:37, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
I removed the legal proceedings subsection headers on the grounds that the proposed subsections are single paragraphs and still fairly easy to understand. Any thoughts? Hasteur ( talk) 17:02, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Do we have a cite supporting his cooking style as "French/Italian/British~? I'm pretty sure this sounds a bit too generalising. -- OfTheGreen ( talk) 21:04, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
I am curious to know why there is no mention of his half sister, Sharon Donnachie (who has a son and daughter) who he first met a few years back. I used to live in the same close as her, and TBH, you couldn't mistake some sort of family resemblance. (The way I did till after I found out...d'oh) 2.125.67.39 ( talk) 10:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)Lance Tyrell
The link is to the oil giant — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.30.109.160 ( talk) 07:15, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Is the Powerscourt restaurant missing from this section or I overlooked it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.178.168.100 ( talk) 09:31, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
This seems like a strange choice of description, when 'British' is available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.243.155 ( talk) 10:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Can we remain mindful of WP:BLPSOURCES; we cannot use tabloid sources on articles on living people. Do not add or restore such sources to this article, please. -- John ( talk) 08:28, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
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On the recent episode of The F Word while doing a segment with supermodel Erin O'Connor Ramsay was measured with his height being 6 foot 2 and a half inches. Is there a way to incorperate this information (or atleast include as a source) into the article. Knowledgeum ( talk) 17:42, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm about to make some edits to the "Near death experience" section on the article, and one line isn't enough to explain everything in the "edit summary" line, so... The article as it now stands says that he fell "85m" to the water. That's an almost certainly fatal height (see the Golden Gate Bridge article, where the drop is less than 85m), so I thought something must be off. I checked the references and found that most of them say that he fell while descending an 85m cliff, not that he fell from that height. The one reference which does make the claim that he fell that far was erroneously summarizing a primary source which again only gave 85m as the total height of the cliff. So I am:
And while I'm there:
-- Ichneumon ( talk) 03:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- can you explain more about a puffin hunt? He wasn't planning to cook them was he? I thought they were endangered? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.205.224.155 ( talk) 11:48, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sure can Puffins are not endangered however you do require a licence to catch them. Ramsay had a licence for I think to catch 1000 but he only caught five the first one he released and he caught two and so did his guide. Here is a youtube link to watch the puffin hunting segment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihsLbML1Qo and yes he did cook them and he also ate a raw Puffin heart.-- Theoneintraining ( talk) 12:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I left a note about this on the discussion page of her redirect, but she has, in my opinion, done enough to warrant a page of her own on here! I mean, her book even outsold her husband's! Anyone agree? Sky83 ( talk) 12:02, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
i have semi-protected this page die to presistant vandalism. If you will request me to remove it, please explain why. Gopal81 ( talk) 00:52, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
http://www.ftnnews.com/content/view/4051/26/lang,english/ Is this a good source for the article? Hurricane Angel Saki ( talk) 09:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
On November 23, 2008 the European tabloid, "News of the World", reported that Gordon Ramsey has been having an affair. Since it's a well-known tabloid that's known for it's outrageous and ridiculous sex scandal stories, anything it reports should be taken with a grain of salt. On November 22, 2008 the wiki entry for Gordon Ramsey was edited, and someone added an entry mentioning his affair in the News of the World magazine a whole day before the story broke, which leads me to believe that an employee of the magazine added it prematurely, to coincide with the tabloid's release. Pretty shady if you ask me, to try to ruin someone's life like that. Ubergeek14 ( talk) 02:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
With Clay Aiken, his sexual orientation was confirmed after his official People interview/story. Only then was his LGBT status added to his Wiki article. Same deal with Ramsay's affair. Per WP:BLP we can only reproduce the story on Wiki if it's been officially confirmed; right now they're only allegations at best. -- Madchester ( talk) 00:17, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Is it our patch to note this, or the Sarah Symonds affair accusations? It seems to meet our criteria for notability. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 17:48, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons — whether the material is negative, positive, or just questionable — should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion, from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space.
- Biographies of living persons must be written conservatively, with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid paper; it is not our job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives. The possibility of harm to living subjects is one of the important factors to be considered when exercising editorial judgment.
As NotW is the only source, it is a tabloid with a poor track record and numerous libel rulings against them (see their wiki page). That automatically makes everything they say non reliable. Other news agencies dragging up their article does not make them more reliable, it just makes the other paper lazy. As discussed already on this talk page, unless another more reliable paper comes out with its own proof, not just spewing out what notw says without doing any fact checking there are no reliable sources for this and the blp issue remains. Knowledgeum : Talk 19:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Knowledgeum requested my participation in this discussion. Having read this thread, the previous one, and the discussions linked in them, I find myself in agreement with the editors suggesting that the material be omitted. My reasons are as follows:
I hope this was helpful. Sarcasticidealist ( talk) 21:50, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Quick thoughts: If Symonds is 'notable', then why doesn't she have an article about her? 'the initial accusations were made by her and reported by NotW'? Isn't it *slightly* possible that NotW paid her to make those accusations, so they could then 'report' them? (though newspapers do sometimes make accusations themselves) That seems to be a typical MO of tabloids.
I also contend that 'picking up by other sources' in no way 'ensures further vetting' of a story; we have no guarantee that any of the other sources actually did any fact checking at all (regardless of them being RS's). Really, what most of them are saying is "we heard this story and its sensational, so we want to repeat it and add our own comments"; none of the repeat stories I've seen have mentioned anything about verification work (ie: "we talked to X and they corroborated fact Y"). Fact checking/reliability inherent in reliable sources (usually on their own material) doesn't magically 'transfer' when they repeat someone else's story. This is still all just gossip and rumors so far.
DP76764 (
Talk) 01:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
- In late November 2008, British tabloid News of the World published a news story wherein Sarah Symonds, author of the book Having An Affair? A Handbook For The Other Woman claimed to have been involved in a secret affair with Ramsay for a period of seven to ten years. [1] [2]. Symonds further notes that there were at least two others Ramsay had been involved with, as well. Amidst the allegations, the family put off a holiday vacation in Mauritius [3], and Ramsay, initially ignoring the allegations, denied them on a BBC television cooking program, Good Food Show. [4] [5] An Australian woman has also made similar claims, while Ramsay denies even knowing the woman. [6] [7] [8] [9]
- The Daily Telegraph points out that the chef's Gordon Ramsay Holdings restaurant empire (whose business partner is his father-in-law Christopher Hutcheson [10]) could be damaged by the allegations. Richard Harden, co-publisher of the Harden's Restaurant Guide, speaking to the Evening Standard, concurs. "It must damage the package". [11], though publicist Max Clifford disagrees, noting that while the allegations might cause "a lot of aggravation" at home, it wouldn't impact his image and popularity "at all". [12]
Section looks alright, now that Ramsay has made an official statement regarding the allegations. -- Madchester ( talk) 02:29, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Could someone update the page about Marcus Wareing and the Berkeley? Marcus is not working for Ramsay anymore and the Restaurant is leased directly to Marcus Wareing as far as I know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.74.99.93 ( talk) 04:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
In an episode of Hell's Kitchen (I believe last season but it might have been earlier), Ramsay was heard to claim (while lambasting a contestant) that he has knowledge of 3000 recipes. It's an interesting bit of information that would be worth adding. If anyone can cite the episode, that would be good, or if it's been mentioned in an article or a book. 23skidoo ( talk) 19:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
It was season four, I believe episode 1. He lambasted the guys for not knowing the menu by heart, and said that he has 3000 recipes between his ears. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.76.102.37 ( talk) 21:40, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning that he has lied in interviews regarding his football "career", particularily regarding playing for Glasgow Rangers? ROxBo ( talk) 03:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
As an add-on, I think we need to deal with the recent NOTW football allegations the same way as the tabloid's infidelity allegations per WP:BLP. If it were to be expanded any further, it needs some response from Ramsay and/or further reporting from more credible sources. -- Madchester ( talk) 22:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
It's been reported ( http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1160312/Struggling-Ramsay-sells-flagship-Hollywood-restaurant.html) that GR has sold his West Hollywood establishment and that others are being closed. Apart from removing restaurants that GR/GR Holdings does not own anymore, would it be interesting to have a section on this topic ? Possibly also a note on the closed restaurants (Petrus etc). Bigmouth strikes ( talk) 15:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
This is admittedly a minor point but, since it is an article subject to WP:BLP, I feel the need to bring it up. I'm not quite sure how reliable this reference is when reporting on Ramsay's shoe size. Contactmusic.com's Wikipedia article claims that the company now has "12 fulltime staff" which strikes me as an awfully low number of people to ensure proper fact-checking and accuracy as per the requirements of WP:RS. Some evidence of RS short-commings may lie in the fact that the above article contains some quotation marks that are positioned in an ortographically unorthodox way and which are less likely to be found in most reliable publications. The claim of "requiring" custom-built shoes seems somewhat exaggerated for someone who wears size 15 shoes. I have a size 16 foot and have only minor problems when trying to find proper shoes even though I have to buy them on a "middle-class" salary rather than with a budget from a net worth in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Would anyone object to the shoe size quip being removed if more solid references cannot be located to back up the claim? Big Bird ( talk • contribs) 19:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
page shows two different years of birth. which is correct? Torpanna ( talk) 04:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Ramsay's Expression In The Photo Does Not Represent Him As Well As Him Angry, That Is How Most People See Him And Would Be More Relevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bvernon199 ( talk • contribs) 02:10, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I have tried, and failed, to add an external link to the Gordon Ramsay page to a website http://www.garydoesgordon.com which aims to replicate all the dishes from Gordon's 3 star chef cookbook. I feel this is a worthy addition to the article in much the same way as similar links have already been placed under the 'French Laundry' and 'Thomas Keller' articles. Such websites showcase the food that the respective chef's have built their reputations on and in my opinion is a worthy addition to an already comprehensive article.
Any thoughts? -- Geebster ( talk) 12:40, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
It's link spam and advertising. Thanks for bringing those other pages to my attention, I've removed those as well. Thedarxide ( talk) 12:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed something in the introductory paragraph that says that Gordon Ramsay is 4th in the World in terms of Michelin Stars, behind Bobby Flay. Last time I checked, Bobby Flay doesn't have any Michelin Stars, so this is probably very wrong (unless he's raked up more than sixteen in the past two years.) I'm not sure where he's ranked nor who "Bobby Flay" really should be, so I've not edited it, could someone look into this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.0.182 ( talk) 06:50, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Should we take off the OBE. I mean, that a current practice for Wikipedia articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.52.200 ( talk) 00:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Did he actually hire that inmate later? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.176.244.232 ( talk) 10:45, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
"Frozen 'ready meal' controversy" section has a repeated quote. 68.56.16.211 ( talk) 15:29, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}}
there is now a fourth 3 michelin starred restaurant in the UK, Alain Ducasse at the Dorchester in London.
86.46.25.111 ( talk) 00:37, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
This article states that the ejection caused A.A. Gill to write the "second-rate human being"-bit. The wikipedia article on A.A. Gill says that the "second-rate human being"-bit had been written before, and was the reason for the ejection. Which is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.202.12.243 ( talk) 10:59, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
In this section it is stated
This was principally added with this edit. The first establishment was amended from "Roxbury House Hotel" to "Wroxton House Hotel" with this edit, which I believe to be correct: Wroxton, where the Wroxton House Hotel is located, is quite near Banbury. I'd like the second one to be checked as well: I believe that it should be Wykham Arms, which is situated at Sibford Gower, also near Banbury. In the Banbury area, "Wykham" is pronounced "wickem". -- Redrose64 ( talk) 19:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Readers of GQ voted Ramsay "Prick of the year" in 2008 [5]. Wikipedia covers all points of view in life, and this is backed up with a source. It represents (some of the) public opinion on Mr. Ramsay. It's not a "joke" as one editor claimed, it is an award like any other the public vote for. 92.20.63.131 ( talk) 22:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Should we add a section about him having taken plastic surgery? http://www.cosmeticsurgerytoday.co.uk/news_article/view/10564/gordon-ramsay-admits-to-having-plastic-surgery/ . I've heard it from "people" and from this link, I bet there are more, so I guess its true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.16.229.23 ( talk) 17:09, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Please verify the source of the 69% stake holding and the Value of the company. There is no mention of said amounts in the source provided. Please remove if no source found — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.132.83.143 ( talk) 22:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Before this becomes the umpteenth edit conflict on this topic, please review sections 2-5 of the talk page. Per WP:BLP, we write conservatively about a living subject. Ramsay has never made a definitive statement of his nationality; his website bio skirts around any preferences by stating " Scottish by birth, Gordon was brought up in Stratford-upon-Avon, England, from the age of five." The current lead sentence was created as a compromise for the endless Scottish/English/British debates. Ramsay presents himself without any defined nationality; for us to label him as X/Y/Z would be in vio of WP:BLP, if not WP:SYN. Thanks. -- Madchester ( talk) 23:29, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
So, why not just say he is a `British` chef-unless there has been some huge shakeup that i, a Scot havnt noticed, Scotland is still part of Britain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.101.113 ( talk) 00:36, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
I've stayed at the Hilton Old Town in Prague five times in the past three years, and there is not a Gordon Ramsay restaurant on the premises. Curt1222 ( talk) 15:25, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Please keep punctuation marks inside quotation marks, it is rather unprofessional otherwise and distracts from proper reading.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.201.157 ( talk • contribs)
Gordon Ramsay never called Tracy Grimshaw a lesbian, even she herself has admitted that. He didn't even call her a pig, he insinuated it and a member from the audience yelled out her name where he went, "Oh don't shout that out." Please somebody fix it. Here's the entire video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOs-p6Pd5fs — Preceding
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I removed the legal proceedings subsection headers on the grounds that the proposed subsections are single paragraphs and still fairly easy to understand. Any thoughts? Hasteur ( talk) 17:02, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Do we have a cite supporting his cooking style as "French/Italian/British~? I'm pretty sure this sounds a bit too generalising. -- OfTheGreen ( talk) 21:04, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
I am curious to know why there is no mention of his half sister, Sharon Donnachie (who has a son and daughter) who he first met a few years back. I used to live in the same close as her, and TBH, you couldn't mistake some sort of family resemblance. (The way I did till after I found out...d'oh) 2.125.67.39 ( talk) 10:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)Lance Tyrell
The link is to the oil giant — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.30.109.160 ( talk) 07:15, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Is the Powerscourt restaurant missing from this section or I overlooked it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.178.168.100 ( talk) 09:31, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
This seems like a strange choice of description, when 'British' is available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.243.155 ( talk) 10:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Can we remain mindful of WP:BLPSOURCES; we cannot use tabloid sources on articles on living people. Do not add or restore such sources to this article, please. -- John ( talk) 08:28, 30 May 2013 (UTC)